The by-election thread

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JagLover

42,445 posts

236 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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According to Guido fake campaign leaflets have been circulating in Batley showing Labour's support for BLM and "taking the knee"

I wonder who is behind that stunt scratchchin. Probably someone who realises that is a lot less popular in parts of the country than it is in London.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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JagLover said:
According to Guido fake campaign leaflets have been circulating in Batley showing Labour's support for BLM and "taking the knee"

I wonder who is behind that stunt scratchchin. Probably someone who realises that is a lot less popular in parts of the country than it is in London.
The leaflets may be fake, but Sir Kier has definitely taken the knee and expressed support for BLM.

I wonder how he feels about that now, as the leader of a major UK political party who supplicated himself to pander to people protesting about police brutality in another country.

JagLover

42,445 posts

236 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
The leaflets may be fake, but Sir Kier has definitely taken the knee and expressed support for BLM.

I wonder how he feels about that now, as the leader of a major UK political party who supplicated himself to pander to people protesting about police brutality in another country.
The message is real but the leaflets themselves are apparently fake.

Just highlighting how "dirty" this by-election seems to have become.

gazza285

9,825 posts

209 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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biggbn said:
The 3rd runway won't happen, our own prime minister has promised to lie down in front of the construction machinery shoukd work start and he never uses hyperbolic language or exaggerates now does he.... smile
Mr. Prosser:
Do you know how much damage this bulldozer would sustain if I just let it roll over you?

Arthur:
How much?

Mr. Prosser:
None at all.

irc

7,339 posts

137 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Labour and Galloway supporters tearing each others posters down now.

https://order-order.com/2021/06/28/galloway-and-le...

GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

165 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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gazza285 said:
biggbn said:
The 3rd runway won't happen, our own prime minister has promised to lie down in front of the construction machinery shoukd work start and he never uses hyperbolic language or exaggerates now does he.... smile
Mr. Prosser:
Do you know how much damage this bulldozer would sustain if I just let it roll over you?

Arthur:
How much?

Mr. Prosser:
None at all.
Didn't end well for the earth though wink

paulrockliffe

15,718 posts

228 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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JagLover said:
Northernboy said:
The leaflets may be fake, but Sir Kier has definitely taken the knee and expressed support for BLM.

I wonder how he feels about that now, as the leader of a major UK political party who supplicated himself to pander to people protesting about police brutality in another country.
The message is real but the leaflets themselves are apparently fake.

Just highlighting how "dirty" this by-election seems to have become.
There's also this, that is real:

https://order-order.com/2021/06/28/labours-own-div...

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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paulrockliffe said:
That’s terrible.

It’s as though she actually wants there to be blood on the streets.

Again.

bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Don't know the area or the history but how does a by-election get so nasty?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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bhstewie said:
Don't know the area or the history but how does a by-election get so nasty?
It's basically labour eating themselves.

The left of the party are very bitter about perceived lack of support for Corbyn when he was leader. (They have a point on one level)

Add in Galloway as a self appointed champion of the left stirring the pot and this is what you have.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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bhstewie said:
Don't know the area or the history but how does a by-election get so nasty?
Labour counts on a block-vote by the Muslim community, and a skilled agitator decides to stir up religious hatred, which the Labour candidate then tries to do too, thinking that it’ll win some votes back.

The Conservatives on the other hand seem to have kept a low profile, other than suggesting that they’ll be better able to achieve government funds for the area if they win.

Bookmakers odds have them at about 65% probability of winning.

chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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bhstewie said:
Don't know the area or the history but how does a by-election get so nasty?
I live in the area, the by election is just a snapshot of politics which has become more divisive and nasty in general.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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This is what happens when you go down the identity politics rabbit hole.

APontus

1,935 posts

36 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
Labour counts on a block-vote by the Muslim community, and a skilled agitator decides to stir up religious hatred, which the Labour candidate then tries to do too, thinking that it’ll win some votes back.

The Conservatives on the other hand seem to have kept a low profile, other than suggesting that they’ll be better able to achieve government funds for the area if they win.

Bookmakers odds have them at about 65% probability of winning.
Will be fascinating to see the result here. So many variables in play. All over a massive sthole!

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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APontus said:
Will be fascinating to see the result here. So many variables in play. All over a massive sthole!
I'm assuming without bothering to check that the COnservative is parachuted in, in which case I feel sorry for the poor sod if he has to end up living there.

Actually, that's a bit unfair, there are some pretty decent houses around;

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/103819085#/

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

93 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
I'm assuming without bothering to check that the COnservative is parachuted in, in which case I feel sorry for the poor sod if he has to end up living there.

Actually, that's a bit unfair, there are some pretty decent houses around;

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/103819085#/
Wow, money is obviously no guarantee of taste…!!!

freakybacon

551 posts

164 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
CardinalBlue said:
Labour activists ‘egged, pushed and kicked’ on Batley and Spen campaign trail

Labour activists in the Batley and Spen by-election have been pelted with eggs and kicked in the head while on the campaign trail, the region’s mayor has said.

Newly elected West Yorkshire mayor Tracy Brabin said she was leafleting with “colleagues, volunteers, campaigners” in the Whitaker Street area of Batley on Sunday when they “were followed, verbally abused and physically assaulted by a group of young men”.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tracy-brabin-la...
As above, this seems to be a response in part to Galloway’s st-stirring among the Muslim community.
Hmm, no description of the assailants? No one had a camera on their phone to catch a picture of the villains? No CCTV? Riiiiiight...


bitchstewie

51,395 posts

211 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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It's like a rogues gallery isn't it.

Laurence Fox
Jada Fransen
George Galloway
Tommy Robinson

As an outsider looking in it's just grim when you'd think there are local concerns that need addressing.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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freakybacon said:
Hmm, no description of the assailants? No one had a camera on their phone to catch a picture of the villains? No CCTV? Riiiiiight...
As I posted above, the harassment on the street does seem to be from a member of the local muslim community. I read somewhere earlier that he's well-known and something of an agitator. Give the issues being discussed, it's a bit por that this fact is left out. That's the community that galloway has been trying to get riled-up, and if members of that community are now chasing women down the street then the link maters.

It's completely possible that the attack is from a different group entirely, but it's a bit poor that no description is being given.

Vanden Saab

14,127 posts

75 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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bhstewie said:
Don't know the area or the history but how does a by-election get so nasty?
Not calling out the dog whistles on this BS? what a surprise said absolutely nobody...