Derek Chauvin Trial
Discussion
Well, as you have asked so nicely, I'll try.
Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
Thorodin said:
Well, as you have asked so nicely, I'll try.
Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
As seen as by your own admission, privilege is “a relative thing”, it can only be fair to judge my levels of personal privilege based upon the standards of the average citizen of the UK 1970’s-2020’s.Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
Therefore your points of clean drinking water or living in a tent are irrelevant, so please, please condescend me some more and tell me all of the ways in which I’ve enjoyed a privileged upbringing and a privileged adulthood compared to the average citizen of the UK. I’m all ears.
105.4 said:
Thorodin said:
Well, as you have asked so nicely, I'll try.
Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
As seen as by your own admission, privilege is “a relative thing”, it can only be fair to judge my levels of personal privilege based upon the standards of the average citizen of the UK 1970’s-2020’s.Privilege is a relative thing with varied applications and seen from different points of view might provoke a range of reactions. For instance, most people with a command of any language, even sign language, can understand the difference between impoverishment and riches.
To some, riches are a tent in which to sleep or running water, polluted or not, as the only thirst quencher. To them, their neighbour who drinks milk from the family goat is privileged. To others, for instance, owning a computer with which to order a takeaway or a foreign holiday might seem a basic requirement for a civilised existence.
Beginning to see why you along with the rest of us are, to an extent, privileged? Or should I condescend to you a bit more? Enough, I think! I hope that enables you to sleep safely in your particular gilded cage. HTH.
Therefore your points of clean drinking water or living in a tent are irrelevant, so please, please condescend me some more and tell me all of the ways in which I’ve enjoyed a privileged upbringing and a privileged adulthood compared to the average citizen of the UK. I’m all ears.
Touring442 said:
rscott said:
The murder charge he was convicted of did not require the jury to determine that he had intended to end Chauvin's life.
Is he dead then?
He was murdered. Though the charge used didn't require intent for a guilty verdict to be found.
I believe a post a page or so back explained the difference between UK "murder" and the USA versions.
Ian Geary said:
Touring442 said:
rscott said:
The murder charge he was convicted of did not require the jury to determine that he had intended to end Chauvin's life.
Is he dead then?He was murdered. Though the charge used didn't require intent for a guilty verdict to be found.
I believe a post a page or so back explained the difference between UK "murder" and the USA versions.
vdn said:
I think you have a chip on your shoulder. With all due respect
You are probably right, I wouldn't deny it! But then, don't we all to some extent? Sometimes a mild and curious comment can bring down a mocking storm from those with, presumably, a bigger chip. No harm done, and it's not only me who is the wiser for it!
As the other thread has disappeared:
they've put up a statue of George Floyd.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
they've put up a statue of George Floyd.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
Tonight Derek Chauvin is sentenced. Its live on Sky from 7.30pm.
The presenter was discussing sentences. If you are a first time offender the sentence is usually around 15 years. The prosecution want a much longer sentence so around 30 years. It seems Chauvin will not be remorseful as he disputes the finding and this may increase the sentence too.
The other police officers involved will no doubt be watching this with interest.
The presenter was discussing sentences. If you are a first time offender the sentence is usually around 15 years. The prosecution want a much longer sentence so around 30 years. It seems Chauvin will not be remorseful as he disputes the finding and this may increase the sentence too.
The other police officers involved will no doubt be watching this with interest.
N7GTX said:
It seems Chauvin will not be remorseful as he disputes the finding and this may increase the sentence too.
It’s already confirmed he’s appealing conviction.So if anything he says as remorse will be in open court, and can then be used as evidence at appeal/retrial.
If he stays quiet, then he can think about his new defence excuse for appeal
Ructions said:
rjfp1962 said:
So Chauvin finally speaks.... offering his condolences to the Floyd family... !
But restricts his comments further due to not being able to speak further about it due to forthcoming legal issues. No hint of remorse.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff