Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 11

[hidetheelephants]

sherman said:

Blackford was on the News tonight.
Is he going to resign before Boris does?

Vile enabler of sexual predators should be flung in the Thames. He had the brass neck to defend himself on the news.

[Viper201]

Krankie is backing Billy Bunter. More concerned about the leak. Hardly surprising from these obnoxious tts politicians.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20231116.n...

[General Price]

Viper201 said:

Krankie is backing Billy Bunter. More concerned about the leak. Hardly surprising from these obnoxious tts politicians.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20231116.n...

From a party that wants to question kids about anal sex,what would you expect?

I can't believe it's not headline news in Scotland.

Getting more like China everyday.

The news is what I say it is.

[Evercross]

Meanwhile, Patricia Gibson gets off on a technicality because the account of her alleged actions recorded by the SNP chief whip at the time (a certain Patrick Grady MP) conflicted with the account recorded by the Independent Standards Committee.

It seems Grady played-down the incident and didn't take note of the sexual language Gibson was alleged to have used, accepting her defence that she was too drunk to remember.

Standards Committee were therefor obliged to drop her case.

SNP - the Sleazy Nonce Party.

ETA. The thing I am finding strangest of all about this is that Gray is clearly a problem for the SNP. The man has questionable judgement and while he hangs around it will be bad for the on-going public perception of the party.

He's not exactly a big-hitter so why the depth of loyalty to him? It would have been better for all concerned if he had been asked to 'consider his position' - it would have been the correct thing morally and the party would win in the public eye for being decisive against sleaze (in the way other parties aren't). Tactically this is appalling for the SNP - are they so arrogant and full of self belief that they think this is just fine?

Edited by Evercross on Friday 24th June 10:43

[biggbn]

Evercross said:

Meanwhile, Patricia Gibson gets off on a technicality because the account of her alleged actions recorded by the SNP chief whip at the time (a certain Patrick Grady MP) conflicted with the account recorded by the Independent Standards Committee.

It seems Grady played-down the incident and didn't take note of the sexual language Gibson was alleged to have used, accepting her defence that she was too drunk to remember.

Standards Committee were therefor obliged to drop her case.

SNP - the Sleazy Nonce Party.

ETA. The thing I am finding strangest of all about this is that Gray is clearly a problem for the SNP. The man has questionable judgement and while he hangs around it will be bad for the on-going public perception of the party.

He's not exactly a big-hitter so why the depth of loyalty to him? It would have been better for all concerned if he had been asked to 'consider his position' - it would have been the correct thing morally and the party would win in the public eye for being decisive against sleaze (in the way other parties aren't). Tactically this is appalling for the SNP - are they so arrogant and full of self belief that they think this is just fine?

Edited by Evercross on Friday 24th June 10:43

Perhaps he has knowledge of the whereabouts of party skeletons and has the key to the closet they are in?

[Pastor Of Muppets]

Wouldn't matter what skeletons she had because as we all now know she is a strong charismatic leader who can do no wrong in the eyes of the
euchred hornswogglers.

Of course the actual reality for the vast majority is her having the charisma of a rat in a wheelie bin.

[Evercross]

biggbn said:

Perhaps he has knowledge of the whereabouts of party skeletons and has the key to the closet they are in?

I suppose it could be that, as generally Party Chief Whips (of all colours) are the people who have the leverage to keep MPs in line. I'm also of the mindset that it is more likely to be cock-up than conspiracy - I've proffered many times in these annals the notion that the SNP is politically immature (despite over a decade in power) and there are many signs of this such as the lack of internal accountability, a line of succession for leadership rather than a genuine competition/meritocracy, and a distinct lack of rigour in the selection process of many candidates who eventually became SNP MPs/MSPs, often against their and the party's expectations.

It is why the SNP ended up with rogues like Natalie McGarry and Derek MacKay representing them at the upper levels, plus Mhairi Black has said many times that if she knew she would win against the Labour stalwart Douglas Alexander she probably wouldn't have entered the race in the first place (a damning blight on her tenure that will never go away and shames the people who continue to vote for her BTW).

Every political party has its chancers, but the SNP feel the need to hold on to them to maintain their own false sense of moral superiority, the irony being that their refusal to publicly throw away their known garbage is now doing them more harm than good.

[hidetheelephants]

A reminder of how much of a st Blackford is.

Evercross said:

It is why the SNP ended up with rogues like Natalie McGarry and Derek MacKay representing them at the upper levels, plus Mhairi Black has said many times that if she knew she would win against the Labour stalwart Douglas Alexander she probably wouldn't have entered the race in the first place (a damning blight on her tenure that will never go away and shames the people who continue to vote for her BTW)..

