BP & Esso having fuel supply issues

BP & Esso having fuel supply issues

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B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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GrumpyV8 said:

Using above table, inflation websites and because I have nothing better to do (!) the most expensive fuel was in 2013 at £7.42 per gallon, whilst the cheapest was in 1992 at £3.88 per gallon (figures adjusted for inflation of course!). Fairly expensive in 1985 at £6.06 per gallon also. Any errors please accept my apologies.
How do your results differ from the original table which did something similar? (I just didn’t use those columns)

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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steve-V8s said:
When I started buying 4star it was 24p gallon, which was the same as a pint in the local. Not entirely certain what a pint costs now but think for a while they tracked each other for price.


Not a million miles off now - £5.50 for a pint of lager is unfortunately too common around my way.

38911

764 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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GrumpyV8 said:

Using above table, inflation websites and because I have nothing better to do (!) the most expensive fuel was in 2013 at £7.42 per gallon, whilst the cheapest was in 1992 at £3.88 per gallon (figures adjusted for inflation of course!). Fairly expensive in 1985 at £6.06 per gallon also. Any errors please accept my apologies.
Adjusted for inflation, I worked out 2011 as being the most expensive at £7.61 per gallon (167.6p a litre) in todays money.

Adjusted for inflation, fuel is currently cheaper than is was in 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2008, 2006, 2000 and 1985.

If you further adjust to take into account the average economy of petrol vehicles (ignoring hybrids), fuel is cheaper than it's been for the last 20-odd years in terms of £ per mile.

GrumpyV8

138 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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38911 said:
Adjusted for inflation, I worked out 2011 as being the most expensive at £7.61 per gallon (167.6p a litre) in todays money.

Adjusted for inflation, fuel is currently cheaper than is was in 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2008, 2006, 2000 and 1985.

If you further adjust to take into account the average economy of petrol vehicles (ignoring hybrids), fuel is cheaper than it's been for the last 20-odd years in terms of £ per mile.
There were (are?) 2 different rates of inflation %. One is CPI the other RPI. I think I used the CPI rates which tend to be lower than RPI. Whatever, cost of fuel is relatively low in recent years.

38911

764 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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GrumpyV8 said:
38911 said:
Adjusted for inflation, I worked out 2011 as being the most expensive at £7.61 per gallon (167.6p a litre) in todays money.

Adjusted for inflation, fuel is currently cheaper than is was in 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2008, 2006, 2000 and 1985.

If you further adjust to take into account the average economy of petrol vehicles (ignoring hybrids), fuel is cheaper than it's been for the last 20-odd years in terms of £ per mile.
There were (are?) 2 different rates of inflation %. One is CPI the other RPI. I think I used the CPI rates which tend to be lower than RPI. Whatever, cost of fuel is relatively low in recent years.
Agreed

M1AGM

2,363 posts

33 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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38911 said:
GrumpyV8 said:

Using above table, inflation websites and because I have nothing better to do (!) the most expensive fuel was in 2013 at £7.42 per gallon, whilst the cheapest was in 1992 at £3.88 per gallon (figures adjusted for inflation of course!). Fairly expensive in 1985 at £6.06 per gallon also. Any errors please accept my apologies.
Adjusted for inflation, I worked out 2011 as being the most expensive at £7.61 per gallon (167.6p a litre) in todays money.

Adjusted for inflation, fuel is currently cheaper than is was in 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2008, 2006, 2000 and 1985.

If you further adjust to take into account the average economy of petrol vehicles (ignoring hybrids), fuel is cheaper than it's been for the last 20-odd years in terms of £ per mile.
Thanks for working this out. I was thinking ‘adjusted for inflation’ looking at those numbers last night it probably wasn’t bad at all.

rjfp1962

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7,768 posts

74 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Stocks back to normal now......! smile

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58991951

GT03ROB

13,270 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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rjfp1962 said:
Stocks back to normal now......! smile

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58991951
So whats changed....... yep .... nothing....... self fulfilling prophecy...

FazerBoy

954 posts

151 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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GT03ROB said:
So whats changed....... yep .... nothing....... self fulfilling prophecy...
Totally due to media hype and panic buying by stupid people…

Ari

19,350 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
Vanden Saab said:
less than 4 weeks since this all started and there is now no shortage of fuel at the pumps... what happened to the lack of drivers leading to shortages?
I'm sure all the posters going on about a structural supply issue will be along to answer you shortly.

plenty

4,697 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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untakenname said:
It's a highly strung EJ20 running two decades old engine management that's been mapped for performance, even the stock Japanese STI's (especially Foresters for some reason) will implode in less than one tank of normal unleaded so I'm not risking it.
I don't trust modern octane boosters.
I've used NF Nitrous Formula for many thousands of miles with various highly-strung EJ20s and haven't had an engine let go yetsmile

Carl_Manchester

12,240 posts

263 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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rjfp1962 said:
Stocks back to normal now......! smile

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58991951
  • grumpy not surprised face*
Yours,

Harold, Tunbridge Wells.


944 Man

1,744 posts

133 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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plenty said:
I've used NF Nitrous Formula for many thousands of miles with various highly-strung EJ20s and haven't had an engine let go yetsmile
NF stopped being good in around 2007.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!

Halmyre

11,219 posts

140 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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poo at Paul's said:
Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!
Diesel at my local Tesco went from 136.9/l to 144.9/l in just over two weeks.

Murph7355

37,762 posts

257 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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poo at Paul's said:
Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!
I didn't think anyone bought "super diesel".

SUL is around £1.45 here. Diesel around £1.40.

Oil prices have been rising a good chunk recently. I think down to us leaving the EU or FoML biggrin

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Halmyre said:
Diesel at my local Tesco went from 136.9/l to 144.9/l in just over two weeks.
Same here. I swore I wouldn't let the car go below a quarter tank again, just in case the world loses it's marbles once more. But here I am with less than 50 miles estimated range remaining. Why? Because prices had gone up and I presumed that was to do with taking advantage of the spike in demand. But now, despite demand (anecdotally at least) easing back, prices only seem to be going one way, and it's definitely an upward trajectory. I feel like a fool now for not topping up from half a tank last week when it was 2p per litre cheaper.

I'm sure I can get it cheaper a few miles up the road, but it seems daft to go using up fuel to chase cheaper prices when the saving may only be around 70p to £1.40 per tank at most. Especially when the cheaper prices are usually off in a direction I seldom really need to go.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Murph7355 said:
poo at Paul's said:
Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!
I didn't think anyone bought "super diesel".

SUL is around £1.45 here. Diesel around £1.40.

Oil prices have been rising a good chunk recently. I think down to us leaving the EU or FoML biggrin
Sunlit uplands innit!

steveo3002

10,537 posts

175 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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drove to Newmarket this morning , was into the red so needed to fill up , shell close , bp had the yellow pump out use things on....luckily tesco had some fuel , not sure what was going on there

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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fking hell, this is a new one.

Came to get petrol and they've just coned off all the pumps and told us to wait for the forecourt to clear whilst they update the prices.