CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 12)
Discussion
I was out at a golfing place yesterday with predominantly younger adults present - mask wearing was "token" at best whereas in my local supermarkets it's almost 100% compliance.
I think it varies massively from place to place. Anywhere where the enforcement seem lax I take full advantage.
I think it varies massively from place to place. Anywhere where the enforcement seem lax I take full advantage.
Biker 1 said:
Tomorrow is the cancelled 'Freedom Day', as described in PH, Daily Mail, Telegraph & all the others. I note many comments here & in the online comments sections of the Mail/Telegraph saying that 'the muzzle will be ditched come what may' on 21/6/2021 & that all these commentators will refuse to wear them in shops etc henceforth. I was in my local Sainsburys yesterday, & there appeared to be pretty much 100% compliance: what will be compliance tomorrow? 100%? 90%? Or less than 50%? I'm guessing its all talk & no trousers.
It’s only another 4 weeks, no biggie. Alucidnation said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
How many times do we have to point it out to certain posters that we are are not comparing what happened in 1930s Germany to now - it is an observation on history as to how these things can and in 1930s Germany did happen.
The fact that the posters either choose to ignore that difference or can’t see it, kind of proves the point as to how to can (note the word can) happen.
It doesn't matter how you try and justify it, using it as a 'reference' to what is happening currently, is quite frankly appalling.The fact that the posters either choose to ignore that difference or can’t see it, kind of proves the point as to how to can (note the word can) happen.
plasticpig said:
That's different from actually trying it. I found it pretty much impossible. I couldn't even withdraw cash out of my account without photo ID. That was 10 years ago and things are even stricter these days.
Well of course not, it’s not your money if you invest it in a bank. If you’d kept it under the mattress you’d not have needed photo ID to get at it. m_cozzy said:
Well mine was ditched a few weeks back. I will look forward to seeing some unmasked faces next week.
It will be the snivelling subservient types with testes the size of shrivelled tictacs who will be masked up still.
Why not stroll about with your giant bIt will be the snivelling subservient types with testes the size of shrivelled tictacs who will be masked up still.
ks hanging out as well?How insecure must someone be to think they can demonstrate their masculinity by not wearing a mask.
BigMon said:
I've said it before, but anyone who thinks we're living under a dictatorship or are on the road to a Nazi Germany or whatever, go and speak to someone who lives in or has relatives in Belarus, tell them about what it's like living in the UK, and see their reaction when you say this is a dictatorship.
Is a dictatorship, or, steps towards? I’ve not read everything in the thread but have only seen posters highlighting steps towards. plasticpig said:
NewBod said:
I've just enquired about the Id requirements for a few banks. You can use other means (tax notification, birth certificate, utility bill etc.). You can still open accounts without a passport or driving licence.
That's different from actually trying it. I found it pretty much impossible. I couldn't even withdraw cash out of my account without photo ID. That was 10 years ago and things are even stricter these days. BigMon said:
I've said it before, but anyone who thinks we're living under a dictatorship or are on the road to a Nazi Germany or whatever, go and speak to someone who lives in or has relatives in Belarus, tell them about what it's like living in the UK, and see their reaction when you say this is a dictatorship.
And I will repeat myself, I am not saying that we are living under a dictatorship. All I and and other posters are doing are looking back at history and understanding how it came to pass - please read the words that have been used.How is looking back at history appalling?
In that case a history or sociology exam question along the lines of “ Explain what happened in 1930s Germany led to WW2” wouldn’t be allowed. Or are we trying to re write history now?
Roman Rhodes said:
NewBod said:
I've just enquired about the Id requirements for a few banks. You can use other means (tax notification, birth certificate, utility bill etc.). You can still open accounts without a passport or driving licence.
The winter nights must fly by at your place.
I was replying to a poster with a specific point. I like to do my own research before debating something. Maybe you should do so too.
What is the relevance of your reply? Ignorance, just obeying what we are told and a lack of questioning things with critical thought is why we are in such a mess.
