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hstewie said:
hstewie said: It's like a rogues gallery isn't it.
Laurence Fox
Jada Fransen
George Galloway
Tommy Robinson
As an outsider looking in it's just grim when you'd think there are local concerns that need addressing.
If there are local issues there's sod all an MP will do for you other than write letters and appear in the paper with a Daily Mail Sad Face; chin your councillor for local issues, that's what they're for.Laurence Fox
Jada Fransen
George Galloway
Tommy Robinson
As an outsider looking in it's just grim when you'd think there are local concerns that need addressing.
Anybody else see George Galloway having a pop at the BBC/Martine Croxall earlier today?
She was interviewing him, asking why he was standing in the Batley and Spen by-election. He took offence, accusing the BBC of running a party political broadcast for labour with their coverage. He was not a happy bunny!
I'm normally quite pro-BBC, but he made a good point. Their (her) live coverage and interviews today have seemed a little biased to me, unlike the studio pieces which have been balanced.
Unsurprisingly, I can't find a link or any mention of it on the BBC website.
She was interviewing him, asking why he was standing in the Batley and Spen by-election. He took offence, accusing the BBC of running a party political broadcast for labour with their coverage. He was not a happy bunny!
I'm normally quite pro-BBC, but he made a good point. Their (her) live coverage and interviews today have seemed a little biased to me, unlike the studio pieces which have been balanced.
Unsurprisingly, I can't find a link or any mention of it on the BBC website.
Vanden Saab said:
Not calling out the dog whistles on this BS? what a surprise said absolutely nobody...
This?
Don't know if it's dog whistle as I don't know much about Modhi but it seems very odd to be focusing on him and Kashmir and Palestine in a Parliamentary election.
I'd assumed that given the tragedy of what happened with Jo Cox that Leadbetter might run a campaign that's a bit classier for lack of a better word.
The whole situation up there seems crazy.
My £0.02.
I would have thought that the most of the electorate would be interested in....
How can we attract companies to setup here and create additional jobs
Taxation/ Benefits
Healthcare
Education
Policing
etc etc
MP's campaigning on the headlines of ...
LGBTQ+ rights...
Palestine...
Kashmir ...
are so far removed that what the majority of the electorate are seeing as pressing needs for their constituency.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Vanden Saab said:
Not calling out the dog whistles on this BS? what a surprise said absolutely nobody...
This?Don't know if it's dog whistle as I don't know much about Modhi but it seems very odd to be focusing on him and Kashmir and Palestine in a Parliamentary election.
I'd assumed that given the tragedy of what happened with Jo Cox that Leadbetter might run a campaign that's a bit classier for lack of a better word.
The whole situation up there seems crazy.
Johnnytheboy said:
It vaguely concerns me that they are propagating the idea of 'sides'.
That's politics though isn't it?Loud voices drowning out others too.
Muslim women in Batley and Spen call out actions of ‘loud minority’ of men
633Squadron said:
My £0.02.
I would have thought that the most of the electorate would be interested in....
How can we attract companies to setup here and create additional jobs
Taxation/ Benefits
Healthcare
Education
Policing
etc etc
MP's campaigning on the headlines of ...
LGBTQ+ rights...
Palestine...
Kashmir ...
are so far removed that what the majority of the electorate are seeing as pressing needs for their constituency.
How dare you ?I would have thought that the most of the electorate would be interested in....
How can we attract companies to setup here and create additional jobs
Taxation/ Benefits
Healthcare
Education
Policing
etc etc
MP's campaigning on the headlines of ...
LGBTQ+ rights...
Palestine...
Kashmir ...
are so far removed that what the majority of the electorate are seeing as pressing needs for their constituency.
How dare you presume to judge what's important to the proud palestinian supporting voters of Yorkshire ?
How dare you presume to judge that people in Yorkshire are not as sophisticated as London Folk and value highly the rights of Transexual folk to take part in sports as women that they can easily win cos they were once men
How dare you presume to judge that folk in Yorkshire don't know about Led Zeppelin and one of their best pieces of work ?
How dare you try to post common sense stuff when it's clear that the folk in London are way beyond all that practiacl stuff
Labour hold Batley with majority of 323
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57691543
Looks like a continuation of the recent pattern but Labour managed to hold on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57691543
Looks like a continuation of the recent pattern but Labour managed to hold on.
Batley & Spen parliamentary by-election, result:
Lab: 35.3% (-7.4)
Con: 34.4% (-1.6)
WPGB: 21.9% (+21.9)
LDem: 3.3% (-1.3)
York: 2.2% (+2.2)
UKIP: 0.4% (+0.4)
Oth: 2.5% (+2.5)
Labour HOLD.
