Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 7)
Discussion
JagLover said:
Tories advance in working class areas and retreat in Middle class ones.
Maybe the size of the swing here was partly due to HS2. I would like to think it was also partly a reaction against lockdown but, if the polling is accurate, that is still popular.
Certainly an odd result - perhaps HMG running the country via focus groups & Yougov polls may finally get the hint that surveys do not necessarily reflect the views of the silent majority?Maybe the size of the swing here was partly due to HS2. I would like to think it was also partly a reaction against lockdown but, if the polling is accurate, that is still popular.
I work in a small business & can report that pretty much all the staff from the MD down to the junior staff are so angry at our leadership - just the type of voter that the torys think they can rely on to win a GE. When will the penny drop?
I thought this was the Boris thread. If you want to talk about Peter Fleet or the by-election then you should start a thread.
I really don’t see what this has to with Boris at all in fact.
That said I’m pretty sure all the vote counters are lib-dems and probably lied about the results.
Let’s not forget Nick Clegg said he was going to make prescriptions free if he became PM and he didn’t do either did he?
Etc..
I really don’t see what this has to with Boris at all in fact.
That said I’m pretty sure all the vote counters are lib-dems and probably lied about the results.
Let’s not forget Nick Clegg said he was going to make prescriptions free if he became PM and he didn’t do either did he?
Etc..
Light hearted article comparing Queen Nut Nut and Bozo to Grifter and Drifter.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9699981...
I said to the Mrs the other day the prize for this years grifter of the year has to go to the shotgun wedding in the backyard just to get an invite to the G7.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9699981...
I said to the Mrs the other day the prize for this years grifter of the year has to go to the shotgun wedding in the backyard just to get an invite to the G7.
robemcdonald said:
I thought this was the Boris thread. If you want to talk about Peter Fleet or the by-election then you should start a thread.
I really don’t see what this has to with Boris at all in fact.
That said I’m pretty sure all the vote counters are lib-dems and probably lied about the results.
Let’s not forget Nick Clegg said he was going to make prescriptions free if he became PM and he didn’t do either did he?
Etc..
I really don’t see what this has to with Boris at all in fact.
That said I’m pretty sure all the vote counters are lib-dems and probably lied about the results.
Let’s not forget Nick Clegg said he was going to make prescriptions free if he became PM and he didn’t do either did he?
Etc..
El stovey said:
Big swing for the libdems.
Seems odd when they’re so far behind in all the polls? Maybe one of those local issues results like HS2, as mentioned above by jag.
Given the state of the LibDems at the moment, it does sound rather like a local issue thing. They lost a long serving Tory MP, some new bloke was dropped in, and in the background there's HS2 - seems reasonable for the area to feel the Tories are not terribly bothered with them.Seems odd when they’re so far behind in all the polls? Maybe one of those local issues results like HS2, as mentioned above by jag.
That said, if the LibDems can capitalise on this, that's not a bad thing. They had faded almost into complete irrelevance, and frankly they should be able to do better than fringe groups like the Greens.
Tuna said:
El stovey said:
Big swing for the libdems.
Seems odd when they’re so far behind in all the polls? Maybe one of those local issues results like HS2, as mentioned above by jag.
Given the state of the LibDems at the moment, it does sound rather like a local issue thing. They lost a long serving Tory MP, some new bloke was dropped in, and in the background there's HS2 - seems reasonable for the area to feel the Tories are not terribly bothered with them.Seems odd when they’re so far behind in all the polls? Maybe one of those local issues results like HS2, as mentioned above by jag.
That said, if the LibDems can capitalise on this, that's not a bad thing. They had faded almost into complete irrelevance, and frankly they should be able to do better than fringe groups like the Greens.
The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I don't think calling your health secretary useless then keeping the useless health secretary in position for more than a year during the most stressful period our health service has ever faced, does much for your electoral chances or reputation.
Perhaps it was this by election Cummings was aiming at rather than PMQs and I look forward to his next salvo prior to the Batley and Spen one.
Mind you I expect the Tories to win that one because Boris appeals to the demographic there.
Perhaps it was this by election Cummings was aiming at rather than PMQs and I look forward to his next salvo prior to the Batley and Spen one.
Mind you I expect the Tories to win that one because Boris appeals to the demographic there.
robemcdonald said:
Good points; It has to be a local issue.
The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I'm sure your sarcasm has a point, but perhaps you're just labouring the joke...The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
Tuna said:
robemcdonald said:
Good points; It has to be a local issue.
The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I'm sure your sarcasm has a point, but perhaps you're just labouring the joke...The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I'm not sure why you are trying to close down my support for the government.
etc..
robemcdonald said:
Tuna said:
robemcdonald said:
Good points; It has to be a local issue.
The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I'm sure your sarcasm has a point, but perhaps you're just labouring the joke...The good people of Amersham seem to have forgotten that HS2 was actually started under the Tony Blair government and that David Cameron wanted to put a stop to it but Nick Clegg wouldn't let him.
The real story here isn't that the conservatives lost a massive majority in a seat they have held since it was invented. It's that the Labour candidate lost their deposit.
Kier Starmer has to reconsider his position after such a bad result.
etc..
I'm not sure why you are trying to close down my support for the government.
etc..
I live in the A&C constituency.
The reason for the LD win:
- Their massive leafleting campaign, they sent close to all the other parties combine
- Tactical voting....encouraged on the above leaflets
- A Remain constituency so no real like for Boris
- Local planning concerns (to house the extra population that the Lib Dems wanted under Freedom of Movement...you couldn't make it up)
- Lockdown extension/D Cummings rant
- By-election protest during a strong Conservative Government
- Very low turnout compared to normal
- A poor choice of Tory candidate
The reason for the LD win:
- Their massive leafleting campaign, they sent close to all the other parties combine
- Tactical voting....encouraged on the above leaflets
- A Remain constituency so no real like for Boris
- Local planning concerns (to house the extra population that the Lib Dems wanted under Freedom of Movement...you couldn't make it up)
- Lockdown extension/D Cummings rant
- By-election protest during a strong Conservative Government
- Very low turnout compared to normal
- A poor choice of Tory candidate
Abdul Abulbul Amir said:
I live in the A&C constituency.
The reason for the LD win:
- Their massive leafleting campaign, they sent close to all the other parties combine
- Tactical voting....encouraged on the above leaflets
- A Remain constituency so no real like for Boris
- Local planning concerns (to house the extra population that the Lib Dems wanted under Freedom of Movement...you couldn't make it up)
- Lockdown extension/D Cummings rant
- By-election protest during a strong Conservative Government
- Very low turnout compared to normal
- A poor choice of Tory candidate
AbdulThe reason for the LD win:
- Their massive leafleting campaign, they sent close to all the other parties combine
- Tactical voting....encouraged on the above leaflets
- A Remain constituency so no real like for Boris
- Local planning concerns (to house the extra population that the Lib Dems wanted under Freedom of Movement...you couldn't make it up)
- Lockdown extension/D Cummings rant
- By-election protest during a strong Conservative Government
- Very low turnout compared to normal
- A poor choice of Tory candidate
It is interesting that you put "A poor choice of Tory candidate" last. Given that the previous holder was well liked / strong personality I thought that this would be higher up the list. I'm in the next constituency "Beaconsfield" and I am now thinking that Grieves replacement is also "A poor choice of Tory candidate"
Greenmantle said:
Abdul
It is interesting that you put "A poor choice of Tory candidate" last. Given that the previous holder was well liked / strong personality I thought that this would be higher up the list. I'm in the next constituency "Beaconsfield" and I am now thinking that Grieves replacement is also "A poor choice of Tory candidate"
The previous holder wasn't particularly liked, especially when she sold up and moved to Surrey.It is interesting that you put "A poor choice of Tory candidate" last. Given that the previous holder was well liked / strong personality I thought that this would be higher up the list. I'm in the next constituency "Beaconsfield" and I am now thinking that Grieves replacement is also "A poor choice of Tory candidate"
Grieves wasn't liked either by the local party.
robemcdonald said:
I'm not sure about your unfounded accusations. I had a quick look on By-election thread (I didn't know there was one until today) and many posters are posting very similar things to me and yet remain unchallenged.
I'm not sure why you are trying to close down my support for the government.
etc..
If you want to make up other people's arguments, sure, but as I'm not even in that thread I'm not sure why you think I share any of those views?I'm not sure why you are trying to close down my support for the government.
etc..
I guess it helps if you assume that everyone who doesn't share your views are like some amorphous blob with only one political stance... saves having to think.
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