Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 11

[irc]

Nice line.

"You might think that knowing things like “how many voters are there” is generally taken for granted in most elections outside of Pyongyang, "

https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://www.teleg...

[Rick_1138]

Delightfully hoisted by their own petard...

https://twitter.com/FuelSteel/status/1636142871773...

[Taffer]

tim0409 said:

Sturgeon hinted again today that she thought investing in the yard was the right thing to do to maintain shipbuilding on the Clyde, but I can't see how any sane business requiring a ship to be built in the future would choose Ferguson Marine.

If you want an extension built the first question you ask the builder is to have a look at examples of their previous work... in this case it's not as if Fergusons can hide this debacle from prospective clients.

Tenders for shipbuilding contracts usually ask for previous examples of the yard's work as well......

They'll be angling for the next Calmac contract, which is the small vessel replacement program, but need the present boats out of the way for space to build them. Whether the Scottish Government will force CMAL/Calmac to use Ferguson's for this contract remains to be seen, but the only commercial work they have won recently has been to make bits for the Type 26 frigates, mainly by virtue of every other yard not having the capacity to do the work. Nobody else will touch them, and I don't see that changing.

[hidetheelephants]

tim0409 said:

It’s not SNP bad news, it’s bad news for the people of Scotland, and in this case particularly the island communities. Glad you find it funny.

They were due new ships a decade ago; fleet replacement was behind schedule even then, it just wasn't showing up in excess breakdowns and raised maintenance costs. It's a colossal failure of govt.

[General Price]

hidetheelephants said:

tim0409 said:

It’s not SNP bad news, it’s bad news for the people of Scotland, and in this case particularly the island communities. Glad you find it funny.

They were due new ships a decade ago; fleet replacement was behind schedule even then, it just wasn't showing up in excess breakdowns and raised maintenance costs. It's a colossal failure of govt.

Unfortunately a lot of the island communities vote for them.

[Jenny Tailor]

Another day - confidence in the SNP grows.

[Master Of Puppets]

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251


Edit to add an Effie quote

Effie said:

Teflon Sturgeon could get away with anything as could Teflon Salmond. But Teflon Yousaf, or even Teflon Forbes. No I don't think so. The present SNP scandals are beginning to stick

Edited by Master Of Puppets on Thursday 16th March 19:32

[Jenny Tailor]

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

[Composer62]

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

I have to say she's brilliant when she gets into her stride.

[Desiderata]

NoddyonNitrous said:

So, only 72,186

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64976104

Am I too quick?

Well, if they can stretch a £90m tender to £300m, I'm pretty sure they'll manage to find a few hundred thousand votes for Humza out of 72 thousand voters!

[SpeckledJim]

Composer62 said:

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

I have to say she's brilliant when she gets into her stride.

Too many umms but I have to imagine it would be a huge pleasure to be told off in person by Penny the Hair. She’s lovely. Especially when she’s not cross, just disappointed.

[cuprabob]

Composer62 said:

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

I have to say she's brilliant when she gets into her stride.

It's the way she does without any hint of smugness that you normally get when a politician trys to deliver such lines.

[Hill92]

Taffer said:

Tenders for shipbuilding contracts usually ask for previous examples of the yard's work as well......

They'll be angling for the next Calmac contract, which is the small vessel replacement program, but need the present boats out of the way for space to build them. Whether the Scottish Government will force CMAL/Calmac to use Ferguson's for this contract remains to be seen, but the only commercial work they have won recently has been to make bits for the Type 26 frigates, mainly by virtue of every other yard not having the capacity to do the work. Nobody else will touch them, and I don't see that changing.

Bot even bits apparently. The Audit Scotland/Grant Thornton audit reports published this week said so far the only work with BAE has been to lend 18 staff members to work at the BAE yard.

[dxg]

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251


Edit to add an Effie quote

Effie said:

Teflon Sturgeon could get away with anything as could Teflon Salmond. But Teflon Yousaf, or even Teflon Forbes. No I don't think so. The present SNP scandals are beginning to stick

Edited by Master Of Puppets on Thursday 16th March 19:32

I love her intonation on the last two words. The contempt is clear. She's knows there's nothing of merit there.

[Leithen]

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

She’s very good at the dispatch box. Her shot at leadership however revealed a lack of policy depth and arguably not much political nous. Both could change if she could build a team around her.

[hidetheelephants]

Leithen said:

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

She’s very good at the dispatch box. Her shot at leadership however revealed a lack of policy depth and arguably not much political nous. Both could change if she could build a team around her.

Because the winner had such wondrous policy depth and sooo much political nous.

[sherman]

hidetheelephants said:

Leithen said:

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

She’s very good at the dispatch box. Her shot at leadership however revealed a lack of policy depth and arguably not much political nous. Both could change if she could build a team around her.

Because the winner had such wondrous policy depth and sooo much political nous.

Just a several £B slush fund for his campaign.

[ChocolateFrog]

Rick_1138 said:

Delightfully hoisted by their own petard...

https://twitter.com/FuelSteel/status/1636142871773...

Nothing will happen (obviously) but it's pretty funny all the same.

[ChocolateFrog]

SpeckledJim said:

Composer62 said:

Jenny Tailor said:

Master Of Puppets said:

Penny Mordaunt today absolutely lambasting the SNP in the HoC, She is brilliant at this but this one excels.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1636350019203637251

Next PM material surely.

I have to say she's brilliant when she gets into her stride.

Too many umms but I have to imagine it would be a huge pleasure to be told off in person by Penny the Hair. She’s lovely. Especially when she’s not cross, just disappointed.

It would certainly be a departure from the gurners extraordinaire Truss and May.

She would have been my vote too but that may be a blessing in disguise when Rishi is trounced next year.

[hidetheelephants]

sherman said:

Just a several £B slush fund for his campaign.

His? Are we forgetting the Maggon tribute band?