Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 11
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A quaistion fur th' foremaist minister. Urr ye accountable fur yer actions? kin ye explain th' cost overrun oan th' twa ferries? or th' thoosans o' deaths in scots care homes?
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A quaistion fur th' foremaist minister. Urr ye accountable fur yer actions? kin ye explain th' cost overrun oan th' twa ferries? or th' thoosans o' deaths in scots care homes?
This is jobby
http://www.scotranslate.com
"So BBC Scotland have actually sent their lead Reporting Scotland presenter to Seville to cover a Rangers match?!" 
SNats spitting their dummies oot their prams all over the place today because the BBC haven't given more coverage to Spludgeons PR stunt in the
USA. You would think there was actually something to report by the way they are acting, poor wee souls, somebody needs to tell them that
the vast majority of people couldn't care less about her pointless wee trip.
I was hoping that when she goes she would send back a letter from America......... Am no coming back. Sturgeon no more...BS no more
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scotti...
SNats spitting their dummies oot their prams all over the place today because the BBC haven't given more coverage to Spludgeons PR stunt in the
USA. You would think there was actually something to report by the way they are acting, poor wee souls, somebody needs to tell them that
the vast majority of people couldn't care less about her pointless wee trip.
I was hoping that when she goes she would send back a letter from America......... Am no coming back. Sturgeon no more...BS no more
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scotti...
BBC actually did a piece on Sturgeons speech here - although i would say its utterly tame and meek, considering its a big party U-turn and the only bit of it critical of it is way way down the end by TOOOORIE scot leader....
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-poli...
imagine if Boris did a sudden U-turn on the EU and decided we want back in, it would be all over the effin press
deadslow said:
rider73 said:
imagine if Boris did a sudden U-turn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10171145/...
Boris is well know for his u-turns and changes of direction, hardly news - although it appears in the Daily Mail, which makes it hardly news. Sturgeon is the queen of unscrutinised u-turns.
SNP nationalised ScotRail axe third of rail services as furious union pay row explodes
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
"The Scottish Government owned operator will axe around a third of timetabled services from next Monday, bosses admitted on Wednesday"
"Less than two months after ScotRail was taken over by the Scottish Government and we can already add it to the mountain of SNP failures on transport.”
And comedy gold...
"Not only are existing passengers being let down by these enormous cuts, but the SNP-Green Government – obsessed with taxing cars off the road – will have no hope of increasing public transport use while it slashes services."
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
"The Scottish Government owned operator will axe around a third of timetabled services from next Monday, bosses admitted on Wednesday"
"Less than two months after ScotRail was taken over by the Scottish Government and we can already add it to the mountain of SNP failures on transport.”
And comedy gold...
"Not only are existing passengers being let down by these enormous cuts, but the SNP-Green Government – obsessed with taxing cars off the road – will have no hope of increasing public transport use while it slashes services."
Edited by Jenny Tailor on Wednesday 18th May 16:53
Jenny Tailor said:
You too can learn Scots.
A quaistion fur th' foremaist minister. Urr ye accountable fur yer actions? kin ye explain th' cost overrun oan th' twa ferries? or th' thoosans o' deaths in scots care homes?
This is jobby
http://www.scotranslate.com
Or alternatively you could rely on the wisdom of a US teenager. Still one of the funniest wiki stories I’ve read.A quaistion fur th' foremaist minister. Urr ye accountable fur yer actions? kin ye explain th' cost overrun oan th' twa ferries? or th' thoosans o' deaths in scots care homes?
This is jobby
http://www.scotranslate.com
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/sh...
Pastor Of Muppets said:
"So BBC Scotland have actually sent their lead Reporting Scotland presenter to Seville to cover a Rangers match?!"
SNats spitting their dummies oot their prams all over the place today because the BBC haven't given more coverage to Spludgeons PR stunt in the
USA. You would think there was actually something to report by the way they are acting, poor wee souls, somebody needs to tell them that
the vast majority of people couldn't care less about her pointless wee trip.
I was hoping that when she goes she would send back a letter from America......... Am no coming back. Sturgeon no more...BS no more
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scotti...
Who is interested in the sporg’s tax payed jolly?SNats spitting their dummies oot their prams all over the place today because the BBC haven't given more coverage to Spludgeons PR stunt in the
USA. You would think there was actually something to report by the way they are acting, poor wee souls, somebody needs to tell them that
the vast majority of people couldn't care less about her pointless wee trip.
I was hoping that when she goes she would send back a letter from America......... Am no coming back. Sturgeon no more...BS no more
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scotti...
Bit like Abbott, waste of space,
Jenny Tailor said:
SNP nationalised ScotRail axe third of rail services as furious union pay row explodes
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
"The Scottish Government owned operator will axe around a third of timetabled services from next Monday, bosses admitted on Wednesday"
"Less than two months after ScotRail was taken over by the Scottish Government and we can already add it to the mountain of SNP failures on transport.”
And comedy gold...
"Not only are existing passengers being let down by these enormous cuts, but the SNP-Green Government – obsessed with taxing cars off the road – will have no hope of increasing public transport use while it slashes services."
Almost as if they didn't consider what negative consequences there might be in the event of nationalising, especially the fact that overtime and manning have been regular sources of industrial action for years.https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
"The Scottish Government owned operator will axe around a third of timetabled services from next Monday, bosses admitted on Wednesday"
"Less than two months after ScotRail was taken over by the Scottish Government and we can already add it to the mountain of SNP failures on transport.”
And comedy gold...
"Not only are existing passengers being let down by these enormous cuts, but the SNP-Green Government – obsessed with taxing cars off the road – will have no hope of increasing public transport use while it slashes services."
Is it a record. Only 7 weeks for the SNP to make a disaster of Scotrail..
So bad that an SNP staffer was ranting about it on twitter.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
So bad that an SNP staffer was ranting about it on twitter.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
irc said:
Is it a record. Only 7 weeks for the SNP to make a disaster of Scotrail..
So bad that an SNP staffer was ranting about it on twitter.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
Surprised it took so long tbh.So bad that an SNP staffer was ranting about it on twitter.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
This of course is only the start of the f
k up they will make of it.Yeah but no but yeah but no. but yeah!!!
The SNP nuclear policy from Nicola "Vicky Pollard" Sturgeon and friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqvF2S7mnKU
"When asked in an interview with the BBC if an independent Scotland would ban any nuclear weapons including, for example, a visiting US nuclear-armed submarine, McDonald would only say that an independent Scotland would not ‘permanently host nuclear weapons from other states.’
This is very different from the SNP’s previous intransigent position on nuclear weapons. Up until now the party has been unequivocal in its insistence that an independent Scotland would ratify the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), otherwise known as ‘the ban treaty’.TPNW is a UN treaty that came into force in January last year. Nicola Sturgeon said at the time that an independent Scotland would be ‘a keen signatory’, adding: ‘The Scottish government thanks and congratulates all the states which have ratified the treaty.’"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-the-snp-now...
Actually Vicky would make an ideal SNP candidate. A higher calibre than many.
The SNP nuclear policy from Nicola "Vicky Pollard" Sturgeon and friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqvF2S7mnKU
"When asked in an interview with the BBC if an independent Scotland would ban any nuclear weapons including, for example, a visiting US nuclear-armed submarine, McDonald would only say that an independent Scotland would not ‘permanently host nuclear weapons from other states.’
This is very different from the SNP’s previous intransigent position on nuclear weapons. Up until now the party has been unequivocal in its insistence that an independent Scotland would ratify the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), otherwise known as ‘the ban treaty’.TPNW is a UN treaty that came into force in January last year. Nicola Sturgeon said at the time that an independent Scotland would be ‘a keen signatory’, adding: ‘The Scottish government thanks and congratulates all the states which have ratified the treaty.’"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-the-snp-now...
Actually Vicky would make an ideal SNP candidate. A higher calibre than many.
i doubt any journalist/opposition will actually ever pin her down on this question.....
i've said it before, personally lets get the Indy vote for '23, then their will actually be a UK wide focus on SNP policy/performance and scandals, as they try and hold their party and the indy YES vote together while navigating questions ranging from NATO to currency to EU acceptance, OIL , as well as the whole raft of issues around scottish security, hard borders with england/uk and where will scotland get its funding to survive the first few decades of Indy.....etc etc
either way, yes or no, might be better for Scottish politics - no will put it to bed for a long time and i suspect see the SNP break apart, YES will bring so much focus to the SNP to deliver without collapsing the country that it might actually lose power to the now IndyLabour....
Rick_1138 said:
Loving the change of timetable with less than a weeks notice and no mention of weekend changes.
