Gun wielding Mark McCloskey is running for the US Senate
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hidetheelephants said:
blackrabbit said:
citizensm1th said:
I think we will wait and see if the on going court case agrees with your view shall we
The attempted prosecution is politically motivated in intimidate and thats why they are having so many problems even building a case. The case is designed to harrass McClosky and cost him time and money. No way there will be any kind of conviction. McClosky is an accomplished attorney and used his gun in a legal way that saved potential violence as the police were no where to be seen. Its pretty clear the BLM thugs broke down a gate, were on private land and threatening home owners, some were carrying weapons also. Without him there good chance these BLM thugs would have started looting like they have in so many other areas.Edit:
The couple's lawyer at the time shared pictures of the gate, which was twisted and broken on its left side. "A mob of at least 100 smashed through the historic wrought iron gates of Portland Place, destroying them, rushed towards my home where my family was having dinner outside and put us in fear for our lives," Mark McCloskey also told KMOV.
However, a live stream from the front of the march shows that the first protesters walked through an intact gate that was being held open. Freelance photographer and University of Missouri journalism graduate student Daniel Shular told the BBC that the gate was unlocked when the first marchers entered. "People just walked up to it and opened the gate," he said, estimating he was the sixth person through. "It looked normal to me when I passed through."
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53891184
There is video of them walking through an unlocked gate. Video evidence also does not show the protesters crossing onto the McCloskeys' property, remaining instead on the sidewalks and in the roadway.
Mark McCloskey also told an interviewer at KMOV that "the threats happened probably after we got the guns".
In the ad, McCloskey references the incident that made him famous and repeated a lie about it that he has said many times before: “An angry mob marched to destroy my home and kill my family.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/24/st...
Note: 'repeated a lie about it that he has said many times before'.
As for serial vexatious litigant, that continued, he even sued the photographer who photographed them
https://www.insider.com/mccloskeys-journalist-who-...
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 26th May 11:06
Lord Marylebone said:
mybrainhurts said:
You're not keeping up to date on this, are you? Check current audit activity.
My apologies, but I’m not sure what you are talking about.The latest I read was that the US election was secure, untampered with, and non-fraudulent.
If there has been any further developments in respect of this, I have not seen them and would be grateful if you could share the information with us.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/25/politics/new-ha...
Byker28i said:
BR has a habit of making things up[ that didn't happen, or searching out articles from dubious sources that match his beliefs
As usual you post biased leftwing links from Guardian etc. Interesting the BBC only shows part of the video and not the beginning. Anyone can search youtube to see the whole video and see what really happened. No one has doctored the full video on youtube. Pretty clear BLM broke down the gate, were illegally trespassing on private land, acting aggressively and some are carrying what looks like weapons. You may choose to think this is fine admirable behaviour by BLM but others may find it quite threatening and are well within their rights to protect their property and safety.McClosky would not have pulled out a gun on his front step if not for illegal BLM trespassing/intimidation and that is a fact whether you like it or not.
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blackrabbit said:
Anyone can search youtube to see the whole video and see what really happened
And anyone who does will see that:1) Protesters entered a private street through an unlocked and undamaged gate.
2) No "intimidation" by BLM took place before people started pointing guns at the protesters.
3) BLM protesters weren't on the property of McCloskey when they were confronted by him.
Nobody has disputed that they were trespassing. But they were walking past the house in question before they were threatened with an AR-15.
I see you've now rolled back from "BLM had weapons" to "it maybe looks like BLM had weapons".
Edited by HM-2 on Wednesday 26th May 12:53
HM-2 said:
blackrabbit said:
Anyone can search youtube to see the whole video and see what really happened
And anyone who does will see that:1) Protesters entered a private street through an unlocked and undamaged gate.
2) No "intimidation" by BLM took place before people started pointing guns at the protesters.
3) BLM protesters weren't on the property of McCloskey when they were confronted by him.
Nobody has disputed that they were trespassing. But they were walking past the house in question before they were threatened with an AR-15.
I see you've now rolled back from "BLM had weapons" to "it maybe looks like BLM had weapons".
Edited by HM-2 on Wednesday 26th May 12:53
What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property. All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house. Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon. Pulling the gun acted as a deterrent. Lets see what the court says.
voyds9 said:
geeks said:
Cant be the only one looking at this thinking if she fired, she would pistol whip him right in the nose from the recoil...