Source: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/141081675...
Lab: 35.3% (-7.4)
Con: 34.4% (-1.6)
WPGB: 21.9% (+21.9)
LDem: 3.3% (-1.3)
York: 2.2% (+2.2)
UKIP: 0.4% (+0.4)
Oth: 2.5% (+2.5)
Labour HOLD.
Source: https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/141081675...
One of those results everyone can claim as a win. Kier will breathe a sigh of relief that he squeaked home, Boris will be encouraged that Labour’s majority was decimated, etc.
Overall I think it reflects the current state of politics; Tories doing surprisingly well (but not as well as some might claim) and Labour losing its way (but not as unelectable as some might claim).
Overall I think it reflects the current state of politics; Tories doing surprisingly well (but not as well as some might claim) and Labour losing its way (but not as unelectable as some might claim).
I think it’s a pretty lousy result all round to be honest. Hancock has lost that one for the Tories - there was no way that victory was realistic for them post Hancock. It should have been a victory, but they buggered it up.
Gorgeous George has purrfect conditions for him to steal it from Labour and he arsed it up.
Labour won it by under 350 votes, bowing a multi thousand majority, against an incumbent govt that’s there for the poking.
And the Lib Dem’s lost more votes.
That is a lousy result all round for every major player in the game.
Gorgeous George has purrfect conditions for him to steal it from Labour and he arsed it up.
Labour won it by under 350 votes, bowing a multi thousand majority, against an incumbent govt that’s there for the poking.
And the Lib Dem’s lost more votes.
That is a lousy result all round for every major player in the game.
Turnout was low at under 50% for a Parliamentary.
Galloway got 8K votes, two thirds of both Labour and Conservative.
He does seem a classic protest party thought..a bit like ukip.
No staying power, and no prospect of ever being elected to parliament, plus there's only one of him so at a general election he can hardly be a deciding factor.
Galloway got 8K votes, two thirds of both Labour and Conservative.
He does seem a classic protest party thought..a bit like ukip.
No staying power, and no prospect of ever being elected to parliament, plus there's only one of him so at a general election he can hardly be a deciding factor.
DeejRC said:
I think it’s a pretty lousy result all round to be honest. Hancock has lost that one for the Tories - there was no way that victory was realistic for them post Hancock. It should have been a victory, but they buggered it up.
I think it was a combination of things but the feet on the ground campaigners for the Cons round there have admitted they botched their campaign up completely by making huge errors in the areas and houses they targeted. Apparently they were continuously door knocking house after house of known Labour supporters and so completely wasted their time and didn't get their message out. I also think there might have been an element of soft Cons giving support to Leadbetter following the abuse and vitriol she's had to endure on the back of Galloway's campaign.
chemistry said:
One of those results everyone can claim as a win.
Not sure the Tories can. Their vote share is down from the last election and they can hardly blame George Galloway, who will have taken a lot of votes from Labour and very few (if any) from them. Perhaps a sign the red wall is tiring of the Boris show. Seems to show that people are a bit fed up with both the conservatives and labour and looking for alternatives. Galloway got a lot more votes than all the polls predicted and took votes from both main parties.
Imagine thinking someone like Galloway or Farage is a better option
The results weren’t good (or bad) enough for anyone to be taking that much from it though.
Imagine thinking someone like Galloway or Farage is a better option
The results weren’t good (or bad) enough for anyone to be taking that much from it though.
Yeah nobody really came out of this one well, it's just a question of who did worse.
Labour held on, but only by the absolute skin of their teeth, in what should have been a relatively safe seat.
Tories lost share of vote and failed to take the sear despite huge help from Galloway.
Despite (or perhaps because of) WPGB campaign they didn't manage to keep Labour out in what's probably their best shot to cause an upset.
Mostly I'm amazed that 20+ percent of the voting electorate would cast their ballot for someone whose most memorable moment is pretending to be a cat on a reality TV show.
Labour held on, but only by the absolute skin of their teeth, in what should have been a relatively safe seat.
Tories lost share of vote and failed to take the sear despite huge help from Galloway.
Despite (or perhaps because of) WPGB campaign they didn't manage to keep Labour out in what's probably their best shot to cause an upset.
Mostly I'm amazed that 20+ percent of the voting electorate would cast their ballot for someone whose most memorable moment is pretending to be a cat on a reality TV show.
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