My trip to see friends for my 40th may be off if no late train back from Aberdeen, no update on weekend timetable changes yet either.
What a st show
My trip to see friends for my 40th may be off if no late train back from Aberdeen, no update on weekend timetable changes yet either.
What a s
t showI believe this stems from a legacy issue that predates nationalisation.
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 19th May 11:44
I think Foghorn Dreghorn's little taxpayer funded junket to the Good Ol USA may have backfired spectacularly, particularly as she spent most of the time pretending to be a great world leader and stateswoman, hailing from a newly independent sovereign democracy. She and her government are already acting like a new state - embassies, diplomatic visits, official press releases, hobnobbing with international politicians - all on the British Government's £.
This surely must beg the question - why are the British Government allowing this charade to continue? Is it a case of they don't care, or are they allowing the SNP to purposely overstate their case and exceed their limited remit? Like a parent allowing a child to boast and brag about their achievements, before quietly rebuking them in front of their peers to make an example of them?
Perhaps the SNP's hypocritical position on nuclear weapons and NATO membership has highlighted the dangers of encouraging such separatist movements to the US Administration... with our supposed closest ally alerted to the cancer of Scottish Nationalism growing in the British state, perhaps this is the opportunity to teach the SNP a lesson in international diplomacy, and the limits of their remit?
This surely must beg the question - why are the British Government allowing this charade to continue? Is it a case of they don't care, or are they allowing the SNP to purposely overstate their case and exceed their limited remit? Like a parent allowing a child to boast and brag about their achievements, before quietly rebuking them in front of their peers to make an example of them?
Perhaps the SNP's hypocritical position on nuclear weapons and NATO membership has highlighted the dangers of encouraging such separatist movements to the US Administration... with our supposed closest ally alerted to the cancer of Scottish Nationalism growing in the British state, perhaps this is the opportunity to teach the SNP a lesson in international diplomacy, and the limits of their remit?
rider73 said:
i doubt any journalist/opposition will actually ever pin her down on this question.....
i've said it before, personally lets get the Indy vote for '23, then their will actually be a UK wide focus on SNP policy/performance and scandals, as they try and hold their party and the indy YES vote together while navigating questions ranging from NATO to currency to EU acceptance, OIL , as well as the whole raft of issues around scottish security, hard borders with england/uk and where will scotland get its funding to survive the first few decades of Indy.....etc etc
either way, yes or no, might be better for Scottish politics - no will put it to bed for a long time and i suspect see the SNP break apart, YES will bring so much focus to the SNP to deliver without collapsing the country that it might actually lose power to the now IndyLabour....
Roderick Spode said:
I think Foghorn Dreghorn's little taxpayer funded junket to the Good Ol USA may have backfired spectacularly, particularly as she spent most of the time pretending to be a great world leader and stateswoman, hailing from a newly independent sovereign democracy. She and her government are already acting like a new state - embassies, diplomatic visits, official press releases, hobnobbing with international politicians - all on the British Government's .
This surely must beg the question - why are the British Government allowing this charade to continue? Is it a case of they don't care, or are they allowing the SNP to purposely overstate their case and exceed their limited remit? Like a parent allowing a child to boast and brag about their achievements, before quietly rebuking them in front of their peers to make an example of them?
Perhaps the SNP's hypocritical position on nuclear weapons and NATO membership has highlighted the dangers of encouraging such separatist movements to the US Administration... with our supposed closest ally alerted to the cancer of Scottish Nationalism growing in the British state, perhaps this is the opportunity to teach the SNP a lesson in international diplomacy, and the limits of their remit?
This surely must beg the question - why are the British Government allowing this charade to continue? Is it a case of they don't care, or are they allowing the SNP to purposely overstate their case and exceed their limited remit? Like a parent allowing a child to boast and brag about their achievements, before quietly rebuking them in front of their peers to make an example of them?
Perhaps the SNP's hypocritical position on nuclear weapons and NATO membership has highlighted the dangers of encouraging such separatist movements to the US Administration... with our supposed closest ally alerted to the cancer of Scottish Nationalism growing in the British state, perhaps this is the opportunity to teach the SNP a lesson in international diplomacy, and the limits of their remit?
A strong SNP = A weak Labour party
The SNP are the Tories' Useful Idiots. There's zero real risk of Independence at the moment, but every SNP vote is a vote Labour have lost, so let them have their noisy, destructive, fun.
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