CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)
Discussion
77th Brigade said:
Good God!!
Isn't this exactly what 'rogue' doctors have been using to save people as far back as a year ago? The bile, vitriol and invective aimed towards Invermectin, chlorohydroxyquine, budesonide & dexamethasone and those who had the audacity to try it was utterly staggering! Medical licences lost, threats, fake papers and jailed doctors in SA.
Isn't this exactly what Dr Peter Mercola talks passionately about in this early video?
Ignore the headline 'depopulation', just listen to this obvious expert in his field.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archiv...
Exactly, once again, people were saying it was lies when these drugs we know work have been posted on here. Isn't this exactly what 'rogue' doctors have been using to save people as far back as a year ago? The bile, vitriol and invective aimed towards Invermectin, chlorohydroxyquine, budesonide & dexamethasone and those who had the audacity to try it was utterly staggering! Medical licences lost, threats, fake papers and jailed doctors in SA.
Isn't this exactly what Dr Peter Mercola talks passionately about in this early video?
Ignore the headline 'depopulation', just listen to this obvious expert in his field.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archiv...
Who actually has the agenda?
A few on here think if they shout lies loud enough it will get rid of any alternative viewpoint.
It is a discussion. Well it is meant to be.
I will leave this thread now as I enjoy this forum, and other parts very much, and the same few will do what they always do if I stay any longer and reply to them. Especially if that shill Jonesy arrives here.
Well done lads, you have won by shutting down the discussion.
Biker 1 said:
monkfish1 said:
Indeed. Does anyone believe these liars anymore?
Standard procedure. Release some good news stories to keep the masses onside, then a week or two before find a new story to scare them with and extend restrictions.
As they do. Every single time.
DM reporting this also, so must be true(!!!) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9714743/E...Standard procedure. Release some good news stories to keep the masses onside, then a week or two before find a new story to scare them with and extend restrictions.
As they do. Every single time.
Posts above re steroid treatment: health care relative of mine called for this over a year ago & was denounced as as some witchcraft practicing loon....
Feels like the tin hats are going to be really upset when the headline comes true.
johnboy1975 said:
This one I can believe. Obviously we are not in a pandemic now. Evidenced by the lack of excess deaths for the last 12 weeks
WTF has excess deaths to do with being in a pandemic? A pandemic is "“an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people" . It has nothing to do with the severity of the disease; merely it's prevalence. In the UK the Zoe Covid study is estimating there are still around 12k new symptomatic infections a day.So more anecdotal data here but I've got a dozen friends and relatives, and myself with a really bad 'cold' this month
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless and the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless and the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
Edited by R Mutt on Wednesday 23 June 08:34
R Mutt said:
So more anecdotal data here but I've got a dozen friends and relatives, and myself with a really bad 'cold' this month
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
Interesting comment - about a month ago half our staff went down with a really nasty cold, me included. Couple of weeks of snot, coughing, fever, lethargy, aching joints, headache..... Several got tested, all negative for bat-flu. I was quite surprised how quickly it spread - who knows what it really was?None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
plasticpig said:
johnboy1975 said:
This one I can believe. Obviously we are not in a pandemic now. Evidenced by the lack of excess deaths for the last 12 weeks
WTF has excess deaths to do with being in a pandemic? A pandemic is "“an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people" . It has nothing to do with the severity of the disease; merely it's prevalence. In the UK the Zoe Covid study is estimating there are still around 12k new symptomatic infections a day.Biker 1 said:
R Mutt said:
So more anecdotal data here but I've got a dozen friends and relatives, and myself with a really bad 'cold' this month
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
Interesting comment - about a month ago half our staff went down with a really nasty cold, me included. Couple of weeks of snot, coughing, fever, lethargy, aching joints, headache..... Several got tested, all negative for bat-flu. I was quite surprised how quickly it spread - who knows what it really was?None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
I joked to a more COVID conscious friend that I'd have to take a 3rd test as surely there are no other diseases out there right now, and he suggested a PCR test. He's probably got a point.
turbobloke said:
Pupp said:
Interesting to read about inhaled steroid treatment (budesonide, and dexamethasone) being effective.Orange
Man
Bad.
Harrison Bergeron said:
turbobloke said:
Pupp said:
Interesting to read about inhaled steroid treatment (budesonide, and dexamethasone) being effective.Orange
Man
Bad.
I'm curious to see a correlation between positive test results of vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Does the vaccine give more positive results? Not anti-vaxx, 5G rarrrr stuff, you know actual science to see if this is the case.
Ironically in my wife's work place, the main instigator, who is giving her "bantz" for not being jabbed, is off with COVID symptoms and has tested positive, my Mrs............................... Completely fine
I promise that I didn't laugh at the irony.
