Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 11

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 11

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NoddyonNitrous

2,119 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Awful story, but I don’t think we can pin it on her MSP.

Pastor Of Muppets

3,267 posts

62 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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NoddyonNitrous said:
Awful story, but I don’t think we can pin it on her MSP.
Maybe but she's the master of puppets and she's pulling the strings.

dxg

8,203 posts

260 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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N7GTX said:
hidetheelephants said:
She was wittering on about energy too, although it was a meaningless word salad of sustainable this, ecological that and efficiency the other; it could have been phoned in by any politician speaking at any event at any time in the last 20 years as there were no specifics about anything. This is the best we've got and it's a load of ste; now she's got little chance of a job at the EU is this her angling for something at the UN or a beltway bandit?
This will fit the agenda of the coalition then. Drax, the biomass power station operator, wants to expand Ben Cruachan by digging out 2 million tons of rock to install a 600 megawatt power station. This will create hundreds of jobs.

Drax's owners are based in bastirt England but no doubt the ruling junta will be fine with this.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-16...
That's a great idea. Hydro is one of the few things that Scotland actually has the natural resources to do. But mammy will bow to the greens and ramblers and their loss of amenity value.

I've given up expecting leadership or even the slightest bit of backbone...

s2kjock

1,685 posts

147 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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Does that form of pumped storage help with the calm day problem that wind power reliance gives? I thought it was more for ad-break-kettle-switch-on surge, or can it provide lower output over the longer term?

sherman

13,264 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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s2kjock said:
Does that form of pumped storage help with the calm day problem that wind power reliance gives? I thought it was more for ad-break-kettle-switch-on surge, or can it provide lower output over the longer term?
Would assume low output could be achieved by only opening the tap a bit and sending it down a small bore pipe to increase pressure

irc

7,306 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th May 2022
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s2kjock said:
Does that form of pumped storage help with the calm day problem that wind power reliance gives? I thought it was more for ad-break-kettle-switch-on surge, or can it provide lower output over the longer term?
The reservoir has 7Gwh of storage. 7Gwh would power Scotland for 2 hours.

As far as I understand the expansion is just building more generators not a bigger reservoir. So the effect will be that it can provide bigger short term balancing. It is not a solution to the fact that wind power regularly produces only a tiny fraction of it's headline power for days at a time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruachan_Power_Stati...

Jenny Tailor

1,727 posts

37 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Jenny Tailor said:
Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
Is that a parody site??

Jenny Tailor

1,727 posts

37 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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OnTheBreadline said:
Jenny Tailor said:
Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
Is that a parody site??
No. It is the official website of the Scottish government.
Here is the policy in English.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...


techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Jenny Tailor said:
OnTheBreadline said:
Jenny Tailor said:
Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
Is that a parody site??
No. It is the official website of the Scottish government.
Here is the policy in English.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
Christ, if that's true, they really are fked.

(Can't wait for the cockney one, 'leeefe it aaahht mate')

FNG

4,176 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Such bks. As though someone from rural Ayrshire talks the same way as someone from the Hebrides or the Edinburgh slums or Berwick or Helensburgh or Kirkcaldy.

It's not Scots, it's a fking accent. Get over yourselves.

Roderick Spode

3,093 posts

49 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Jenny Tailor said:
Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
What utter garbage.

Scoattish Guvviment said:
The Scots leid is only spoken within Scotland and it is no yaised onywhaur else in the warld by a community o significant nummer or extent. Therefore steps maun be taen within Scotland, tae mak its preservation siccar.
Someone best tell the community of Ulster Scots speakers.

N7GTX

7,866 posts

143 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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A.J.M

7,908 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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I’m glad we have turned Scotland into the land of milk and honey having fixed everything else that we can turn so much attention to this matter.

Makes me glad to see my taxes used in such an important way.

General Price

5,251 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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https://youtu.be/d9_DgIqhyCA

Tough interview for Sturgeon.

Evercross

5,967 posts

64 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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FNG said:
Such bks. As though someone from rural Ayrshire talks the same way as someone from the Hebrides or the Edinburgh slums or Berwick or Helensburgh or Kirkcaldy.

It's not Scots, it's a fking accent. Get over yourselves.
Exactly this. That link posted above is not a 'Scots translation', it is an attempt at phonetically spelling the pronunciation of English in a particular example of a Scottish accent. The Scottish accent that has about 5 variations just across the central belt alone, so to try and standardise it is in itself an insult to the hundreds of thousands of Scots who have an accent that isn't the one being presented.

It is fakery of the ultimate sort, intended to give a false image of an "already independent" Scotland to the outside world.

cuprabob

14,626 posts

214 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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General Price said:
https://youtu.be/d9_DgIqhyCA

Tough interview for Sturgeon.
roflrofl

irc

7,306 posts

136 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Reminds me of wjhen people noticed that the Scots wikipaedia was almost entirely written by an American teenager. Nobody had noticed. Shows how releva t Scots is to everyday life.

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/scots-wikiped...

As for the gaelic stuff. My mum was a native speaker. In conversation I remember hearing her talking to her sisters. It was a stream of gaelic mixed with modern words like television etc. They borrowed the words just like English has taken countless words from other languages.

There is no need to invent gaelic versions of these words

98elise

26,600 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Jenny Tailor said:
OnTheBreadline said:
Jenny Tailor said:
Desiderata said:
hiccy18 said:
I'd far rather see the promotion of Scots, which is spoken by a large portion of the country on a daily basis, than seeing the museum piece that is Gaelic splattered all over things that didn't exist a century ago.
I'd agree with you, except that Scots isn't a language. It's a dialect version of the language spoken throughout the UK. Unfortunately someone somewhere chose to name that language "English" so we can't possibly admit to speaking "English" so we've had to invent one "of our own"
Can't wait for all the signage to be updated.

I don't know anyone who speaks like this.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
Is that a parody site??
No. It is the official website of the Scottish government.
Here is the policy in English.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scots-language-p...
That's fking hilarious! Phonetically writing a dialect/accent, and calling it a language! It's just mangled English

Do any Scots actually write English like this?

FNG

4,176 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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I reckon Robert Burns started it.

But only fully fledged wingnuts still do it.
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