Who is going to continue to wear a mask after 21st June?

[mike80]

PartsMonkey said:

B) I'm driving a customers car. I don't know about you but most of my customers would prefer it if their car didn't have a coating of Covid on it.

If you've got Covid, why are you driving other peoples cars at all?

[Mark Benson]

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Colonel Cupcake said:

None of those are required to wear masks. Yes, not even surgeons.

Plus, they are worn for a different reason than what everyone is ordered to wear them in Tescos for. Akin to being ordered to wear shin pads to prevent injuries from falling masonary.

I might be missing something here.

Surgeons wear them to reduce the risk of infecting others (primarily their patients). That's the same reason why people in Tesco's have to wear them, isn't it?

Masks are worn in theatre to prevent bacterial, not viral infections being passed from clinician to patient.

There seems to be a lot of research that suggests they can reduce the spread of viral infections......

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask#re...

....but that's not why they're worn in theatre.

[ShoooRn]

I'll only wear a mask after the 21st if requested by law in a supermarket or in the workplace for example.

I see around 50% of the walkers that pass my house in a face covering of some sort - most could be on their way to the shops but it's unlikely so I think that answers your question.

I imagine 30% of people will wear a mask even if not advised to do so.

[Countdown]

Mark Benson said:

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Colonel Cupcake said:

None of those are required to wear masks. Yes, not even surgeons.

Plus, they are worn for a different reason than what everyone is ordered to wear them in Tescos for. Akin to being ordered to wear shin pads to prevent injuries from falling masonary.

I might be missing something here.

Surgeons wear them to reduce the risk of infecting others (primarily their patients). That's the same reason why people in Tesco's have to wear them, isn't it?

Masks are worn in theatre to prevent bacterial, not viral infections being passed from clinician to patient.

There seems to be a lot of research that suggests they can reduce the spread of viral infections......

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask#re...

....but that's not why they're worn in theatre.

They're there to stop infections. previously it was assumed that they didn't prevent the transmission of viral infections. However research now suggests that they may well have an impact.

Hypothetically if the masks worn by surgeons didn't stop ANY infection apart from COVID19 then I think they'd be expected to wear them, so i think it's a bit of an odd argument against mask wearing to state that Surgeons don't wear them for virus protection.

[Mark Benson]

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Mark Benson said:

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Mark Benson said:

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Colonel Cupcake said:

None of those are required to wear masks. Yes, not even surgeons.

Plus, they are worn for a different reason than what everyone is ordered to wear them in Tescos for. Akin to being ordered to wear shin pads to prevent injuries from falling masonary.

I might be missing something here.

Surgeons wear them to reduce the risk of infecting others (primarily their patients). That's the same reason why people in Tesco's have to wear them, isn't it?

Masks are worn in theatre to prevent bacterial, not viral infections being passed from clinician to patient.

There seems to be a lot of research that suggests they can reduce the spread of viral infections......

https://www.healthline.com/health/cold-flu/mask#re...

....but that's not why they're worn in theatre.

They're there to stop infections. previously it was assumed that they didn't prevent the transmission of viral infections. However research now suggests that they may well have an impact.

Hypothetically if the masks worn by surgeons didn't stop ANY infection apart from COVID19 then I think they'd be expected to wear them, so i think it's a bit of an odd argument against mask wearing to state that Surgeons don't wear them for virus protection.

I'm not going to argue hypotheticals ad nauseum with you, you're one of the most tiresome individuals on this site.

Surgeons don't wear masks in theatre to prevent viral infection, they wear them to stop bacterial infection and foreign bodies being deposited where they shouldn't be.

[Countdown]

Mark Benson said:

I'm not going to argue hypotheticals ad nauseum with you, you're one of the most tiresome individuals on this site.

Suits me.

[BoRED S2upid]

I very much doubt government restrictions will cease. If there’s covid there will be restrictions, guidelines, laws.

As for a face mask of covid cases disappear then no I won’t wear one why would you if it doesn’t exist.

If it’s still circulating then I would probably wear one in the supermarket as that’s the only place I can’t keep a meter away from people. Cafe, pub, restaurant I’m sat at a table or outside so it’s easy to keep my distance.

[GSE]

Masks, hate the fking things.

They are uncomfortable; I can’t breathe properly and my glasses steam up when wearing one. And before any clever dick pipes up on how unfit I must be, you’re wrong; I exercise regularly, and am very fit.

They are inhumane; they prevent communication by covering up half of your face and preventing the exchange of a smile (or a glare) between people.

They are ineffective; how comes I can still smell perfume or BO when I’m wearing one? I’ll wear one when I’m sanding down areas of paint or working in a dusty environment, but wearing one in a Pub or Restaurant, no.

They are nothing more than a placebo forced upon us by the Government to suit their agenda and scare us into submission.

Pan Pan Pan said:

The idea of going to the shops but not being allowed in, because I forgot to take a mask with me, would be a pain in the derriere, having seen quite a few `NO mask NO entry' signs knocking about in the shops.