Ironically in my wife's work place, the main instigator, who is giving her "bantz" for not being jabbed, is off with COVID symptoms and has tested positive, my Mrs............................... Completely fine
I promise that I didn't laugh at the irony. Hes A Menthol said:
77th Brigade said:
Good God!!
Isn't this exactly what 'rogue' doctors have been using to save people as far back as a year ago? The bile, vitriol and invective aimed towards Invermectin, chlorohydroxyquine, budesonide & dexamethasone and those who had the audacity to try it was utterly staggering! Medical licences lost, threats, fake papers and jailed doctors in SA.
Isn't this exactly what Dr Peter Mercola talks passionately about in this early video?
Ignore the headline 'depopulation', just listen to this obvious expert in his field.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archiv...
Exactly, once again, people were saying it was lies when these drugs we know work have been posted on here. Isn't this exactly what 'rogue' doctors have been using to save people as far back as a year ago? The bile, vitriol and invective aimed towards Invermectin, chlorohydroxyquine, budesonide & dexamethasone and those who had the audacity to try it was utterly staggering! Medical licences lost, threats, fake papers and jailed doctors in SA.
Isn't this exactly what Dr Peter Mercola talks passionately about in this early video?
Ignore the headline 'depopulation', just listen to this obvious expert in his field.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archiv...
Who actually has the agenda?
A few on here think if they shout lies loud enough it will get rid of any alternative viewpoint.
It is a discussion. Well it is meant to be.
I will leave this thread now as I enjoy this forum, and other parts very much, and the same few will do what they always do if I stay any longer and reply to them. Especially if that shill Jonesy arrives here.
Well done lads, you have won by shutting down the discussion.
I don't know why because as we progress through this cloud I don't believe that the numbers on the "narrative" side are building. On the contrary, I see many pro-vaxxers now asking "why?".
monkeychild said:
I'm curious to see a correlation between positive test results of vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Does the vaccine give more positive results? Not anti-vaxx, 5G rarrrr stuff, you know actual science to see if this is the case.
Ironically in my wife's work place, the main instigator, who is giving her "bantz" for not being jabbed, is off with COVID symptoms and has tested positive, my Mrs............................... Completely fine I promise that I didn't laugh at the irony.
Apparently depends on the format of testing. There was a report that the PCR testing may indicate positive if the vaccine induced spike were present. Should be an easy search.Ironically in my wife's work place, the main instigator, who is giving her "bantz" for not being jabbed, is off with COVID symptoms and has tested positive, my Mrs............................... Completely fine
I promise that I didn't laugh at the irony. Biker 1 said:
R Mutt said:
So more anecdotal data here but I've got a dozen friends and relatives, and myself with a really bad 'cold' this month
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
Interesting comment - about a month ago half our staff went down with a really nasty cold, me included. Couple of weeks of snot, coughing, fever, lethargy, aching joints, headache..... Several got tested, all negative for bat-flu. I was quite surprised how quickly it spread - who knows what it really was?None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless ad the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
RE: the no jab, no office entry story. Does anyone know of these religious exemptions they talk off? As a self declared agnostic, I’m sure I could be swayed to the idea of an omnipotent power, wink wink!
Venturist said:
I imagine this poster was referring to how restrictions and their continuing is being justified politically by how dangerous and deadly the virus is - whilst the actual data measuring such things, when set in context, shows it’s barely a twitch of the needle.
Maybe. But the government aren't going to stop the quarantine requirements if you get infected and have symptoms. So there is still a large economic impacts involved both for individuals and their employers. Nickgnome said:
So two doses of vaccine reduces infection probability by 80% and chance of hospitalisation by 94%
Apparently around 42,000 hospitalisation to end May prevented by vaccination.
The majority of hospitalisations , over 60% for the Delta variant are unvaccinated if i heard correctly.
Do we know the age of these 60% though? Are they 60+ who refused the vaccine and are now in hospital for Covid symptoms or are they 20-30s who are in hospital for other reasons with no Covid symptoms but a positive test? Apparently around 42,000 hospitalisation to end May prevented by vaccination.
The majority of hospitalisations , over 60% for the Delta variant are unvaccinated if i heard correctly.
We really need that breakdown of admission for Covid vs admission for other reason with Covid+ test that we were promised to get a few weeks back.
R Mutt said:
So more anecdotal data here but I've got a dozen friends and relatives, and myself with a really bad 'cold' this month
None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless and the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
We've both had it, the missus worse than me, both jabbed. Not sure how with all the masks and distancing though. None jabbed that I know of, bar one very recently. All returning negative tests. Several previously infected.
Seems very odd in the Summer. Is the the Delta variant but the home tests are useless and the government are scared to admit it, undermining the whole process, and refusing to acknowledge the existence of prior immunity through infection by highlighting that the new variant evades these antibodies?
Is this what they're scared of? Because it's not the death and hospitalisation figures.
Edited by R Mutt on Wednesday 23 June 08:34
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