Supermarket shortages

[kingston12]

Is there much truth in the article in the Sunday Times today that agency drivers have gone from £350 per day in January to £800+ now?

If so, how does that square with the low permanent rates that have been talked about on this thread? I know there is always an uplift for contractors, but surely no one would work as a permanent driver on that basis?

[wazztie16]

kingston12 said:

Is there much truth in the article in the Sunday Times today that agency drivers have gone from £350 per day in January to £800+ now?

If so, how does that square with the low permanent rates that have been talked about on this thread? I know there is always an uplift for contractors, but surely no one would work as a permanent driver on that basis?

That would be per week I would think.

[kingston12]

wazztie16 said:

kingston12 said:

Is there much truth in the article in the Sunday Times today that agency drivers have gone from £350 per day in January to £800+ now?

If so, how does that square with the low permanent rates that have been talked about on this thread? I know there is always an uplift for contractors, but surely no one would work as a permanent driver on that basis?

That would be per week I would think.

It definitely says per day (I can’t link because I’m reading in the app), but it does seem strange given everything else I’ve read. £350 per week would be really low for agency though, wouldn’t it?

[Monkeylegend]

Went to Sainsburys on Friday and they were even getting short on parking spaces.

[Welshbeef]

kingston12 said:

It definitely says per day (I can’t link because I’m reading in the app), but it does seem strange given everything else I’ve read. £350 per week would be really low for agency though, wouldn’t it?

U.K. minimum wage £8.72 8 hours a day is just about £350/week unskilled labour.

[ambuletz]

on a related note aldi drivers have recieved a pay rise. how much they actually earn...who knows.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58047483

[kingston12]

Welshbeef said:

kingston12 said:

It definitely says per day (I can’t link because I’m reading in the app), but it does seem strange given everything else I’ve read. £350 per week would be really low for agency though, wouldn’t it?

U.K. minimum wage £8.72 8 hours a day is just about £350/week unskilled labour.

Indeed, but according to the BBC article linked by Ambuletz, Aldi drivers earn around twice that amount, so surely agency drivers would earn more than that, just not as.much as £350 per day?

[markcoznottz]

kingston12 said:

Welshbeef said:

kingston12 said:

It definitely says per day (I can’t link because I’m reading in the app), but it does seem strange given everything else I’ve read. £350 per week would be really low for agency though, wouldn’t it?

U.K. minimum wage £8.72 8 hours a day is just about £350/week unskilled labour.

Indeed, but according to the BBC article linked by Ambuletz, Aldi drivers earn around twice that amount, so surely agency drivers would earn more than that, just not as.much as £350 per day?

Agency is not consistent. Aldi is a safe employer but they want to Own you.

[valiant]

markcoznottz said:

kingston12 said:

Welshbeef said:

kingston12 said:

It definitely says per day (I can’t link because I’m reading in the app), but it does seem strange given everything else I’ve read. £350 per week would be really low for agency though, wouldn’t it?

U.K. minimum wage £8.72 8 hours a day is just about £350/week unskilled labour.

Indeed, but according to the BBC article linked by Ambuletz, Aldi drivers earn around twice that amount, so surely agency drivers would earn more than that, just not as.much as £350 per day?

Agency is not consistent. Aldi is a safe employer but they want to Own you.

What the agency charges and what the driver gets can be oceans apart.

[WCZ]

still shortages here in manchester

[bazza white]

kingston12 said:

Is there much truth in the article in the Sunday Times today that agency drivers have gone from £350 per day in January to £800+ now?

If so, how does that square with the low permanent rates that have been talked about on this thread? I know there is always an uplift for contractors, but surely no one would work as a permanent driver on that basis?

One off desperate jobs and that possibly to the agency not a regular daily salary though.


Company we use to transport steel are still advertising £10/hour and wonder why they can't fill positions . The lad who shunts on our site is the most laid back bloke ever, do anything and work any hours asked but even he was pissed off the other day when he asked for a pay rise and got laughed at. They'll regret not giving a small rise to keep decent workers.

[kingston12]

bazza white said:

One off desperate jobs and that possibly to the agency not a regular daily salary though.

That makes more sense - so it is a daily rate but an exceptional and irregular one.

bazza white said:

Company we use to transport steel are still advertising £10/hour and wonder why they can't fill positions . The lad who shunts on our site is the most laid back bloke ever, do anything and work any hours asked but even he was pissed off the other day when he asked for a pay rise and got laughed at. They'll regret not giving a small rise to keep decent workers.

I think they'll regret it. Literally everyone is advertising at the moment - our local ocuncil are advertising for drivers on behalf of their outsourced waste contractors and the next borough have cancelled a lot of their waste collections altogether. I can't see how there is a short term solution either.

[PH4555]

No agency driver is on £350 per day, let alone £800. Miniscule chance of doing £350 for 15 hours on Sunday as a one-off via a very desperate agency client.

[markcoznottz]

bazza white said:

kingston12 said:

Is there much truth in the article in the Sunday Times today that agency drivers have gone from £350 per day in January to £800+ now?

If so, how does that square with the low permanent rates that have been talked about on this thread? I know there is always an uplift for contractors, but surely no one would work as a permanent driver on that basis?

One off desperate jobs and that possibly to the agency not a regular daily salary though.


Company we use to transport steel are still advertising £10/hour and wonder why they can't fill positions . The lad who shunts on our site is the most laid back bloke ever, do anything and work any hours asked but even he was pissed off the other day when he asked for a pay rise and got laughed at. They'll regret not giving a small rise to keep decent workers.

Some hideously old fashioned British businesses out there, not really prepared for the modern world. And still this mentality of ‘we’re paying you too much’.

[speedy_thrills]

markcoznottz said:

Some hideously old fashioned British businesses out there, not really prepared for the modern world. And still this mentality of ‘we’re paying you too much’.

Many younger managers will have very limited experience in an inflationary environment and tight labour market.

The other thing is that people are often reluctant to switch jobs even when it's to their advantage. I seem to recall that the optimum from a salary perspective is switch jobs every 24 to 36 months but average job tenure is more like 5 years. People love to talk the talk but fewer walk the walk in reality.

[skwdenyer]

markcoznottz said:

Some hideously old fashioned British businesses out there, not really prepared for the modern world. And still this mentality of ‘we’re paying you too much’.

True. But I also think you may not understand how unprofitable a vast number of businesses actually are. And how little perceived scope for price inflation exists.

We’re rather caught in a price-profit corner from which it is hard to escape.

[condor]

A lot of single product placing, spaced out in my local Sainsburys today. Some chiller cabinets shut down as not enough stock to fill them.
The Aldi next door, on the other hand, seemed full.

[V8covin]

condor said:

A lot of single product placing, spaced out in my local Sainsburys today. Some chiller cabinets shut down as not enough stock to fill them.
The Aldi next door, on the other hand, seemed full.

Sainsbury's always seem to have trouble filling their shelves,they had empty milk racks even before covid.
My guess is their stock control system is a bit st

[anonymoususer]

People should get off their backsides and start growing their own vegetables.
Grapes and strawberries too

[Twig62]

V8covin said:

condor said:

A lot of single product placing, spaced out in my local Sainsburys today. Some chiller cabinets shut down as not enough stock to fill them.
The Aldi next door, on the other hand, seemed full.

Sainsbury's always seem to have trouble filling their shelves,they had empty milk racks even before covid.
My guess is their stock control system is a bit st

Sainsbury's cut back on staff after the disastrous failed merger with Asda to try and recoup some of the millions it had cost them. Unfortunately this has resulted in empty shelves in their stores for months now as they have too few staff to keep them stocked up.