Therese Coffey on removal of universal credit uplift
Discussion
What planet is she on where those who are the most in need of this support can simply ask to work a few more hours every week and be told "yes that's fine" every week?
Universal Credit: Cut is two hours extra work for claimants, says Therese Coffey
Every time she appears on the media it's an utter car crash.
Universal Credit: Cut is two hours extra work for claimants, says Therese Coffey
Every time she appears on the media it's an utter car crash.
The media seems to be getting all excited about this like people are having money taken away from them. Too many are seeing this as an opportunity to get their name out there by saying some really cringe worthy crap about it all.
Fact of the matter is - the money was extra to what they were getting, So they'll be back to getting the same as what they were used to.
Benefits for people who are able to work should be a stop-gap, not a way of life, imo.
Fact of the matter is - the money was extra to what they were getting, So they'll be back to getting the same as what they were used to.
Benefits for people who are able to work should be a stop-gap, not a way of life, imo.
LargeRed said:
"Labour called the minister's remarks "an insult to hard working families"."
If they were hard working they wouldn't be on 'The Universally Accredited system.'
40% of universal credit claimants are working, companies use it to supplement wages.If they were hard working they wouldn't be on 'The Universally Accredited system.'
My partner has been signed off and claiming UC since last Jan. It's going to be noticeable when she loses that money but we'll manage. Something a lot of people can't say.
Let's not forget that the people in work who are affected by this will be most affected by the NI rise. It's almost like the tories hate the working poor.
Edited by ZedLeg on Monday 13th September 16:18
ZedLeg said:
40% of universal credit claimants are working, companies use it to supplement wages.
My partner has been signed off and claiming UC since last Jan. It's going to be noticeable when she loses that money but we'll manage. Something a lot of people can't say.
Let's not forget that the people in work who are affected by this will be most affected by the NI rise. It's almost like the tories hate the working poor.
it was extra, paid during covid - now it's being removed. it was never a thing, why can't people just be thankful they got it for as long as they did?My partner has been signed off and claiming UC since last Jan. It's going to be noticeable when she loses that money but we'll manage. Something a lot of people can't say.
Let's not forget that the people in work who are affected by this will be most affected by the NI rise. It's almost like the tories hate the working poor.
Edited by ZedLeg on Monday 13th September 16:18
Give an inch for a year and they expect a mile, forever.
hyphen said:
ZedLeg said:
40% of universal credit claimants are working, companies use it to supplement wages.
UC if the claimant has kids can be very generous. If don't have kids then they don't give a lot.My partner doesn't get a lot due to getting means tested against my salary, doesn't even cover their half of the rent and bills
Pixelpeep 135 said:
The media seems to be getting all excited about this like people are having money taken away from them. Too many are seeing this as an opportunity to get their name out there by saying some really cringe worthy crap about it all.
Fact of the matter is - the money was extra to what they were getting, So they'll be back to getting the same as what they were used to.
Benefits for people who are able to work should be a stop-gap, not a way of life, imo.
It was an extra while the economy was struggling during lockdown. With the justified reason that you would struggle to pick up extra work with so many companies on reduced activity.Fact of the matter is - the money was extra to what they were getting, So they'll be back to getting the same as what they were used to.
Benefits for people who are able to work should be a stop-gap, not a way of life, imo.
Now there are many sectors crying out for workers and wages are rising rapidly. So go out there and earn the cash seems fully appropriate.
Bonus points if any of the whingers about her comments were also moaning about the NI rise a few days back. Where do they think the money comes from?
ZedLeg said:
LargeRed said:
"Labour called the minister's remarks "an insult to hard working families"."
If they were hard working they wouldn't be on 'The Universally Accredited system.'
40% of universal credit claimants are working, companies use it to supplement wages.If they were hard working they wouldn't be on 'The Universally Accredited system.'
My partner has been signed off and claiming UC since last Jan. It's going to be noticeable when she loses that money but we'll manage. Something a lot of people can't say.
Let's not forget that the people in work who are affected by this will be most affected by the NI rise. It's almost like the tories hate the working poor.
Edited by ZedLeg on Monday 13th September 16:18
My son was on UC and then started working at Aldi full time, so now gets zero benefits.
Companies that run zero hour contracts cut people's hours and tell them to go on UC to make up the loss.
You probably won't see that as supplementing wages but this combination of zero hour contracts and reliance on benefits keeps people stuck in precarious employment that benefits the company more than it does the worker.
You probably won't see that as supplementing wages but this combination of zero hour contracts and reliance on benefits keeps people stuck in precarious employment that benefits the company more than it does the worker.
ZedLeg said:
Companies that run zero hour contracts cut people's hours and tell them to go on UC to make up the loss.
You probably won't see that as supplementing wages but this combination of zero hour contracts and reliance on benefits keeps people stuck in precarious employment that benefits the company more than it does the worker.
That may well be the case but less than 3% of workers are on zero hours contracts and many of those who are on zero hours contracts are students and the like for whom it is appropriate. You probably won't see that as supplementing wages but this combination of zero hour contracts and reliance on benefits keeps people stuck in precarious employment that benefits the company more than it does the worker.
Biggy Stardust said:
Amazing that this take still comes up.There has to be people to do the bottom rung jobs, shouldn't they earn a decent wage.
Same goes for benefits, UBI trials have shown that giving poor people enough money to cover their bills etc makes them more likely to go out and do something productive as they're not sick with stress.
ZedLeg said:
Amazing that this take still comes up.
There has to be people to do the bottom rung jobs, shouldn't they earn a decent wage.
Same goes for benefits, UBI trials have shown that giving poor people enough money to cover their bills etc makes them more likely to go out and do something productive as they're not sick with stress.
Basic job, basic wage. Better job for better wage. It's a simple concept.There has to be people to do the bottom rung jobs, shouldn't they earn a decent wage.
Same goes for benefits, UBI trials have shown that giving poor people enough money to cover their bills etc makes them more likely to go out and do something productive as they're not sick with stress.
Benefits should be a safety net but too many think it should be a hammock.
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