But the gun was so badly put together it wouldn't fire until the prosecution correctly put it togetherThe prosecution found this, then ordered it be rebuilt so it could fire, so they could try and make a case.
The whole case is a great example why the CPS, as poor as it can be, should never be staffed by politicians
Imagine if your chosen career was political comedy...you'd be f
ked now.
You literally have nowhere to go with sketch writing as the real world of politics is so absurd.
It's like AI took over a decade ago and has infiltrated just enough dumb-borgs into politics that mankind will soon vote for the rule of the machine just to be rid of the unintentional satire.
ked now. You literally have nowhere to go with sketch writing as the real world of politics is so absurd.
It's like AI took over a decade ago and has infiltrated just enough dumb-borgs into politics that mankind will soon vote for the rule of the machine just to be rid of the unintentional satire.
blackrabbit said:
Yes as looking at the video again its not 100% clear whether its a gun, bat or what one of the BLM group has.
Open carry is legal in Missouri anyway.blackrabbit said:
What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property.
You can assert this as much as you like, but the simple fact of the matter is that the group were passing his house until he pointed a rifle at them. The footage shows this as clear as day.blackrabbit said:
All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house
There's literally zero evidence to suggest that their intent was anything other than to pass by his house on the way to that of Mayor Krewson. Speculating they had any intent towards McCloskey at all is irrational and absurd, basically the equivalent of assuming that anyone who walks past your front door wants to rob you.blackrabbit said:
Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon.
The statistical odds are pretty heavily in my favour though, given that 93% of BLM protests have been entirely peaceful with zero observed, recorded or reported instances of violence. blackrabbit said:
BR has a habit of making things up[ that didn't happen, or searching out articles from dubious sources that match his beliefs
As usual you post biased leftwing links from Guardian etc. Interesting the BBC only shows part of the video and not the beginning. Anyone can search youtube to see the whole video and see what really happened. No one has doctored the full video on youtube. Pretty clear BLM broke down the gate, were illegally trespassing on private land, acting aggressively and some are carrying what looks like weapons. You may choose to think this is fine admirable behaviour by BLM but others may find it quite threatening and are well within their rights to protect their property and safety.McClosky would not have pulled out a gun on his front step if not for illegal BLM trespassing/intimidation and that is a fact whether you like it or not.
You also ignored that Mark McCloskey also told an interviewer at KMOV that "the threats happened probably after we got the guns".
At no point did they go onto his property nor look like they were going to - they were heading elsewhere and just walking past his property.
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blackrabbit said:
Yes as looking at the video again its not 100% clear whether its a gun, bat or what one of the BLM group has.
What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property. All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house. Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon. Pulling the gun acted as a deterrent. Lets see what the court says.
So much backtracking, moving the goalposts and utter conjecture. What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property. All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house. Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon. Pulling the gun acted as a deterrent. Lets see what the court says.
mpkayeuk said:
Electro1980 said:
Because what the US does makes a huge impact on us and the US set itself up as the worlds police and (I’m glad I don’t actually have to say this as I would struggle to say it without laughing) exemplar of democracy.
Welcome back Electro. Assumed you were banned, but didn't catch what for.Gameface said:
blackrabbit said:
Yes as looking at the video again its not 100% clear whether its a gun, bat or what one of the BLM group has.
What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property. All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house. Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon. Pulling the gun acted as a deterrent. Lets see what the court says.
So much backtracking, moving the goalposts and utter conjecture. What is clear is BLM were intimidating people on private property. All McCloskey did was stop them from going onto his garden and potentially into his house. Quite frankly neither you nor me knows whether the BLM group would have smashed up the neighborhood if McCloskey didn't pull a weapon. Pulling the gun acted as a deterrent. Lets see what the court says.
blackrabbit said:
I posted on here that McClosky will not be prosecuted as he broke no laws. We will see the outcome soon.
The "outcome" is one guilty plea for misdemeanor harassment and one for misdemeanor assault, both to avoid more serious criminal charges. So both by their own admission guilty of breaking laws. In the words of their lawyer:"Both of them understand that what they did is a violation of Missouri law"
So much for "broke no laws" then.
Oakey said:
hidetheelephants said:
What's your point? Is a plea bargain any less of a legal settlement than a jury verdict or a judge's decision?
Maybe the question you should be asking is why suspects in the US rarely opt for a trial to have their guilt proven beyond reasonable doubt?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff