2.6m spent on making a press room

2.6m spent on making a press room

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JeffreyD

6,155 posts

40 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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dai1983 said:
Imagine coating those flags in spermacide cost a fair bit.
That raised a lol from me.


Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Pegscratch said:
Vanden Saab said:
Am I missing something here, this is the new press room where the UK gov. announce things not a top secret MI5 briefing room. What possible benefit would there be for the Russians to bug it... scratchchin
laugh

Don't scrunch his tin foil hat.
I assume your knowledge of IT/IP technology stopped around 25 years ago. As I assume you are unaware than the Americans abandoned their Russian constructed embassy in Moscow 1980s as it was infested with bugs, even after the Americans spent considerable effort debugging it. The room is within Downing Street; therefore it is within range of all the common short range RF comm protocols, WiFi, Bluetooth etc. I assume you are quite ok with any RF data which is detectable in that briefing room, just being sent straight over the internet back to Moscow.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

108 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Iminquarantine said:
I assume your knowledge of IT/IP technology stopped around 25 years ago. As I assume you are unaware than the Americans abandoned their Russian constructed embassy in Moscow 1980s as it was infested with bugs, even after the Americans spent considerable effort debugging it. The room is within Downing Street; therefore it is within range of all the common short range RF comm protocols, WiFi, Bluetooth etc. I assume you are quite ok with any RF data which is detectable in that briefing room, just being sent straight over the internet back to Moscow.
You assume wrong. Given your assertions in this thread thus far, I'd recommend you abandon working in IT if you do. Technology (and more specifically the commoditisation of) has changed vastly since the 1980s, but you know that already if you can put your own underwear on.

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Pegscratch said:
You assume wrong. Given your assertions in this thread thus far, I'd recommend you abandon working in IT if you do. Technology (and more specifically the commoditisation of) has changed vastly since the 1980s, but you know that already if you can put your own underwear on.
Oh, so sorry I didn't realise you were still working on your helpdesk sorting MS Teams issues.

The 2018 rice grain size Chinese spy chip is still ongoing as reported here:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_...

You may or may not believe this, it is not proven. However a supply chain attack of IT hardware is rated as quite plausible. Here the NSA is also reported as doing their own IT supply chain attacks. https://www.theregister.com/2015/03/18/want_to_dod...

But of course, nothing to worry about here. We will just flash it before we use it.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

108 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Lots of unsubstantiated garbage around Supermicro that rightly disappeared into the abyss because while UEFI-level exploitation is possible on system boards, the concept of this one man's "spy chip" undermines the very principles of network technologies in order to function.

As for compromised Cisco gear, yeah, maybe - at a real push. In any event Cisco are ultimately the keepers of what is and isn't possible on that hardware platform and any modification in code would be incredibly obvious (if a little more challenging to remove).

Of course this all ignores (at your convenience) that the company in question is as much British as Lotus - basically in all but ownership.

In other words, you're talking st.

Wills2

22,849 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Well they certainly ran out of budget for the chairs/carpets and the raised plinth, couldn't even stretch to a Dyson or be bothered to move the Henry out of the way, at least he's smiling.

Could that blue clash anymore with the wood panelling?




Getragdogleg

8,769 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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I'd use foreign companies for this sort of work so they could bug my Press room, then I could find the bugs and have a better idea how to avoid my Top secret briefing rooms being compromised.


Mr Pointy

11,228 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Getragdogleg said:
I'd use foreign companies for this sort of work so they could bug my Press room, then I could find the bugs and have a better idea how to avoid my Top secret briefing rooms being compromised.
The design of the bug in the Great Seal mounted in the US ambassador's residence was genius:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_%28listeni...

It was passive, powered by a beam of microwave radiation from outside & sat in the office for seven years before being accidentally discovered.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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johnboy1975 said:
Is the 37b is for T&T, or the whole umbrella of Test Track and Trace?
If T&T - it must be wages mainly? Plus office costs etc? (But 20,000 people @ 25k a year is only 500m........confused)
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The £37B cost was for Test Track & Trace up to April 2022, so its the budget rather than what has been spent. They have spent £22b so far and a further £7b has been approved out of that £37b 2 year budget. The minister in charge said that 80% of that budget was for the testing element, covering the test development, the lab testing, and setting-up and manning all the test stations across the country. They have done 102m tests so far although I'm not sure if that includes those undertaken in schools over the last few weeks.

The remaining 20% of that budget being the tack & trace element which includes the call centres and the development of the track & trace app..

johnboy1975

8,403 posts

108 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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The Surveyor said:
johnboy1975 said:
Is the 37b is for T&T, or the whole umbrella of Test Track and Trace?
If T&T - it must be wages mainly? Plus office costs etc? (But 20,000 people @ 25k a year is only 500m........confused)
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The £37B cost was for Test Track & Trace up to April 2022, so its the budget rather than what has been spent. They have spent £22b so far and a further £7b has been approved out of that £37b 2 year budget. The minister in charge said that 80% of that budget was for the testing element, covering the test development, the lab testing, and setting-up and manning all the test stations across the country. They have done 102m tests so far although I'm not sure if that includes those undertaken in schools over the last few weeks.

The remaining 20% of that budget being the tack & trace element which includes the call centres and the development of the track & trace app..
Thanks.

So, roughly 16b for 102m tests (PCR)

The App cost peanuts, surely? A few million at worst? (I stand by, prepared to be amazed, and not in a good way)

Plus millions of LFT at (apparently) about a fiver a pop

Any idea of any profit(s)? Guess the consultants making 7k a day need to be factored in somewhere?

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

161 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56818750

Downing Street scraps plans for White House-style press briefings