Their ranks were leavened with diddies because they never expected anything like the 2015 result and getting half-decent candidates to stand for the express purpose of losing heroically is a common problem to all parties, so anyone with a pulse who volunteered was handed a job in 'the great SLAB clearance sale'; the surprise is they got so few liabilities, not so many. Mackay was being groomed(irony alert) for leadership at one point, he was elected to Holyrood much earlier.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Friday 24th June 13:32

[pquinn]

hidetheelephants said:

A reminder of how much of a st Blackford is.

While Blackford is a massive st, did anyone really expect him to keep pretending that the issue didn't exist? With all those well known problems Kennedy was free not to stand for re-election and maybe those close to him should have steered him that way instead of keeping a very unwell man in a public post that he couldn't properly carry out. They all looked the other way instead.

Obviously that was just one of many stty things Blackford has done in a long list of them, but I don't see that particular one as being as bad as say the things he's done in the past weeks.

[hidetheelephants]

Guy's a massive st, surprised you're defending him.

[pquinn]

hidetheelephants said:

Guy's a massive st, surprised you're defending him.

Guy's a massive st, but people are deflecting blame for Kennedy onto a big bloated target instead of maybe acknowledging some blame lies elsewhere too. They put a non-functional alcoholic back up for election, pretended all was fine and were then horrified that it ended badly.

Blackford might be an awful but what game exactly were they expecting him or anyone else to play?


Anyway Blackford has done enough just this month that the greasy turd should have his career terminated without needing to dig back to 2015.

[Roderick Spode]

Evercross said:

plus Mhairi Black has said many times that if she knew she would win against the Labour stalwart Douglas Alexander she probably wouldn't have entered the race in the first place (a damning blight on her tenure that will never go away and shames the people who continue to vote for her BTW).

Don't forget M'hairy Back and her endorsement for Flowjob, the drag queen who was ushered into a primary school to read to young children. Sexual degeneracy and some very questionable moral standards being promoted to impressionable schoolchildren, and anyone who dared question it was denounced as a transphobe, a TERF, a homophobe by an elected MP. People are judged by the company they keep - I would suggest Ms Black has very poor judgement indeed. The SNP is stuffed with degenerates and perverts at all levels of the party.

[irc]

Roderick Spode said:

Don't forget M'hairy Back and her endorsement for Flowjob, the drag queen who was ushered into a primary school to read to young children. Sexual degeneracy and some very questionable moral standards being promoted to impressionable schoolchildren, and anyone who dared question it was denounced as a transphobe, a TERF, a homophobe by an elected MP. People are judged by the company they keep - I would suggest Ms Black has very poor judgement indeed. The SNP is stuffed with degenerates and perverts at all levels of the party.

To be fair if that is what the people of Paisley want then that is what they get. She got more than half the vote in 2019. She isn't hiding any of her views. It's the 21st Century version of the former west of Scotland Labour anything with a red rosette syndrome.

Im reminded of when Springburn was represented at Westminster by Michael Martin and at Holyrood by his son Peter Martin. Peter obviously got the job on ability not who his father was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Martin,_Baro...

Not that Labour are the only party keeping it in the family.

Winnie Ewing also had talented kids.

" Her son Fergus Ewing serves as SNP MSP, as did his wife Margaret Ewing, and her daughter Annabelle Ewing, "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_Ewing

[cuprabob]

At least we can be thankful Wee Krankie doesn't have any kids...

[750turbo]

Another fabulous turnout for All under One Braincell today in Stirling....

430, not including dugs

When will they admit the game is up? (Oh and all they could do was shout abuse at BJ.)

[biggbn]

Roderick Spode said:

Don't forget M'hairy Back and her endorsement for Flowjob, the drag queen who was ushered into a primary school to read to young children. Sexual degeneracy and some very questionable moral standards being promoted to impressionable schoolchildren, and anyone who dared question it was denounced as a transphobe, a TERF, a homophobe by an elected MP. People are judged by the company they keep - I would suggest Ms Black has very poor judgement indeed. The SNP is stuffed with degenerates and perverts at all levels of the party.

Sexual degeneracy? Can you expand on that please?

[A.J.M]

430?

Jesus, all that time and effort for 430 people to slabber about Boris.
Do they think Nippy and co are going to lead to the promised land?

Also, when will the Scottish media grow a pair and start to properly criticise them

[General Price]

I've just had a read of The National website.

The stories and the comments are asounding.

Could someone tell me where this amazing Scotland is with it's outstanding leadership?

I only know of the one north of Gretna.

[irc]

General Price said:

Could someone tell me where this amazing Scotland is with it's outstanding leadership?

I only know of the one north of Gretna.

I've just added your name to the list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1HwKA0J-gU

[Monsterlime]

SNP supporter(s) admit they just vote for the SNP without paying attention to what the politician stands for, then get upset - https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/vkgj0y/...

There are now two threads on that subject on r/Scotland, and it seems like most of the posters do the same as the Op - vote for the party, not the person. While I would assume this the same for most people no matter the party, this time it has backfired and this guy has been elected 8 times!