CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)
Discussion
77th Brigade said:
Nickgnome said:
A complete off topic response.
Is there no limit to your inanity?
Hi Nick, do you ever consider tempering your responses and perhaps being a little 'nicer'? You've obviously lots to say, but it's apparent to me in a short time that your abrasive, know-it-all tone just irritates the hell out of people. Might be worth a try, non?Is there no limit to your inanity?
bodhi said:
In fact, other than the vaccines, it seems the best prophylactic we have against CV-19, even after all this time, is a packet of Marlboro.
We need a scientific study pitting a pack of Marlboro, Camels, Park Lane and Mayfairs together in order to protect against the worst of Covid 
Carl_Manchester said:
bodhi said:
In fact, other than the vaccines, it seems the best prophylactic we have against CV-19, even after all this time, is a packet of Marlboro.
We need a scientific study pitting a pack of Marlboro, Camels, Park Lane and Mayfairs together in order to protect against the worst of Covid Biker 1 said:
Where on earth does he get the time from??
As I was saying to my granddaughter (did I mention she lives in America?) I often find with people that if only they got up earlier, worked harder and ran and rowed more, they'd have much more time. It's all of their own making, for example, problems with a Covid test, of course down to someone choosing to use the wrong courier. I always find that I never have any problems 
The Don of Croy said:
My money would be on Capstan Full Strength unfiltered. That’ll kill most things.
My money is on Golden Virginia. I use Swan super slim filters to mitigate bat-flu.Incidentally, there was some study in France I think (??) about a year ago, which indicated very low infection rates/serious health complications amongst us smokers. It all went a bit quiet. Are there any stats out there? Of course I appreciate my chances of death by emphasema/cancer are undoubtedly way higher than death by bat-flu.
isaldiri said:
Which as i pointed to Eddiesteadygo on the vaccine thread, large % of people getting rounded up to be jabbed is not at the moment ever going to prove a panacea as long as the politicians keep on obsessing about cases because at some point, like Israel they will run out of adults to get jabbed. What then if cases start rising again as they inevitably will....?
There's the option of jabbing up kids next which they might attempt to further reduce cases - for the time being. But again as I keep on saying, jabbing people to keep infections down isn't a long term solution to keep cases low forever. Well unless one thinks eternally getting booster for everyone is a viable future.
I have a totally different stance on this. The government need to do as much testing as possible and find as many cases as possible. That way can say “ooooh look how many cases there are; but so few people in hospital and hardly anyone is dying. Aren’t we clever politicians for sorting the vaccine rollout”; give the public a pat on the head for getting jabbed and send us on our way with no lockdown restrictions. There's the option of jabbing up kids next which they might attempt to further reduce cases - for the time being. But again as I keep on saying, jabbing people to keep infections down isn't a long term solution to keep cases low forever. Well unless one thinks eternally getting booster for everyone is a viable future.
RSbandit said:
I often wore a cover over my face when snowboarding when it was especially cold...long before Covid...no idea why Gnome would mention it in relation to Covid.
Slight tangent but years ago i got to use a snowmobile bike thing in the arctic through a forest and didnt cover my face up (thought it was unnecessary). Three days my sinuses and throat felt like they’d been set fire to.
V1nce Fox said:
Slight tangent but years ago i got to use a snowmobile bike thing in the arctic through a forest and didnt cover my face up (thought it was unnecessary).
Three days my sinuses and throat felt like they’d been set fire to.
I went sailing in January a couple of years ago. Same effect!Three days my sinuses and throat felt like they’d been set fire to.
plasticpig said:
I have a totally different stance on this. The government need to do as much testing as possible and find as many cases as possible. That way can say “ooooh look how many cases there are; but so few people in hospital and hardly anyone is dying. Aren’t we clever politicians for sorting the vaccine rollout”; give the public a pat on the head for getting jabbed and send us on our way with no lockdown restrictions.
Only problem with that is our friends in the EU see higher cases in the UK and they'll continue to require quarantine if we want to go there...Germany, Italy main ones right now but Merkel was whining today that Portugal wasn't making UK citizens quarantine she wants a blanket policy for all EU countries. It seems vaccines have broken the link between cases and deaths but that doesn't seem to hold much water for Merkel & Co.plasticpig said:
mondeoman said:
How long is it going to eb until you realise that a case is not an infection - the two things are NOT the same. But you keep pushing it...
Yes it is. It's cases of infection, not cases of disease. A case is just a set of criteria used in epidemiological public health surveillance to ascertain whether someone is infected. The criteria are defined by the WHO and for SARS-COV2 it's:
Nickgnome said:
mondeoman said:
As was yours - ski wear is f
k all to do with covid masks
We were discussing masks worn over the mouth.k all to do with covid masksIt did not take long for you to descend into profanity.
plasticpig said:
isaldiri said:
Which as i pointed to Eddiesteadygo on the vaccine thread, large % of people getting rounded up to be jabbed is not at the moment ever going to prove a panacea as long as the politicians keep on obsessing about cases because at some point, like Israel they will run out of adults to get jabbed. What then if cases start rising again as they inevitably will....?
There's the option of jabbing up kids next which they might attempt to further reduce cases - for the time being. But again as I keep on saying, jabbing people to keep infections down isn't a long term solution to keep cases low forever. Well unless one thinks eternally getting booster for everyone is a viable future.
I have a totally different stance on this. The government need to do as much testing as possible and find as many cases as possible. That way can say “ooooh look how many cases there are; but so few people in hospital and hardly anyone is dying. Aren’t we clever politicians for sorting the vaccine rollout”; give the public a pat on the head for getting jabbed and send us on our way with no lockdown restrictions. There's the option of jabbing up kids next which they might attempt to further reduce cases - for the time being. But again as I keep on saying, jabbing people to keep infections down isn't a long term solution to keep cases low forever. Well unless one thinks eternally getting booster for everyone is a viable future.
ok, swear to God this is true...
guy I know has a nasty fall on Sunday morning
his brother takes him to local A&E
yep - both badly ankles, possibly broken, not sure, put in a bed for observation, give him loads of painkillers
...
fast forward a few hours and they make him take a covid test - this apparently turns out to be positive but they won't show him any proof so he gets into a bit of an argument with doctors and nurses and they won't operate or do any close investigation till he tests again
Monday they do two more tests - both come back negative
BUT - they now refuse to operate until he's done another test
He refuses - I know the bloke and he can be very stubborn!
Just had a message from his brother earlier - they still won't operate, have put him in a room on his own, will only communicate with him from a distance and have told he can't have any visitors for 10 days from his date of admission unless he takes another covid test.
WTAF???
guy I know has a nasty fall on Sunday morning
his brother takes him to local A&E
yep - both badly ankles, possibly broken, not sure, put in a bed for observation, give him loads of painkillers
...
fast forward a few hours and they make him take a covid test - this apparently turns out to be positive but they won't show him any proof so he gets into a bit of an argument with doctors and nurses and they won't operate or do any close investigation till he tests again
Monday they do two more tests - both come back negative
BUT - they now refuse to operate until he's done another test
He refuses - I know the bloke and he can be very stubborn!
Just had a message from his brother earlier - they still won't operate, have put him in a room on his own, will only communicate with him from a distance and have told he can't have any visitors for 10 days from his date of admission unless he takes another covid test.
WTAF???
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