2.6m spent on making a press room

2.6m spent on making a press room

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1,453 posts

155 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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In the scheme of things, having such a facility isn't a bad idea.

Expect an annual cost to keep all the kit up to date.

Vanden Saab

14,152 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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JagLover said:
Bradgate said:
My understanding is that the government has basically constructed a brand new HD broadcast studio in a 300 year old listed building at a cost of £2.6m. Whether that was a good use of taxpayers money is debatable, but If you’re going to build it, that’s what it costs.
and if they hadn't spent it no doubt the same media moaning about it would be moaning they weren't being properly briefed or something.
If you think that you misunderstand. Previously a small group of the media had exclusive access to press briefings due to space limitations which didn't really matter when the output of the media was measured in hours if not days. With our modern instant news this put smaller outlets at a severe disadvantage. The new press briefing room is big enough to allow all of the media access to and instant transmission of .Gov information as it happens.
The BBC and others are only upset as their privileged access has been removed hence the faux outrage and equating it to the NHS etc.

menousername

2,109 posts

143 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Quite a chunk of the press ask their questions online / Zoom etc. Why not just conduct them via Zoom.

I guess politicians can get caught up in the self-aggrandisement. Just look at the entrance body language. All urgent and important - Churchill fresh from the war office.

TheRainMaker

6,348 posts

243 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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menousername said:
Quite a chunk of the press ask their questions online / Zoom etc. Why not just conduct them via Zoom.
Because you don’t get to network like you would in the real world.

Online platforms will have been built in for sure and are not going anywhere, but I bet a lot of people would rather be there.

devnull

3,754 posts

158 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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I’m just loving all the tech clueless people on this thread gasping at the costs. £33k doesn’t buy you very much. If someone said it was for 10 SFP modules to upgrade a network switch, I wouldn’t be remotely surprised.

hairykrishna

13,185 posts

204 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Hard to get too angry about this in the context of other sums that this government has pissed up the wall. Basically building a modern streaming video studio, in a listed building, in central London so 2.6m isn't that surprising. It'll probably turn out the contracts been given to a firm founded last week by someone in Boris's mums bridge club or something though.

I did lol at the 200 quid commercial grade router comment. It's hard to tell satire from 'thick as mince' sometimes on PH.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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dvs_dave said:
Pappyjohn said:
33 grand on broadband equipment.
FFS....clearly you have no idea how much commercial grade network gear costs. 33 grand is literally fk all.
Can you break it down? (Excluding any equipment that would already be present in Downing Street).

dvs_dave

8,646 posts

226 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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hyphen said:
dvs_dave said:
Pappyjohn said:
33 grand on broadband equipment.
FFS....clearly you have no idea how much commercial grade network gear costs. 33 grand is literally fk all.
Can you break it down? (Excluding any equipment that would already be present in Downing Street).
No I can’t as I don’t know the specifics of the setup. But instead of Sealioning, perhaps you should put in a FOI request and then you can see the specifics for yourself.

I just know from experience that it’s chump change for a highly secure full HD (likely actually 4k) live streaming commercial grade setup with appropriate fail overs, and guaranteed bandwidth throughput provisions.

If your frame of reference is domestic and/or small office grade equipment, then it’s absolutely nothing like that. It’s much more powerful, durable, secure and resilient, hence the surprising price to the uninitiated.




Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 8th March 00:45

OzzyR1

5,735 posts

233 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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As others have said above, £2.6m is pocket change in Govt spending terms. I would guess that half of that was the cost for design/consultant fees, 20% of it VAT etc.

More interested in why the track and trace system has been given more funding to the tune of £15billion in last weeks budget, total cost now estimated at over £37billion.

That is a staggering amount of cash for something that appears, on the face of it, to be a lame duck.

Would love to know how that cost is broken down and the parties involved.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/test-an...




johnboy1975

8,410 posts

109 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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OzzyR1 said:
As others have said above, £2.6m is pocket change in Govt spending terms. I would guess that half of that was the cost for design/consultant fees, 20% of it VAT etc.

More interested in why the track and trace system has been given more funding to the tune of £15billion in last weeks budget, total cost now estimated at over £37billion.

That is a staggering amount of cash for something that appears, on the face of it, to be a lame duck.

Would love to know how that cost is broken down and the parties involved.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/test-an...
Is the 37b is for T&T, or the whole umbrella of Test Track and Trace?
If T&T - it must be wages mainly? Plus office costs etc? (But 20,000 people @ 25k a year is only 500m........confused)

But yeah, be nice to see the profits (if any) and where they go

Now the vunerable are jabbed, I fail to see the point of Track and Trace. How long are we going to isolate a whole family (plus all their close contacts) for an asymptomatic case picked up at school? (About 10 days........boom, tish smile )And why? A simple "you've got it - congratulations, you don't need a jab now, best not see your nan for a week (even though she's been vaccinated)" would suffice, surely?

Maybe there's a case for a slimmed down "mutant variant" hit squad. But tracking and isolating
everyone.......I dont get it?

mike74

3,687 posts

133 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Given this governments proven ability to :-

a.) Waste money entirely through wanton profligacy.

and

b.) Siphon off huge sums to their chums in highly dubious unaccountable procurement contracts.


I actually agree that a £2.6m spend on this actually seems quite modest, restrained and prudent.

dvs_dave

8,646 posts

226 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Vanden Saab said:
If you think that you misunderstand. Previously a small group of the media had exclusive access to press briefings due to space limitations which didn't really matter when the output of the media was measured in hours if not days. With our modern instant news this put smaller outlets at a severe disadvantage. The new press briefing room is big enough to allow all of the media access to and instant transmission of .Gov information as it happens.
The BBC and others are only upset as their privileged access has been removed hence the faux outrage and equating it to the NHS etc.
This ^^^^^

Petulant rabble rousing.....that’s all

TheRainMaker

6,348 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Quality bit of work there rofl



Lotobear

6,379 posts

129 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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bhstewie said:
If you mean the Downing Street flat I believe those are coming from Conservative funds.

There was even talk of some sort of charity being setup to cover the costs.

I'm not making up that second point either.

A charity to pay for Johnson's wallpaper.
Whereas Labour always preferred tax payer funded wallpaper, and Puginese no less:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/feb/12/l...

Eric Mc

122,077 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Apparently they are using a Russian company too smile

Al Gorithum

3,742 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Apparently they are using a Russian company too smile
Correct. What could possibly go wrong eh?

It's not as if the Conservative Party accepted money from Russians, or that a Russian paid to have a game of tennis with Boris etc....

KTMsm

26,911 posts

264 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Getragdogleg said:
That money hasn't vanished you know.

Its gone to suppliers, workers wages and transport and has been subject to taxation and vat and is in the "economy" the same "economy" everyone seems to be bleating on about recently.

Money does cock all good hoarded away under some dragon you know.
It's more that they've spent 2.6M on a £100k (being generous) job !


vikingaero

10,394 posts

170 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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menousername said:
Quite a chunk of the press ask their questions online / Zoom etc. Why not just conduct them via Zoom.

I guess politicians can get caught up in the self-aggrandisement. Just look at the entrance body language. All urgent and important - Churchill fresh from the war office.
The politicians aren't always the problem. Have you seen the self importance of journalists who have lifestyled themselves to become "broadcasters"?

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Al Gorithum said:
Eric Mc said:
Apparently they are using a Russian company too smile
Correct. What could possibly go wrong eh?

It's not as if the Conservative Party accepted money from Russians, or that a Russian paid to have a game of tennis with Boris etc....
Cameras and microphones installed in Downing Street by a Russian company with links to the Kremlin rofl

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9364625/F...

55palfers

5,914 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Can you imagine The Kremlin using a non Russian company?

Someone needs to be sacked. I am sure we have a suitable firm in the UK. Maybe use the BBC?