King Charles III era now begins!
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My own personal view is that there will be a lot of chat about how much will change once Charles becomes King, but I think it will be an anti-climax.
Things will continue, some modernisation will happen but there is a delicate balance in the constitution of the UK and of many Commonwealth countries that will not want to be upset.
Head of State is a ceremonial role that prevents a Trump like figure speaking for the nation. As much as some Commonwealth countries would like to move away from having the British Monarch as HoS it provides a useful service to them and I predict it will continue.
Things will continue, some modernisation will happen but there is a delicate balance in the constitution of the UK and of many Commonwealth countries that will not want to be upset.
Head of State is a ceremonial role that prevents a Trump like figure speaking for the nation. As much as some Commonwealth countries would like to move away from having the British Monarch as HoS it provides a useful service to them and I predict it will continue.
Randy Winkman said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Typical of the patriarchy to assume the man is in charge.
Liz wears the trousers in that house.
As a slight aside; in recent TV documentaries I've learned about the (partially successful) bid to change the family name from Windsor to Mountbatten on the basis that Mountbatten is the father's name. Partially successful as the family surname name is now Mountbatten-Windsor, although it is still the "House of Windsor". Liz wears the trousers in that house.
mr_spock said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If it's the title Duke of Edinburgh then it goes to the youngest son, so Edward will inherit that title. It'll be an upgrade for his Earldom.
According to something I heard on the Beeb, not until the Queen dies. I can't recall why.It is assumed that the most likely course of events is that the Queen dies, Charles becomes King, the third creation of the dukedom ends and a fourth creation is bestowed on Edward.
oyster said:
Aghhhh, she is not going to step down. Only 1 monarch in the last few hundred years has done that. She's fiercely committed to her role, why would you expect her to do anything other than continue to serve until her death?
She's also the oldest British monarch by well over a decade, so nobody's ever really been in her position before. There's a big difference between 81 (Victoria) and 94.FunkyNige said:
RizzoTheRat said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Canada/Australia/NZ/etc drop the monarchy when the queen steps down, which might be one reason for her wanting to keep on as long as possible.
I've been saying that for a while - having a foreign head of state as a throwback to a different time is one thing, but having a new head of state who is a foreigner doesn't really fit with the times and I think we'll see all the countries where the Queen is head of state drop the monarchy once the queen goes. Which seems fair enough, and I say that as a bit of a Royalist. Charles wants a streamlined monarchy so it wouldn't surprise me if plans are already in place.I think we'll see the Queen doing less appointments now and Charles / William taking up the slack.
Its not like we can't have a close relationship with them if they didn't.
If the Royal family want to have a hope of surviving beyond the Queen, William needs to take over when she dies. If Charles becomes king, the end will be in sight. Millions of people cannot take him seriously. Personally, I can't get past Tampongate. Other people still (rightly or wrongly) blame him 100% for his marriage failure and Diana's ultimate demise.
Randy Winkman said:
As a slight aside; in recent TV documentaries I've learned about the (partially successful) bid to change the family name from Windsor to Mountbatten on the basis that Mountbatten is the father's name. Partially successful as the family surname name is now Mountbatten-Windsor, although it is still the "House of Windsor".
still, sounds better than Battenberg - Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
labels matter
DAVEVO9 said:
bristolbaron said:
Good for her Amazing lady
bodysnatcher said:
Randy Winkman said:
As a slight aside; in recent TV documentaries I've learned about the (partially successful) bid to change the family name from Windsor to Mountbatten on the basis that Mountbatten is the father's name. Partially successful as the family surname name is now Mountbatten-Windsor, although it is still the "House of Windsor".
still, sounds better than Battenberg - Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
labels matter
Stick Legs said:
My own personal view is that there will be a lot of chat about how much will change once Charles becomes King, but I think it will be an anti-climax.
Things will continue, some modernisation will happen but there is a delicate balance in the constitution of the UK and of many Commonwealth countries that will not want to be upset.
Head of State is a ceremonial role that prevents a Trump like figure speaking for the nation. As much as some Commonwealth countries would like to move away from having the British Monarch as HoS it provides a useful service to them and I predict it will continue.
I'm not so sure.Things will continue, some modernisation will happen but there is a delicate balance in the constitution of the UK and of many Commonwealth countries that will not want to be upset.
Head of State is a ceremonial role that prevents a Trump like figure speaking for the nation. As much as some Commonwealth countries would like to move away from having the British Monarch as HoS it provides a useful service to them and I predict it will continue.
We need to remember that Elizabeth was coronated as a very young woman, in a male dominated world. As such, it seems she took the approach of remaining silent about her opinions. She's carried this onward throughout her reign.
However, Charles is very different. He's always been an activist and has sent a huge amount of letters to governments of the day so they can be "made aware" of his thoughts and views.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
If the Royal family want to have a hope of surviving beyond the Queen, William needs to take over when she dies. If Charles becomes king, the end will be in sight. Millions of people cannot take him seriously. Personally, I can't get past Tampongate. Other people still (rightly or wrongly) blame him 100% for his marriage failure and Diana's ultimate demise.
Will never happen.The royal family is all about protocol and ‘the institution’. No matter what Charles does, unless he voluntarily steps aside (which he won’t) he will be the next King.
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