Missing Woman Sarah Everard

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Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Surprising for someone who is supposedly forensically aware and tactically trained to leave so much evidence.

TheJimi

25,010 posts

244 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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TheJimi said:
You'd have thought that an experienced cop, of all people, would have had at least a fighting chance of getting away with murder.

I mean, reading what evidence has been reported so far, it's almost as if he wanted to get caught for it.
Psycho Warren said:
Surprising for someone who is supposedly forensically aware and tactically trained to leave so much evidence.
That's a better way of saying what I was trying to say hehe

carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Twelve officers investigated over matters relating to Sarah Everard’s murderer Wayne Couzens.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-07-09/twelve-officer...


Regarding wiping his phone, wouldn't some billing information be there on the network?

He made a snuff video and had watched it later for his own pleasure?

Somewhatfoolish

4,378 posts

187 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Gareth79 said:
mick987 said:
Gareth79 said:
The kernel of truth is that perhaps he did use prostitutes, underpaid one and was threatened by eastern europeans recently, and it came to mind when concocting a story. And what does it have to do with him doing his crime? A married police officer using trafficked prostitutes run by eastern european gangs would go perfectly with the behaviour of somebody who then goes out and murders a seemingly random person.


Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:17
He claimed he was forced to kidnap her after underpaying for a prostitute, complete bullst and anybody who thinks there is a kernel of truth to that wants to have a long hard look at themselves.
You obviously didn't read my reply, but I will spend the rest of the day looking at myself if it will make you happy.
Can you post a picture so we can all look at you?

Gerradi

1,541 posts

121 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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...then have another day in front the mirror...rolleyes

MadCaptainJack

673 posts

41 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Gareth79 said:
- He wiped his phone 39 minutes before being arrested (perhaps there was some communication about his work situation etc that made him realise the game was up?)
Or he was tipped off?

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Gareth79 said:
The kernel of truth is that perhaps he did use prostitutes, underpaid one and was threatened by eastern europeans recently, and it came to mind when concocting a story. And what does it have to do with him doing his crime? A married police officer using trafficked prostitutes run by eastern european gangs would go perfectly with the behaviour of somebody who then goes out and murders a seemingly random person.


Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:17
eh what?

I think you have either lived a really closeted life, or you have no idea how many men in this country use prostitutes either sporadically or regularly.



Vasco

16,478 posts

106 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Unless I've missed something has there been any suggestion as to *why* she would have got in the car?

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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julian64 said:
eh what?

I think you have either lived a really closeted life, or you have no idea how many men in this country use prostitutes either sporadically or regularly.
1 in 8 from google.

So certainly not the "norm" for anything but a minority.

Couldnt find any decent data to see a link between using wes and being or ending up a sexual deviant, sex offender or criminal in general. I imagine there is some link but probably not significant.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Psycho Warren said:
julian64 said:
eh what?

I think you have either lived a really closeted life, or you have no idea how many men in this country use prostitutes either sporadically or regularly.
1 in 8 from google.

So certainly not the "norm" for anything but a minority.

Couldnt find any decent data to see a link between using wes and being or ending up a sexual deviant, sex offender or criminal in general. I imagine there is some link but probably not significant.
Blimey....statistics eh

Who said anything about it being the norm?

but it is 1 in 8 men he is associating with having homicidal tendencies.

I suspect you and he together might be able to figure out who is wrong hehe

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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TheJimi said:
You'd have thought that an experienced cop, of all people, would have had at least a fighting chance of getting away with murder.

I mean, reading what evidence has been reported so far, it's almost as if he wanted to get caught for it.
I would not be surprised at that to be honest neither would I be surprised to find out the poor girl was not the first he had assulted


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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MadCaptainJack said:
Or he was tipped off?
This is the issue, closing ranks. Who ever tipped him off should go to jail for life, would send a very strong message, don't cover for killer cops.

Don Roque

17,998 posts

160 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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The Spruce Goose said:
This is the issue, closing ranks. Who ever tipped him off should go to jail for life, would send a very strong message, don't cover for killer cops.
Where is it confirmed as fact that he was tipped off? Both the reports I read noted that he had wiped his phone about 40 minutes before being arrested and have given no further information or comment on that point. I rather expect it is the case that he sensed the net was closing and wiped it of his own accord, as criminals often do.

carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Seems Couzens was accused of Indecent Exposure in 2015:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/09/sa...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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carinaman said:
Seems Couzens was accused of Indecent Exposure in 2015:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/09/sa...
This whole thing reeks of cover up. The modus operandi of perverted killer cops like him, follows the same as all perverted killers, they start with peeping, then flashing, then rape murder.

The thing is if he had been treated like a civilian instead of the closed ranks police, this innocent murder victim would be alive today, a hard pill to swallow by some, who would always back the police whatever they do.
People with morality should always stand up for what is right and if that means breaking ranks then so be it.

carinaman

21,325 posts

173 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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The Spruce Goose said:
This whole thing reeks of cover up. The modus operandi of perverted killer cops like him, follows the same as all perverted killers, they start with peeping, then flashing, then rape murder.

The thing is if he had been treated like a civilian instead of the closed ranks police, this innocent murder victim would be alive today, a hard pill to swallow by some, who would always back the police whatever they do.

People with morality should always stand up for what is right and if that means breaking ranks then so be it.
So there were questions about his conduct but that didn't stop him joining an 'elite' diplomatic corps. and still getting access to guns and ammunition?

It doesn't really make sense does it?

944 Man

1,744 posts

133 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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julian64 said:
eh what?

I think you have either lived a really closeted life, or you have no idea how many men in this country use prostitutes either sporadically or regularly.
Just because you do: don't judge us by your standards.

CoolHands

18,681 posts

196 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Vasco said:
Unless I've missed something has there been any suggestion as to *why* she would have got in the car?
I was thinking that - she was a young fit girl so not the easiest to attack. I think he must have got her into his car using his police badge. Perhaps he had on a police vest as well etc in order to convince her. After that he had her.

Has this been discussed? Known?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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carinaman said:
So there were questions about his conduct but that didn't stop him joining an 'elite' diplomatic corps. and still getting access to guns and ammunition?

It doesn't really make sense does it?
No what worries me is the victim and this could happen again, nothing really changes.

M4cruiser

3,654 posts

151 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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CoolHands said:
Vasco said:
Unless I've missed something has there been any suggestion as to *why* she would have got in the car?
I was thinking that - she was a young fit girl so not the easiest to attack. I think he must have got her into his car using his police badge. Perhaps he had on a police vest as well etc in order to convince her. After that he had her.

Has this been discussed? Known?
I haven't seen anything on this in today's news stories, but I remember that at the time there was a lockdown on, and she technically shouldn't have been where she was, so (again technically) as far as Sarah knew, he would have been within his rights to question her over that ... except that he wasn't actually on duty at the time.