CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)
Discussion
77th Brigade said:
dave_s13 said:
J210 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yet they havent had a death since June the 13th https://m.jpost.com/health-science/covid-19-might-...
77th Brigade said:
Was it always about administering it to children? The effects hidden for years as they develop. The leap isn't too great now, is it?
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for? Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
But that was on Twitter, so who knows?
Edit: I'm not home, but will try and dig out the links and the zoom calls with them discussing it.
All I can find now is hundred of promotional videos saying the opposite, the vaccines increase fertility!
Edited by Hes A Menthol on Tuesday 22 June 22:55
craig1912 said:
jameswills said:
Hearing school sports days are being cancelled. Utterly crazy while we watch the Euros, Queens, Ascot, Olympics, Wimbledon take place. I really do struggle at times to see any logic.
Apparently having them hear us but parents can’t watch!Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?
Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction. Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
APontus said:
ou really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction.
Are you even reading all the stuff out there being posted every...single...day??https://twitter.com/TJ0056/status/1399848193781907...
Edited by Hes A Menthol on Tuesday 22 June 22:25
Boringvolvodriver said:
How the hell can 111 be as good as a GP? Maybe now given that some GPS appear to be unwilling to see people face to face but in normal circumstances?
And just because one trust is doing Ok, doesn’t mean that they all are. The Uk is a pretty big country.
But I guess if your glass is always overflowing in your little world, then everything must be fine and dandy.
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on. And just because one trust is doing Ok, doesn’t mean that they all are. The Uk is a pretty big country.
But I guess if your glass is always overflowing in your little world, then everything must be fine and dandy.
As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms. I hope records will be fully on line the future. So much more efficient and easily steered to the correct skillset.
I normally do the surgery for my annual MoT other than that have not been there for years.
Recently did the 111 thing and they were brilliant. Ascertained likely problem and ambulance into ED within and hour. SVT
Diagnosis confirmed and temporary treatment sorted.
My heart was beating at 170bpm against a normal resting of 55. BP back to 125 over 63.
Back doing my 10k row or 10/16k daily run.
Hope you are not too stuck in your preconceptions.
Hoink said:
North Tyneside here.
Our GP surgery hasn't opened properly since the first lockdown. They are pushing for telephone appointments for everyone with reduced places. They simply do not want to see people face to face.
The surgery itself is locked with an intercom to speak to the receptionist...who you cannot get past.
Same in Herts. Call the GP for an appointment and they will call you back a week on Wednesday at some non-specific time between 9am and 6pm. Virtually impossible to get an appointment at the surgery and you are left standing outside with a mask on while they get their tasers charged up just in case you don’t comply with any of the new rules. To quote Boris, “ totally ...... hopeless”. 111 is definitely as good as our GP but that’s because our GP is now a complete shocker. Kids had to go to A&E, so it’s definitely happening. Our GP surgery hasn't opened properly since the first lockdown. They are pushing for telephone appointments for everyone with reduced places. They simply do not want to see people face to face.
The surgery itself is locked with an intercom to speak to the receptionist...who you cannot get past.
jameswills said:
garyhun said:
it’s as though an infinite improbability drive has been activated to drive decisions leading to a situation where “An incredible range of highly improbable things can happen.”Vaccine passports and vaccinating kids being two prime examples. (Already cited by Elysium as inevitable)
We can't stop it without the media (you can protest, but no one will see it apart from your fellow "nutters"
). With them, it would all be over already. They (or their paymasters, which might in certain cases be the same thing - again, no accident. Do we really need to spend 400m advertising covid?) want this as much as Boris and co.I don't know what the answer is. Maybe a clearly structured list of things they've said and then moved the goalposts. 13 volumes of this thread compressed into one long tweet, and then shared amongst all the high profile opposers, JHB, Desmond Swayne et Al. Problem is people just keep laughing at them/us, until such a time as it's too late.
Maybe Boris's final victory will be restricting opposing views on forums like this?
Hes A Menthol said:
APontus said:
ou really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction.
Are you even reading all the stuff out there being posted every...single...day??GSE said:
steveT350C said:
How much do ‘they’ pay shills?
I could do a much better job if I sold my soul, which I have chosen not to.
This exactly! It's so obvious here!I could do a much better job if I sold my soul, which I have chosen not to.
That's the clever thing about saying - "following the science" and spending hundreds of millions advertising on various media formats to scare people and convince them it's their moral duty to stay home and take the vaccine.
It clears the way for the virtue-signaling
s to do their work for them, and in this day and age, we're sure as hell not short of them!APontus said:
Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?
Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction. Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
Hes A Menthol said:
"But....but.....but.......127k excess winter deaths!!!" they all cried.
Just because your TV says there's a pandemic it doesn't mean there really is a pandemic.
This one I can believe. Obviously we are not in a pandemic now. Evidenced by the lack of excess deaths for the last 12 weeksJust because your TV says there's a pandemic it doesn't mean there really is a pandemic.
Hes A Menthol said:
77th Brigade said:
Was it always about administering it to children? The effects hidden for years as they develop. The leap isn't too great now, is it?
