CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)

[Evolved]

pquinn said:

NewBod said:

Can you provide a source for these figures?

Thanks.

Think you'll need to consult his proctologist.

very good!

[Twinfan]

I see the F1 is going to be run with a full capacity crowd:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57598221

As long as you have your COVID Pass of course

[Twinfan]

Nickgnome said:

Please read my last sentence above, first. It is key.

Every situation will have a probability impact. If say two people share a bed and have intimate contact the rate will be different to 2 people in a room and different agin as they move around a house. But for each of these very particular situation the probability will be broadly similar i.e a constant for each situation. That does not impact the 20% or 50% and could be overlaid was a 3rd factor.

At some point variables have to be taken out to get a good like for like comparison. It's just data analysis. None of this impacts on the benefit of the infected person being vaccinated as an impact to the vaccinated but uninfected person.

I'm a data analyst by trade and that makes fk all sense to me.

Does anyone else understand what the chuff he's on about?

[NewBod]

Twinfan said:

I see the F1 is going to be run with a full capacity crowd:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57598221

As long as you have your COVID Pass of course

Crackers, isn't it. It's nothing like a return to normal.

Quite sinister too.

One thing I can't get my head around is the fact that you don't have to be tested if you are vaccinated. You can still be infectious even when vaccinated. It's ok for the vaccinated to be super spreaders? We have shut the world down over the last year and a bit to 'stop the spread'.

The rules are just so barmy, inconsistent and stupid that I struggle to see the logic.

[anonymous-user]

Twinfan said:

I see the F1 is going to be run with a full capacity crowd:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57598221

As long as you have your COVID Pass of course

I’m so glad we follow the science. Vaccinated but full of covid can go, non-vaccinated need to prove they dont have covid. It’s so blindingly hypocritical I struggle to understand why it’s acceptable. Is it because so many have now been vaccinated we do health policy by populist approval now?

[johnboy1975]

bern said:

Funny as ever!

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdWRpb...

Note: don't listen near any young ears!

Very good. Had a quick listen and Mike Graham is on top form as usual. I wasnt aware of this podcast (strange they dont plug it, with your NSFW/K warning), so looks like I've got 134 episodes to catch up on

[NewBod]

Nickgnome - where are you getting your figures from?

Hello?

Edited by NewBod on Thursday 24th June 19:53

[Evolved]

NewBod said:

:shout : Nickgnome - where are you getting your figures from?

Hello?

Just to reiterate a previous reply to this as it warrants yet another airing.

“Think you'll need to consult his proctologist”

[NewBod]

Evolved said:

Just to reiterate a previous reply to this as it warrants yet another airing.

“Think you'll need to consult his proctologist”

[Andy888]

Some new countries added this evening to the Northern Ireland green list for travel, effective from 4am Wed 30 June, including the Balearic islands.

Full list here: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-c...

Might give some indication of what is going to happen to the rest of the UK soon.

Not that much to write home about tbh, but a bit of partying in Ibiza might go down well enough. I guess flight prices will have rocketed already though :-(

[mike80]

soofsayer said:

I’m so glad we follow the science. Vaccinated but full of covid can go, non-vaccinated need to prove they dont have covid. It’s so blindingly hypocritical I struggle to understand why it’s acceptable. Is it because so many have now been vaccinated we do health policy by populist approval now?

Bizarre isn't it. Big money events, no problems. School sports day or party, you're going to die!!!

[NewBod]

Andy888 said:

Some new countries added this evening to the Northern Ireland green list for travel, effective from 4am Wed 30 June, including the Balearic islands.

Full list here: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-c...

Might give some indication of what is going to happen to the rest of the UK soon.

Not that much to write home about tbh, but a bit of partying in Ibiza might go down well enough. I guess flight prices will have rocketed already though :-(

The list of rules is insane.

How anyone can accept this is beyond me.

[SS2.]

NewBod said:

One thing I can't get my head around is the fact that you don't have to be tested if you are vaccinated. You can still be infectious even when vaccinated. It's ok for the vaccinated to be super spreaders? We have shut the world down over the last year and a bit to 'stop the spread'.