DT398 said:
If you choose not to take a driving test, the only thing you will not be able to do is actually drive a car. Seems reasonable. Nobody is forcing you to take a test and nobody is suggesting you will be treated less favourably than those that do in any other aspect of your life.
Good luck with getting a job as a bus driver.Roman Rhodes said:
NewBod said:
I've just enquired about the Id requirements for a few banks. You can use other means (tax notification, birth certificate, utility bill etc.). You can still open accounts without a passport or driving licence.
The winter nights must fly by at your place.Edited by NerveAgent on Sunday 20th June 09:26
johnboy1975 said:
pquinn said:
J210 said:
Nothing dodgy about Hancock. Not like he dint tell Bojo about vaccines success. ohh wait
"Matt Hancock failed to tell Boris Johnson about a major Public Health England (PHE) study showing the effectiveness of vaccines against the Indian or delta variant during a key meeting to decide whether to extend Covid restrictions"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/06/19/ex...
Not the first time he's been accused of witholding or delaying information, usually in conjunction with Gove. Always when they want to bounce Boris and Cabinet into a particular direction. "Matt Hancock failed to tell Boris Johnson about a major Public Health England (PHE) study showing the effectiveness of vaccines against the Indian or delta variant during a key meeting to decide whether to extend Covid restrictions"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/06/19/ex...
Not that Boris The Spineless will do anything about it.
)Given HMG have a majority share in the company that develops and delivers training on global best practice project management methodologies (and other stuff) you'd think Bojo and the respective ministers would have done one of the 5 day courses
Fek knows how they organise themselves. It doesn't work great though does it.
Roman Rhodes said:
m_cozzy said:
Well mine was ditched a few weeks back. I will look forward to seeing some unmasked faces next week.
It will be the snivelling subservient types with testes the size of shrivelled tictacs who will be masked up still.
Why not stroll about with your giant bIt will be the snivelling subservient types with testes the size of shrivelled tictacs who will be masked up still.
ks hanging out as well?How insecure must someone be to think they can demonstrate their masculinity by not wearing a mask.
I have an exemption.
What are your thoughts on people with an exemption not wearing masks?
Boringvolvodriver said:
Scolmore said:
Some states. Anyone who views the US as a homogeneous entity probably hasn’t spent very long there.
As for Springsteen, even if you did the ‘right’ thing by taking your mandated experimental injection, we have people segregating society by brands of medical treatment. Seems crazy to me (and ought to regardless of which side of the inject everyone debate you fall)
As for Springsteen, even if you did the ‘right’ thing by taking your mandated experimental injection, we have people segregating society by brands of medical treatment. Seems crazy to me (and ought to regardless of which side of the inject everyone debate you fall)
You are right that it ought to raise a lot of alarm bells for people. The fact that is doesn’t, is, as far as I am concerned a big concern. Apathy can be extremely helpful to a government.
Regarding mask wearing (which can be seen as a barometer of compliance: in town yesterday I'd say it was 90%+ in shops. In the supermarket on Thursday 95%+.
I can't see most folks ditching them until the mandate it lifted.
Obsolete Driver said:
DT398 said:
If you choose not to take a driving test, the only thing you will not be able to do is actually drive a car. Seems reasonable. Nobody is forcing you to take a test and nobody is suggesting you will be treated less favourably than those that do in any other aspect of your life.
Good luck with getting a job as a bus driver.Is that all you can come up with as a meaningful response?
Are you saying that everyone in society should be a bus driver now? And if you don't make the grade, you should be cast out?
What about kids? Do they need to be bus drivers too?
NewBod said:
Wow.
Is that all you can come up with as a meaningful response?
Are you saying that everyone in society should be a bus driver now? And if you don't make the grade, you should be cast out?
What about kids? Do they need to be bus drivers too?
Your choices affect your life. If you don't have a driving licence it affects your opportunities for employment. Your choice not to be covid vaccinated may affect your opportunities in the future.Is that all you can come up with as a meaningful response?
Are you saying that everyone in society should be a bus driver now? And if you don't make the grade, you should be cast out?
What about kids? Do they need to be bus drivers too?
I thought all kids wanted to be train drivers.
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