Since the hated mask law was introduced, I switched to online ordering and home delivery, and can count the number of times that I’ve gone into a shop wearing one on one hand. I would love to return, but any business that insists on mask wearing after the law is rescinded (if it is rescinded..) won’t get my custom, and it’s as simple as that.

No doubt the Maskateers and Shouty Karens on Facebook will demand mandatory mask wearing for ever more. May be they will be happy living in a faceless society, where they will never see the smile of a pretty woman (or man) again, I won’t be.

When this is all over, I do hope that Publicans, Restauranteurs, and Live Event Venues will come up with a list of people that will face a lifetime ban on visiting their premises, for spreading contagious lies and decimating their businesses: At the top of the list, Boris Johnson, Neil Ferguson, Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty ….

[Countdown]

GSE said:

They are nothing more than a placebo forced upon us by the Government to suit their agenda and scare us into submission.

What's their agenda?

[anonymous-user]

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They are nothing more than a placebo forced upon us by the Government to suit their agenda and scare us into submission.

What's their agenda?

Control

[Jinx]

Countdown said:

What's their agenda?

A visible reminder that these are not normal times and therefore need to adjust our behaviour. HTH

[GSE]

Countdown said:

What's their agenda?

Arse covering. In fact, face masks would probably be more effective in this role.

[mike80]

Countdown said:

What's their agenda?

Arse covering. Overreacting to the initial pandemic, and then carrying on digging for months. Now it's far too late to hold up their hands and say "we got this a bit wrong", so stringing it out for as long as possible to make it look like they saved us.

[andyeds1234]

purplepenguin said:

Control

Control of what?

[Douglas Quaid]

Countdown said:

GSE said:

They are nothing more than a placebo forced upon us by the Government to suit their agenda and scare us into submission.

What's their agenda?

They overreacted and are trying to sell their screwup as a success. For some people keeping this going makes them a lot of money. Part of keeping it going for as long as possible is making people wear masks that they know do nothing to keep the fear going. It’s got to a point where loads of nutcases wear them alone while walking down the street now. Pretty sure they didn’t do that to stop catching a cold before now. Very sad to see. It has screwed a lot of people mentally.

[vaud]

GSE said:

They are ineffective; how comes I can still smell perfume or BO when I’m wearing one?

Masks are there to reduce droplet transmission within which a viral load is carried. Masks are able to reduce some of that transmission as the larger droplets are partly contained by someone who is infected, etc

BO and perfume are a vapour/gasses for which you would need something else.

[blade runner]

Countdown said:

What's their agenda?

The initial agenda I'm fairly sure was that masks were just the next thing on the list of interventions to roll out when all the things above had made sod all difference. That and the, frankly stupid, notion that mandating masks in shops would suddenly make people feel safer shopping to help prop up retail re-opening last summer. Since then they have become a very useful tool for showing population-wide compliance with government mandates. As others have said, masks are all about control and nothing to do with preventing spread.

[JagLover]

GSE said:

When this is all over, I do hope that Publicans, Restauranteurs, and Live Event Venues will come up with a list of people that will face a lifetime ban on visiting their premises, for spreading contagious lies and decimating their businesses: At the top of the list, Boris Johnson, Neil Ferguson, Matt Hancock, Chris Whitty ….

Don't forget Gove

[JagLover]

anonymous said:

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Piers Morgan probably deserves something a bit stronger than a lifetime ban.

[Funk]

greygoose said:

Over over under steer said:

Some odd people here seemingly virtuously stating they have never wore one - odd.

I’ll stop when I’m told to stop for sure, but I’ve understood the reasons and the benefits of wearing one. Older people and immunocompromised should consider continuing to wear them in busy areas, but completely optional.

They see themselves as heroes who are sticking it to the government, whereas they are more like Boris boasting about shaking hands with all and sundry before he was carted off to hospital.

They just mark themselves out as 'That Type'; I guess they feel they're winning some sort of victory. Combinations of distancing, mask-wearing and improved hygiene are also responsible for the fact that there's been almost no reported cases of flu for months: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-case...

So to all those saying, 'Flu kills 'x' per year though...' when trying to downplay Covid - it shows that with some consideration for others it's possible to pretty much entirely prevent THOSE deaths too:

"According to Christina Pagel, a professor of operational research at University College London: “There’s been no flu season anywhere in the world this year, including the UK,” she told The Independent. “Flu is one of the big reasons that the NHS struggles every winter. But what I think is really interesting is that people say we live with flu deaths every year and kind of assumed they were unavoidable. Yet clearly they’re not. “If we wanted to, we’ve shown we can reduce flu deaths to pretty much zero. I don’t think that the damage we have done through lockdown is anything that anyone would support to prevent flu, but it does bring into question the idea of whether there is anything that we can do.”

Aside from actual deaths from flu, how many hours of productivity are lost due to people being off sick with flu each year? I would have no issue with maintaining hand sanitising stations in public places along with the general courtesy of mask-wearing if someone thinks they may be coming down with something rather than coughing and spluttering their germs over everyone else. This sort of courtesy has been commonplace in the Far East for some time.

Edited by Funk on Friday 5th March 14:05