The rules are just so barmy, inconsistent and stupid that I struggle to see the logic.

Carrots to get the unvaccinated to become good citizens by coming forward and getting jabbed.

[NewBod]

mike80 said:

soofsayer said:

I’m so glad we follow the science. Vaccinated but full of covid can go, non-vaccinated need to prove they dont have covid. It’s so blindingly hypocritical I struggle to understand why it’s acceptable. Is it because so many have now been vaccinated we do health policy by populist approval now?

Bizarre isn't it. Big money events, no problems. School sports day or party, you're going to die!!!

Same as my daughter's school. No parents allowed despite the fact they will be stood outside on a field.

Makes me laugh because I know for a fact that loads of kids and parents are regularly mixing outside of school. Oh the shame of it!

[Twinfan]

NewBod said:

Crackers, isn't it. It's nothing like a return to normal.

Quite sinister too.

One thing I can't get my head around is the fact that you don't have to be tested if you are vaccinated. You can still be infectious even when vaccinated. It's ok for the vaccinated to be super spreaders? We have shut the world down over the last year and a bit to 'stop the spread'.

The rules are just so barmy, inconsistent and stupid that I struggle to see the logic.

soofsayer said:

I’m so glad we follow the science. Vaccinated but full of covid can go, non-vaccinated need to prove they dont have covid. It’s so blindingly hypocritical I struggle to understand why it’s acceptable. Is it because so many have now been vaccinated we do health policy by populist approval now?

Yep, it's nuts. And this who have recovered from the virus, who have antibodies just like the vaxxed do, also have to test.

All this 1/3rd asymptomatic spreaders doesn't seem to apply to the vaxxed does it?

It's bks.

[NewBod]

SS2. said:

NewBod said:

One thing I can't get my head around is the fact that you don't have to be tested if you are vaccinated. You can still be infectious even when vaccinated. It's ok for the vaccinated to be super spreaders? We have shut the world down over the last year and a bit to 'stop the spread'.

The rules are just so barmy, inconsistent and stupid that I struggle to see the logic.

Carrots to get the unvaccinated to become good citizens by coming forward and getting jabbed.

I dislike all of the options. However, some will be pleased that they don't have to take a damn test of they are vaccinated.

Crazy to think that this is so far removed from what I consider normal. The response should be bugger off, we aren't doing anything of the sort. Loads will be fine with it though and think it's OK. Just a minor inconvenience being jabbed, isn't it.

[NewBod]

anonymous said:

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Why is it a good thing when the vaccines don't work 100%?

The vaccines are leading everyone into a false sense of security.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Which holiday companies?

The only one I am aware of is Saga Cruises, which you’re very welcome to.

Just as well you are able to be jabbed eh?

Being asked to be injected to protect people like you is ridiculous. I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.

[Boringvolvodriver]

anonymous said:

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Really? Why is it a good thing? What happens if you are genuinely medically exempt?

[Harrison Bergeron]

steveT350C said:

40% rise in kids under 17 being prescribed antidepressants.

It really is win win for big pharma.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/23/number...

This link and the one Elysium posted are truly sad. Children at 5 should be a bit shy then after a bit of encouragement should be off fking about making tonnes of noise and general mayhem not having panic attacks.

Kinda amazed our professional griefers weren’t posting about this, have their bleeding hearts run out after India?

SS2. said:

Yikes indeed.

If those numbers bore any resemblance to reality, we'd be sacrificing the younger to [briefly] extend the lifespan of the older.

Not only would that be utterly insane, it would be criminal..

Edited by SS2. on Thursday 24th June 15:51

All together now

—fk you, got mine.—

pquinn said:

Bullett said:

steveT350C said:

The Great Reset is not a conspiracy...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-57532368...

That's a really weird article.

It took five people to write an incoherent argument that basically says there is a Great Reset but if you talk about it in a bad way you're wrong.

I'd dismiss the whole thing as bks too - a clash between a weirdo and other weirdos - but after reading that I'd start to wonder.

Very much in the gaslighting style of other fact checkers.