Black Lives Matter activist critical after London shooting.

Black Lives Matter activist critical after London shooting.

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mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
If a group genuinely was driven to save and improve the lives of black people in the UK they would;

Encourage people to be in a committed relationship before having children
Campaign to shame men who abandon their children
Work to encourage people to take the Covid vaccine (and other vaccines)
Bring the community together to stop their children joining drug gangs and slicing each other up with knives.
Encourage young people to gain skills and to take responsibility for their own decisions.
The problem with this is that the issues face by black people in the UK, are the same problems faced by black populations all around the world. It will involve looking inwards, and people dont want to do that.


motco

15,962 posts

246 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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There's an alternative organisation co-founded by the chap who picked up and rescued a protester from the 'other side' at a London rally. United to Change and Inspire

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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mrporsche said:
The problem with this is that the issues face by black people in the UK, are the same problems faced by black populations all around the world. It will involve looking inwards, and people dont want to do that.
How’s that then? What issues does my mate Brian the GP face that’s similar to the issues faced by a victim of FGM in Somalia?

I can literally see nothing other than albedo that he shares with her more than with me.

And what does this have to do with antipathy towards an avowedly Marxist political movement?

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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Northernboy said:
How’s that then? What issues does my mate Brian the GP face that’s similar to the issues faced by a victim of FGM in Somalia?

I can literally see nothing other than albedo that he shares with her more than with me.

And what does this have to do with antipathy towards an avowedly Marxist political movement?
Black women in the U.K. suffer from fgm ...

It was looking at the points you raised.

Gangs and Violence
Absent fathers.
Taking responsibility
Vaccines is only a 2021 issue it is not something that BLM could even discuss when they were formed.

Absent fathers is a huge issue in America Jamaica Botswana and South Africa and so on.





Mr Tidy

22,370 posts

127 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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HappyClappy said:
So not one witness has yet come forward to her shooting despite it taking place at a busy house party.

Family must be pleased at her choice of friends.
That sums it up pretty well.

Black Lives only seem to matter if there is some involvement of non BLMs who can take the blame. banghead

Such a sad situation.

T6 vanman

3,067 posts

99 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
HappyClappy said:
So not one witness has yet come forward to her shooting despite it taking place at a busy house party.

Family must be pleased at her choice of friends.
That sums it up pretty well.

Black Lives only seem to matter if there is some involvement of non BLMs who can take the blame. banghead

Such a sad situation.

Ronstein

1,363 posts

37 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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HappyClappy said:
So not one witness has yet come forward to her shooting despite it taking place at a busy house party.

Family must be pleased at her choice of friends.
I get your point, but if it's a community where most are known to each other, no-one is going to be stupid enough to step up with the near certainty that they'll be the next ones on the slab if they do!

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

41 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Has Diane Abbott apologised yet for linking the shooting to Sasha's stance on "racism"?

R Mutt

5,893 posts

72 months

Wednesday 9th June 2021
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Mr Tidy said:
HappyClappy said:
So not one witness has yet come forward to her shooting despite it taking place at a busy house party.

Family must be pleased at her choice of friends.
That sums it up pretty well.

Black Lives only seem to matter if there is some involvement of non BLMs who can take the blame. banghead

Such a sad situation.
To be fair, all activism these days seems to revolve around finding someone to blame

Like religion where similar ideas are represented by different gods, in this case it's different demons, and the system which they have created.

Except in this case BLM and the other ideological extremists unite where all the world's evils can be attributed to the white man and Capitalism

FazerBoy

954 posts

150 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Another teenager stabbed to death in Streatham today.

No riots on the streets, no outraged statements from BLM. Nothing to see here - move along.

Black lives absolutely do not matter to BLM unless they fit their agenda and narrative.

BLM have to wait until finally the ‘right kind of death’ comes along and they can get out there on social media and on the streets to express their outrage purloin new sneakers.

They are not prepared to shine a spotlight on the black community itself and look for answers there, so they ignore black-on-black violence.

There is no doubt that there is racism in our society and this should be stood up to wherever it rears its ugly head, but organisations like BLM are part of the problem - not part of the solution.


N7GTX

7,874 posts

143 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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The 2 black ladies, who are sisters, murdered in Fryent Country Park last year is not causing outrage. The alleged killer is Danyal Hussein. The trial has just started.
This is the case where two police officers took selfies next to the bodies. However the sisters' mother complained the police were not giving the case sufficient attention.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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FazerBoy said:
They are not prepared to shine a spotlight on the black community itself and look for answers there, so they ignore black-on-black violence.
Ah yes, but that's the legacy of slavery, or colonialism, or something.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Johnnytheboy said:
FazerBoy said:
They are not prepared to shine a spotlight on the black community itself and look for answers there, so they ignore black-on-black violence.
Ah yes, but that's the legacy of slavery, or colonialism, or something.
All joking aside why is this the case ?

