CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 12)

[Elysium]

We need to keep this social distancing going. Particularly when there is alcohol involved and people start to lose their inhibitions.

[dave_s13]

Tony427 said:

The govt rule by our consent. Remove consent they are fked.

Day one of my no mask odyssey.

Morrisons..... no one said a dicky bird.

Car spares emporium. No comments made although probably helped by the guy serving me wasn't masked either.

Local curry house this evening. Mrs thought she would give the unmasked approach a try.

Again, completetly no fks given. No track and trace either.

Its over, when we say its over.

For me, its over. Boris get fecked.

Yes.... this is a movement that needs to be, a movement.

Just take the bd things off folks!

[bigee]

Elysium said:

We need to keep this social distancing going. Particularly when there is alcohol involved and people start to lose their inhibitions.

Makes me sick looking at this...what a shower they truly are !

[Jaguar99]

Phil. said:

BTW it’s completely legal to decide not to wear a mask. No explanation required.

While you don’t need to give an explanation and it is illegal for people to ask about your exemption it is not legal to just decide not to wear a mask without an exemption

[Elysium]

johnboy1975 said:

Anthrax - This is not an exit


I know I'll never be free
Change doesn't come easy
And if I'll never be free
You'll live in hell with me

And

I know I'll never save myself
Dying from this immortality

And

This is not an exit
I can never change it
This is not an exit
It's no way out
It's no way out
There's no way out
It's no way out

https://youtu.be/WZigkIVQr8U

I am more in the mood for Uprising by Muse:

https://youtu.be/w8KQmps-Sog

Muse said:

The paranoia is in bloom
The PR transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs that keep us all dumbed down
And hope that we will never see the truth around
(So come on)

Another promise, another seed
Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed
And all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious
(So come on)

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die
(So come on)

Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend
(So come on)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious
(So come on)

Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious
(So come on)

Hey, hey, hey, hey

[Evolved]

Thankyou4calling said:

RemarkLima said:

I'd like to see Thankyou4calling to at least fess up that the full opening on the 21st is looking bust, which is where most were placing their bets with them on... But if it was indoor pub settings, with masks for toilets and the rule of 6, then he's dodged that'd one, but most reasonable people wouldn't see that as normal.

Are you thinking of someone else?

I didn’t offer any bets on the 21st.

Did you actually take ANY bets? I saw tons of takers.

[Red Devil]

Claptonian said:

Roman Rhodes said:

steveT350C said:

That ‘fact checking’ article states that the Dr. claims to be a former Chairman of Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada.

He never makes that claim in the interview, nor in his credentials here..

https://westernmedical.ca/employees/roger-g-hodkin...

Why are you so keen to discredit him I wonder?

I see that “fact checkers” have become the new bogeyman for the fruit loop anti-vaxxers here! Anything that exposes their gullibility must be a conspiracy.

Very nice. How about addressing the point that was made instead of the usual snide insults? You're pretty sure of yourself - shouldn't be hard for you to do.

He reminds me of a little boy who revels in poking an ants' nest with a stick. Every time people respond it just encourages him to do it more. Why give him the satisfaction?

[SCEtoAUX]

If they don't end restrictions by the end of July, they never will.

Utterly depressing and genuinely terrifying.

I simply cannot accept that the NHS can become overwhelmed if these vaccines work. If they don't work, which is implied by the fact lockdown isn't going away, then why are we vaccinating people at all?

COVID, like so many other diseases isn't going away, but living a life in fear of it is no life at all.

[gizlaroc]

The people saying we are moaning about having to wear a mask, can I ask if you have to wear it all day?

At work, 9-6pm?

It is starting to get really grim, especially as the weather is getting hotter.

[paulw123]

Elysium said:

We need to keep this social distancing going. Particularly when there is alcohol involved and people start to lose their inhibitions.

Social distancing is just for peasants

[Rollin]

gizlaroc said:

The people saying we are moaning about having to wear a mask, can I ask if you have to wear it all day?

At work, 9-6pm?

It is starting to get really grim, especially as the weather is getting hotter.

Yes. For 30 years.

[sim72]

gizlaroc said:

The people saying we are moaning about having to wear a mask, can I ask if you have to wear it all day?

At work, 9-6pm?

It is starting to get really grim, especially as the weather is getting hotter.

Yes, approx 8am-5pm, unless I am in a room on my own, or in a large room where I can SD from others, which is rare.

[Tony427]

paulw123 said:

Elysium said:

We need to keep this social distancing going. Particularly when there is alcohol involved and people start to lose their inhibitions.

Social distancing is just for peasants

This was just an example of needless global warning enacted by the Red Arrows to demonstrate to the G7 delegates why its important to reduce the carbon profile of the ordinary citizen to that of a Etheopian goat herder.

To think they are so collecitvely thick to think that these photos will enamour them to their countrymen as they sit there, in lockdown, looking forward to a very bleak winter, economy in tatters, whilst their betters enjoy the fruits of our labours on our behalf.

I'm willing to bet the PR company charged wih the task of diseminating the photos is headed up by a guy called Rupert who has a man bun and wears shoes sans socks,

Absolutely clueless.

Just goes to priove they are all, almost without exception, aholes.

