CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)

CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)

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Hes A Menthol

43 posts

35 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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johnboy1975 said:
APontus said:
Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?


Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction.
I find that hard to believe. Reputable link?
I will dig out the links tomorrow.

Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.

I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.



I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.




This was the link to the fertility clinics discussing seriously low sperm and egg count. Once again pulled by youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sis1Sddzbqk


I will dig out the discussions on pregnancy, fertility etc. when I find them. Got to go to work now.

Edited by Hes A Menthol on Wednesday 23 June 07:57

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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amgmcqueen said:
robuk said:
The batst continues!
In the UK at least. The rest of the world seems to be lifting all restrictions apart from us!
You’re deluded if you think that is the case.

jagnet

4,116 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.

As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accurately

Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.

In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.

MEC

2,604 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Boringvolvodriver said:
I am glad you were ok and sorted. However, just because you were, doesn’t mean that everybody will be does it? And your circumstances were an emergency.

I wonder how 111 would be at a possible diagnosis of say cancer or gynecology issues which require an examination?

Please try to be a bit more understanding- the world doesn’t revolve you and your wonderful life.
Or a 90 year old who is deaf and doesn't do smartphones....... ???

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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77th Brigade said:
Nickgnome]7th Brigade said:
Snipped

Typical part quoted therefore misleading post.
Pardon?
Read the complete article and post all of it not just the that suits you.

The bit that explains why etc.





Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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MEC said:
Or a 90 year old who is deaf and doesn't do smartphones....... ???
yes there must be million of those.




RSTurboPaul

10,446 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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jagnet said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.

As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accurately

Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.

In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.
See also:

Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.


Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.

Elysium

13,866 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Apparently it’s all over, provided you are double jabbed, which of course you can prove with your shiny new vaccine passport:

The Daily Mail said:
‘It’s all over, even if not everyone in Government has realised it yet,’ the source said. ‘The link between cases and deaths is broken. We know that double jabs work to protect people so why delay the resumption of international travel? There is no reason not to go ahead now – every day counts.’

Tomorrow’s ministerial meeting on foreign travel is expected to be followed by a further session on Monday. Ministers are expected to sign off the plans to allow the double jabbed to travel to amber list countries without the need for quarantine on return.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9714383/Blueprint-holiday-lift-Ministers-poised-end-amber-list-curbs-July-19.html

My favourite bit is the part where unvaccinated children can avoid travel if they are with double jabbed parents. I assume the vaccines cast some sort of magical anti COVID shield over the entire group.

MEC

2,604 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome said:
yes there must be million of those.
Deaf as in hard of hearing (enough to struggle on a phone).

Old as in no internet/smart phone?


An awful lot I should imagine.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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jagnet said:
Nickgnome said:
Why do you need F2F all the time. it's just an old fashioned approach. We have moved on.

As long as you can adequately describe your symptoms.
Fascinating. In that case perhaps then you'd like to explain how my doctor managed to confuse encephalitis with a respiratory illness in a telephone consultation, despite describing my symptoms accurately

Fortunately I ignored the doctor's suggestion to isolate and order a covid test and paid for a blood test privately.

In person appointments are so important. Many people have gone to the doctors for one issue only to have the doctor spot something else of concern at the same time. That just won't happen via the phone, leading to many more illnesses being missed early.
So you spoke to your GP and you described your symptoms accurately then just maybe your GP is not good. Maybe via a 111 service the correct person could have been appointed in your direction and a F2F organised efficiently.

Old fashioned prejudice is difficult for some.

The spot other stuff is a completely different issue and should be dealt with via an annual health check as a minimum. That however is a different discussion.

When our records are fully accessible true needs will be understood and services tailored to suit. Resistance against this will result in ongoing inadequate care for those that do not have private funding.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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RSTurboPaul said:
See also:

Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.


Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
The record to date is appalling. So no your aim is laudable but it does not happen.



RSTurboPaul

10,446 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome said:
When our records are fully accessible true needs will be understood and services tailored to suit. Resistance against this will result in ongoing inadequate care for those that do not have private funding.
What makes you think that those with private funding will be able to afford insurance and/or treatment once insurance companies and healthcare providers are able to determine in advance your likelihood of genetic-based illness/susceptibility?

Wonky gene that might cause cancer?

No cancer cover for you.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Hes A Menthol said:
johnboy1975 said:
APontus said:
Hes A Menthol said:
Maybe it is the sterilisation they are going for?


Loads of fertility clinics saying that the eggs and sperm from the vaccinated are pretty much dead.
You really shouldn't be posting comments like that without some kind of evidence. I'm no fan of this vaccination programme, but these kind of comments make it very difficult for reasonable questioning to get traction.
I find that hard to believe. Reputable link?
I will dig out the links tomorrow.

Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.

I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.



I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
Here you go..

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-sperm-va...

Elysium

13,866 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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MEC said:
Deaf as in hard of hearing (enough to struggle on a phone).

Old as in no internet/smart phone?


An awful lot I should imagine.
90 year olds as well as i recall.

Some people like to try and prevent a good plan when the few can be more easily accommodated by releasing pressure. Blind, deaf or whatever impairment.

What about those with limited or no mobility Getting to the surgery for them is nigh on impossible but I do not use them as part of my argument.

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johnboy1975

8,415 posts

109 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Hes A Menthol said:
I will dig out the links tomorrow.

Sorry, thought this was pretty much common knowledge. It is something all of them have been discussing in great depth, Dr. Robert Malone etc.

I think it was Bret Weinstein's Podcast, also on Youtube, where they discussed it in depth.



I'm not home tonight and the links are on my macbook.
Thanks. I'm new(ish) to BW, after seeing him being interviewed by Triggernometry. I'll hunt it down

It is such an easy test to do. Measure 1000 sperm / egg counts. Vaccinate. Remeasure over a period of months.

Are you saying this has been done, its common knowledge, yet no MSM outlet is running the story?


This from the BMJ

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n509

said:
There is “absolutely no evidence” that covid-19 vaccines can affect the fertility of women or men, says new expert guidance
Very vague and wishy washy. 2/10

This one is better and seems to debunk infertility - Small group though (40 men).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/06/21/s...


RSTurboPaul

10,446 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome said:
RSTurboPaul said:
See also:

Child abusers who are controlling their children and training them in what to say to medical and education professionals, in order that the abuser can continue their games.


Face-to-face enables unspoken clues and body language to be picked up and acted on. A blurry video call (at best) with the parent behind the camera and potentially threatening violence for non-cooperation? Nope.
The record to date is appalling. So no your aim is laudable but it does not happen.
Other than last year, when I helped a father rescue his child from the abusive mother who was medicating the child unnecessarily and repeatedly, to the point of a (non-GP- and non-hospital-based) healthcare professional suggesting there was induced illness / Munchausens by Proxy?

77th Brigade

1,071 posts

38 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nickgnome said:
Lots and lots and lots of stuff.
I honest-to-goodness can't figure out if this is a parody account. If it is a wind-up, then "Chapeau"!

dmahon

2,717 posts

65 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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MEC said:
Deaf as in hard of hearing (enough to struggle on a phone).

Old as in no internet/smart phone?


An awful lot I should imagine.
Give up. Nickgnome cannot comprehend anyone with a less than perfect life.

Hes A Menthol

43 posts

35 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Alucidnation said:
Not opening, is that one of the now hundreds of official adverts saying that the vaccines actually increase fertility?

I see there have been around 50 videos, aderts and articles posted on twitter in the last 12 hours saying the same.


Well, that is great, and certainly puts the depopulation concerns to oneside. Looks like Nana will be have more kids now jabbed.
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