CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)
Discussion
johnboy1975 said:
APontus said:
Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?
Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction. Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.
I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.
I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
This was the link to the fertility clinics discussing seriously low sperm and egg count. Once again pulled by youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sis1Sddzbqk
I will dig out the discussions on pregnancy, fertility etc. when I find them. Got to go to work now.
Edited by Hes A Menthol on Wednesday 23 June 07:57
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.
As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accuratelyAs long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.
In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.
Boringvolvodriver said:
I am glad you were ok and sorted. However, just because you were, doesn’t mean that everybody will be does it? And your circumstances were an emergency.
I wonder how 111 would be at a possible diagnosis of say cancer or gynecology issues which require an examination?
Please try to be a bit more understanding- the world doesn’t revolve you and your wonderful life.
Or a 90 year old who is deaf and doesn't do smartphones....... ???I wonder how 111 would be at a possible diagnosis of say cancer or gynecology issues which require an examination?
Please try to be a bit more understanding- the world doesn’t revolve you and your wonderful life.
jagnet said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.
As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accuratelyAs long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.
In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.
Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.
Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
Apparently it’s all over, provided you are double jabbed, which of course you can prove with your shiny new vaccine passport:
My favourite bit is the part where unvaccinated children can avoid travel if they are with double jabbed parents. I assume the vaccines cast some sort of magical anti COVID shield over the entire group.
The Daily Mail said:
‘It’s all over, even if not everyone in Government has realised it yet,’ the source said. ‘The link between cases and deaths is broken. We know that double jabs work to protect people so why delay the resumption of international travel? There is no reason not to go ahead now – every day counts.’
Tomorrow’s ministerial meeting on foreign travel is expected to be followed by a further session on Monday. Ministers are expected to sign off the plans to allow the double jabbed to travel to amber list countries without the need for quarantine on return.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9714383/Blueprint-holiday-lift-Ministers-poised-end-amber-list-curbs-July-19.htmlTomorrow’s ministerial meeting on foreign travel is expected to be followed by a further session on Monday. Ministers are expected to sign off the plans to allow the double jabbed to travel to amber list countries without the need for quarantine on return.
My favourite bit is the part where unvaccinated children can avoid travel if they are with double jabbed parents. I assume the vaccines cast some sort of magical anti COVID shield over the entire group.
jagnet said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.
As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accuratelyAs long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.
In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.
Old fashioned prejudice is difficult for some.
The spot other stuff is a completely different issue and should be dealt with via an annual health check as a minimum. That however is a different discussion.
When our records are fully accessible true needs will be understood and services tailored to suit. Resistance against this will result in ongoing inadequate care for those that do not have private funding.
RSTurboPaul said:
See also:
Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.
Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
The record to date is appalling. So no your aim is laudable but it does not happen. Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.
Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
Nickgnome said:
When our records are fully accessible true needs will be understood and services tailored to suit. Resistance against this will result in ongoing inadequate care for those that do not have private funding.
What makes you think that those with private funding will be able to afford insurance and/or treatment once insurance companies and healthcare providers are able to determine in advance your likelihood of genetic-based illness/susceptibility?Wonky gene that might cause cancer?
No cancer cover for you.
Hes A Menthol said:
johnboy1975 said:
APontus said:
Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?
Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction. Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.
I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.
I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-sperm-va...
MEC said:
Deaf as in hard of hearing (enough to struggle on a phone).
Old as in no internet/smart phone?
An awful lot I should imagine.
90 year olds as well as i recall.Old as in no internet/smart phone?
An awful lot I should imagine.
Some people like to try and prevent a good plan when the few can be more easily accommodated by releasing pressure. Blind, deaf or whatever impairment.
What about those with limited or no mobility Getting to the surgery for them is nigh on impossible but I do not use them as part of my argument.
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Hes A Menthol said:
I will dig out the links tomorrow.
Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.
I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.
I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
Thanks. I'm new(ish) to BW, after seeing him being interviewed by Triggernometry. I'll hunt it downSorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.
I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.
I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
It is such an easy test to do. Measure 1000 sperm / egg counts. Vaccinate. Remeasure over a period of months.
Are you saying this has been done, its common knowledge, yet no MSM outlet is running the story?
This from the BMJ
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n509
said:
There is “absolutely no evidence” that covid-19 vaccines can affect the fertility of women or men, says new expert guidance
Very vague and wishy washy. 2/10This one is better and seems to debunk infertility - Small group though (40 men).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/21/s...
Nickgnome said:
RSTurboPaul said:
See also:
Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.
Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
The record to date is appalling. So no your aim is laudable but it does not happen. Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.
Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
Alucidnation said:
Not opening, is that one of the now hundreds of official adverts saying that the vaccines actually increase fertility? I see there have been around 50 videos, aderts and articles posted on twitter in the last 12 hours saying the same.
Well, that is great, and certainly puts the depopulation concerns to oneside. Looks like Nana will be have more kids now jabbed.
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