Apart from Biden. He doesnt know here he is but all the women , and some of the men, smell so very delicious.

[gizlaroc]

sim72 said:

Yes, approx 8am-5pm, unless I am in a room on my own, or in a large room where I can SD from others, which is rare.

You like it and actually think it is doing something?

[sim72]

gizlaroc said:

sim72 said:

Yes, approx 8am-5pm, unless I am in a room on my own, or in a large room where I can SD from others, which is rare.

You like it and actually think it is doing something?

I don't like it (obviously!), but I don't have a choice about it.

Edit to say: though clearly when I'm in a small room with 30 others for hours on end, there is some logic to it.

[55north1west]

There a definite change in the country’s mood, our G7 “delegates “ have shown it’s one rule for them and purgatory for us.
We are now Global leaders in the new green, build back better by example race that Boris will use to cement his place in history.
And it wasn’t even his idea…..

[isaldiri]

One of the CDC slides used earlier in the week in a briefing before the next week's larger meeting on the issue



As it so happens, it's also part of the reason why I think using vaccinations to 'reduce cases' as part of the official narrative to allow us to get out of the bloody mess we've dug ourselves into is one that is extremely poorly judged. And in particular why I think EUA for below 16s use is pretty close to being a bloody poor idea. As arguably that same EUA approval for those under 30s in many respects.

Just to be very clear, I am very much in agreement with those at risk taking the vaccines and for most others to do so when it makes sense for them to be doing so. That's broadly anyone over the age of 35-40 to take the damn things. i however very much disagree with the coercive messaging about everyone vaxxing up being necessary for society to be able to continue to function and the way vaxxing ever younger age groups who are not at any major risk or in an 'emergency' state due to the virus is being used as the 'easy' way to reduce infections rather than trying harder to get the (small) number of people over 50 who refused to take the vaccines to reconsider by addressing their apprehensions. but as with many things with the outbreak, it's the easy and much more visible outcome so of course that's what the government chooses to do.

P.S and just to add. This was the MHRA in the middle of march with regards to ViTT for the AZN jabs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56397592

Issue...? what issue? just shut up and jab up. It's a little bit of a different tune being sung now.

and this was the CDC back in May re younger cases of myocarditis... time will tell if instantly downplaying the risk of adverse reactions is ultimately going to do more harm than good if it too turns out to be somewhat of a larger issue than originally accepted.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/23/cdc-...

[sim72]

isaldiri said:

One of the CDC slides used earlier in the week in a briefing before the next week's larger meeting on the issue



As it so happens, it's also part of the reason why I think using vaccinations to 'reduce cases' as part of the official narrative to allow us to get out of the bloody mess we've dug ourselves into is one that is extremely poorly judged. And in particular why I think EUA for below 16s use is pretty close to being a bloody poor idea. As arguably that same EUA approval for those under 30s in many respects.

Just to be very clear, I am very much in agreement with those at risk taking the vaccines and for most others to do so when it makes sense for them to be doing so. That's broadly anyone over the age of 35-40 to take the damn things. i however very much disagree with the coercive messaging about everyone vaxxing up being necessary for society to be able to continue to function and the way vaxxing ever younger age groups who are not at any major risk or in an 'emergency' state due to the virus is being used as the 'easy' way to reduce infections rather than trying harder to get the (small) number of people over 50 who refused to take the vaccines to reconsider by addressing their apprehensions. but as with many things with the outbreak, it's the easy and much more visible outcome so of course that's what the government chooses to do.

P.S and just to add. This was the MHRA in the middle of march with regards to ViTT for the AZN jabs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56397592

Issue...? what issue? just shut up and jab up. It's a little bit of a different tune being sung now.

and this was the CDC back in May re younger cases of myocarditis... time will tell if instantly downplaying the risk of adverse reactions is ultimately going to do more harm than good if it too turns out to be somewhat of a larger issue than originally accepted.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/23/cdc-...

200 out of 9,000,000 is 0.0022%

That's not far off the "serious" reaction rate for MMR (0.0018%, higher if you include doses given to undiagnosed immunocompromised patients) or even HPV (0.0013%)

[gizlaroc]

Express said:

Boris Johnson warning: UK faces 100,000 Covid cases every 24hours by July - new statistics

BORIS JOHNSON has been warned the UK faces 100,000 Covid cases every 24 hours by July due to the rising number of cases of the Delta variant.

100,000 cases a day by July!?


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1449130/boris-jo...

[isaldiri]

sim72 said:

200 out of 9,000,000 is 0.0022%

That's not far off the "serious" reaction rate for MMR (0.0018%, higher if you include doses given to undiagnosed immunocompromised patients) or even HPV (0.0013%)

Without knowing the background rate of those reaction rates seen in the MMR, I suppose I'm not in a position to comment about the numbers as you stated (happy to have a look at any sources).

The CDC slide is strongly suggestive of a considerable increase in risk over the 'expected' rate so unlike the MMR vaccine with long lasting benefit to the person getting it clearly shown (and quite unlike for a younger person getting a covid vaccine I might add), it's somewhat less obvious they should necessarily be jumping forward to get it in the same way as you would be happy for kids to get the MMR one.