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for? Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.
As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms. I hope records will be fully on line the future. So much more efficient and easily steered to the correct skillset.
I normally do the surgery for my annual MoT other than that have not been there for years.
Recently did the 111 thing and they were brilliant. Ascertained likely problem and ambulance into ED within and hour. SVT
Diagnosis confirmed and temporary treatment sorted.
My heart was beating at 170bpm against a normal resting of 55. BP back to 125 over 63.
Back doing my 10k row or 10/16k daily run.
Hope you are not too stuck in your preconceptions.
I am glad you were ok and sorted. However, just because you were, doesn’t mean that everybody will be does it? And your circumstances were an emergency.As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms. I hope records will be fully on line the future. So much more efficient and easily steered to the correct skillset.
I normally do the surgery for my annual MoT other than that have not been there for years.
Recently did the 111 thing and they were brilliant. Ascertained likely problem and ambulance into ED within and hour. SVT
Diagnosis confirmed and temporary treatment sorted.
My heart was beating at 170bpm against a normal resting of 55. BP back to 125 over 63.
Back doing my 10k row or 10/16k daily run.
Hope you are not too stuck in your preconceptions.
I wonder how 111 would be at a possible diagnosis of say cancer or gynecology issues which require an examination?
Please try to be a bit more understanding- the world doesn’t revolve you and your wonderful life.
Elysium said:
I have finally come to the conclusion that we are going to end up with vaccine passports and that the vast majority of people down to 16 and 17 year olds are going to have these vaccines. In fact I think we will eventually vaccinate children.
I still think its completely unnecessary to vaccinate young people, but we've gone so far over the edge that we simply cannot tolerate seeing large numbers of cases. We need to stop testing and the only way thats going to happen is near universal vaccination.
The USA is already well on the way and I would be amazed if we did not follow.
I feel desperately sorry for the few people who will be damaged by the vaccines, but society seems to have pretty much decided not to give a damn.
We are an ugly species when our back is against the wall.
I am inclined to agree that Vaccine Passports are coming.I still think its completely unnecessary to vaccinate young people, but we've gone so far over the edge that we simply cannot tolerate seeing large numbers of cases. We need to stop testing and the only way thats going to happen is near universal vaccination.
The USA is already well on the way and I would be amazed if we did not follow.
I feel desperately sorry for the few people who will be damaged by the vaccines, but society seems to have pretty much decided not to give a damn.
We are an ugly species when our back is against the wall.
Big events as 'pilot' events, with no 'control' to the experiment taking place, means they will, naturally, be 'successful'.
People are just saying 'woo! I can go out!' with no forethought as to what it brings in for the future.
There are a few on the Goodwood Festival of Speed / Revival thread on here that have said they are cancelling their tickets because they want no part of this societal distruction, so kudos to them, but I'm sure their tickets will be snapped up by the unthinking.
I feel like writing to Lord March (that's his name, isn't it?) and pointing out the issues, but I'm also certain nothing would come of it - the Revival broadcasts this year (last year? Who knows - it all blurs into one when every day is the same) had everyone muffled and impossible to understand with their masks on outdoors and feet away from others, and I simply couldn't bear to watch it.
I remain hopeful that the kids will be the red line that shall not be crossed, but the KoolAid drinkers number many out there.
I overheard a conversation earlier where a 30s female was saying her father (!) had called her a 'selfish t
t' for not getting jabbed up 
and she said that a lot of her friends are also not going to get jabbed up because of the reports of 4,000(?) women who have reported menstrual problems post-vaccination.Add the Japanese study on spike proteins and lipid nanoparticles being found throughout the body (but especially in ovaries) into that, which I would hope gets more airtime, and I really hope that some pushback is finally seen in the mental headlong rush to dive into waters where the bottom is a complete unknown.
I think things are going to get very messy soon and, as noted, a two tier society seems inevitable. If a father can call his daughter a 'selfish t
t' for not 'doing what you're supposed to do to get us out of this situation' (to paraphrase) then random strangers will no doubt revel in pointing and mocking the unclean with their I would hope enough sanity will be retained that unjabbed people can still live a reasonable life, but I am mentally preparing to be the victim of a lot of discrimination and to suffer difficulties just doing everyday things.
The future definitely is not bright as far as I can see it. Well, apart from for Hancock's wallet and his promotion prospects under Herr Schwab.
I think I will be having a nice walk in London this Saturday. I hope others will be too.
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Tuesday 22 June 22:38
V88Dicky said:
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
He needs to STFU, what with his years of professional medical experience and knowledge!tangerine_sedge said:
tannhauser said:
Yet this bint is still pro-covid vaccine confused
Vaccinated her own 14yo son and claims it’s “mostly safe”.
Probably because she realises that (a) the risk of the same happening to her child is incredibly low, and (b) that the vaccine is not likely to be the cause of the heart problem.Vaccinated her own 14yo son and claims it’s “mostly safe”.
There will be lots of people dropping dead every day for various reasons, some will have had the jab recently and some not - this is just pure statistics.
Speaking of statistics here's a nice one from Ian on twitter.
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