You raise the concept of black crime and somebodu comes along to point out white crime.

You raise absent black fathers and somebody will bring up their white mate whose father was absent.

blackrabbit

939 posts

45 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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g3org3y said:
105.4 said:
Dagnir said:
I just think it's odd that more people aren't aware of the truth and still support them.

How can so many people be that blind/dense?
It truly baffles me.

Here is an organisation that has clearly stated its aims to abolish capitalism, abolish democracy, dismantle the nuclear family and smash the patriarchy, none of which would end well if BLM ever achieved their “demands”, but heaven forbid any of this insanity is ever pointed out, otherwise you might as well be literally Hitler. rolleyes
Because they played a PR masterstroke.

You state you don't support BLM!? [Cathy Newman]So you're saying black lives don't matter?[/Cathy Newman]

YOU'RE A RACIST!
Look at the timing. It was stirred up in the US by progressives to influence voters in the last election who normally stay at home. Whole idea is to create and exaggerate issues to inflame some black people and increase the black vote who generally vote leftwing, Democrats could not win without getting them out to vote in greater numbers. Labour now playing same tactics.

R Mutt

5,893 posts

72 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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FazerBoy said:
Another teenager stabbed to death in Streatham today.

No riots on the streets, no outraged statements from BLM. Nothing to see here - move along.

Black lives absolutely do not matter to BLM unless they fit their agenda and narrative.

BLM have to wait until finally the ‘right kind of death’ comes along and they can get out there on social media and on the streets to express their outrage purloin new sneakers.

They are not prepared to shine a spotlight on the black community itself and look for answers there, so they ignore black-on-black violence.

There is no doubt that there is racism in our society and this should be stood up to wherever it rears its ugly head, but organisations like BLM are part of the problem - not part of the solution.
That's still the fault of the system. It's just as this comes down to propaganda (which it now merely is in the UK) it's easier to have black and white faces as the heroes and villains respectively. Unbelievably people buy that even when the victim is undeniably a very unpleasant person with no respect for the lives of others. Not just that, but it's now been spun as racist to highlight the nature of any victim of colour. Which is unhelpful when this supplants any interventions, particularly in the case of teens who could have their lives turned round for the better. But of course, as has been alleged many times on here, that is also underlying racism because no one cared about the prospects of these youths outside of this context, which is ironic as it seems the same youths are only valuable to such activists evidence of racism.

Edited by R Mutt on Friday 11th June 09:52

g3org3y

20,637 posts

191 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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FazerBoy said:
Another teenager stabbed to death in Streatham today.

No riots on the streets, no outraged statements from BLM. Nothing to see here - move along.

Black lives absolutely do not matter to BLM unless they fit their agenda and narrative.

BLM have to wait until finally the ‘right kind of death’ comes along and they can get out there on social media and on the streets to express their outrage purloin new sneakers.

They are not prepared to shine a spotlight on the black community itself and look for answers there, so they ignore black-on-black violence.

There is no doubt that there is racism in our society and this should be stood up to wherever it rears its ugly head, but organisations like BLM are part of the problem - not part of the solution.
Race Report said:
for every White victim of homicide aged 16 to 24 in 2018/19, there were 24 Black victims
Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-rep...

It's a shocking and saddening statistic. frown

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

41 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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FazerBoy said:
Another teenager stabbed to death in Streatham today.

No riots on the streets, no outraged statements from BLM. Nothing to see here - move along.
But... but... Stephen Lawrence! Black Lives Matter! Intersectionality! JUST TAKE THE KNEE YOU RACIST.

Drawweight

2,887 posts

116 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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It’s no wonder the English football team is rubbish when all the promising young footballers are getting stabbed.

anonymoususer

5,827 posts

48 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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It's what some 18 days since Sasha was shot
And the Metropolitan police still haven't find a whitey who has done it

It's high time that Channel 4 did a one off documentary with experts in it to find the whitey that did it
The programme could include contributions from stalwarts of these type of programmes such as that nice Geoffrey Wansell and Jackie Malton - the authoritative and reassuring ex senior policwoman
The show could be called The Real White Suspect or more simply "Who shot Sasha"

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

175 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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g3org3y said:
Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-rep...

It's a shocking and saddening statistic. frown
Mental. And yet regularly ignored and we all know why.


Edited by poo at Paul's on Friday 11th June 12:15