BP & Esso having fuel supply issues
Discussion
Newarch said:
Murph7355 said:
poo at Paul's said:
Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!
I didn't think anyone bought "super diesel".SUL is around £1.45 here. Diesel around £1.40.
Oil prices have been rising a good chunk recently. I think down to us leaving the EU or FoML
Nationalised industry where I live.
Govt responsible for the one petrol company, although it is run by managers employed by the entity itself.
They run the processing, delivery system and the petrol stations.
You pay the same price in a small town as you would on a highway.
No shop attached, but often a minimart on the forecourt. This will be a separate business but paying rent to the station.
Pay at pump only and you don’t even have to get out of the car.
Currently = £0.58 a litre.
Price dropped a touch to aid people during the pandemic.
A proposed small price increase did not get far in Parliament!
Makes the whole petrol buying experience so much nicer and easier.
I have yet to see a downside….although I’m sure for the economy as a whole there may be negative impact.
Govt responsible for the one petrol company, although it is run by managers employed by the entity itself.
They run the processing, delivery system and the petrol stations.
You pay the same price in a small town as you would on a highway.
No shop attached, but often a minimart on the forecourt. This will be a separate business but paying rent to the station.
Pay at pump only and you don’t even have to get out of the car.
Currently = £0.58 a litre.
Price dropped a touch to aid people during the pandemic.
A proposed small price increase did not get far in Parliament!
Makes the whole petrol buying experience so much nicer and easier.
I have yet to see a downside….although I’m sure for the economy as a whole there may be negative impact.
Edited by jdw100 on Sunday 31st October 04:49
poo at Paul's said:
Stocks may be back to normal, but has anyone seen the prices drop back to normal? ROund mine, the inflated prices which went up about 15% during the fuel crisis have remained. Super unleaded is 160 odd and super diesel near 180!
The crazy thing is that there's not much of a price differential between the supermarket sites and the uber expensive motorway sites. I've seen supermarkets pricing at 147.9 (Asda excpeted as they price nationally), but it's only 10p more per litre on the motorway. Months go the price differential could have been as much as 30p per litre.
Thankyou4calling said:
40p a litre here in Qatar and of course forecourt service.
Windows cleaned, gas pumped, oil, water and screenwash checked.
Much more civilised. Windows cleaned, gas pumped, oil, water and screenwash checked.
When I fill up my bike here (£1.50 from empty) I can’t go as far as to let them remove the petrol cap.
Some people just hand over the key…. that’s just too much for me.
I don’t even have to get off the bike though.
If there hasn't been a real blip either way pound/dollar has been 'steady' around the 1.36 point for about 8-10 weeks ( may even be longer)
has anyone got a oil/dollar price over the same period.. has it really gone up that much?
And lastly can anyone explain this
Sainsburys Bracknell on Tues diesel 1.47 litre
no more than 10 miles doen the A322 to guildford
Sainsburys diesel 1.43
How the JF can they justify an addtl 4p per litre delivery??? At that distance i would still be in profit to go and get the cheaper and a large fill
has anyone got a oil/dollar price over the same period.. has it really gone up that much?
And lastly can anyone explain this
Sainsburys Bracknell on Tues diesel 1.47 litre
no more than 10 miles doen the A322 to guildford
Sainsburys diesel 1.43
How the JF can they justify an addtl 4p per litre delivery??? At that distance i would still be in profit to go and get the cheaper and a large fill
silverfoxcc said:
If there hasn't been a real blip either way pound/dollar has been 'steady' around the 1.36 point for about 8-10 weeks ( may even be longer)
has anyone got a oil/dollar price over the same period.. has it really gone up that much?
And lastly can anyone explain this
Sainsburys Bracknell on Tues diesel 1.47 litre
no more than 10 miles doen the A322 to guildford
Sainsburys diesel 1.43
How the JF can they justify an addtl 4p per litre delivery??? At that distance i would still be in profit to go and get the cheaper and a large fill
What has delivery got to do with it? Its a free market. They'll be pricing as they see fit for the location - same as everyone else.has anyone got a oil/dollar price over the same period.. has it really gone up that much?
And lastly can anyone explain this
Sainsburys Bracknell on Tues diesel 1.47 litre
no more than 10 miles doen the A322 to guildford
Sainsburys diesel 1.43
How the JF can they justify an addtl 4p per litre delivery??? At that distance i would still be in profit to go and get the cheaper and a large fill
Murph7355 said:
I know. I really wish we could invent a time machine so we can go back in time, I can change my vote and companies like BP can continue to be logistics masterminds rather than having to wear the dunce cap.
The BP that has no logistics because they contract that out - like pretty much everyone else?OK.
Roman Rhodes said:
What has delivery got to do with it? Its a free market. They'll be pricing as they see fit for the location - same as everyone else.
If that is the case, why do they not prrice EVERYTHING they sell to suit the location.. Food prices are common throught the system why not petrol? and have yhou noticed tht when one garage raises it price, they all do. Ehy not keep it a few pence cheaper ( like they did when they ( the big supermarkets) srated in the fuel business.. Some bollody illogical thinking to meOh Joes garage has upped his price, we better do the same in case we lose customers..
silverfoxcc said:
If that is the case, why do they not prrice EVERYTHING they sell to suit the location.. Food prices are common throught the system why not petrol? and have yhou noticed tht when one garage raises it price, they all do. Ehy not keep it a few pence cheaper ( like they did when they ( the big supermarkets) srated in the fuel business.. Some bollody illogical thinking to me
Oh Joes garage has upped his price, we better do the same in case we lose customers..
Really not sure why - but annoyed me this weekend as I filled up at £1.51 at the (usually) cheapest place in town, then drove out towards Reading and it was 4p cheaper a litre at the place on the A4 that's usually more expensive! Sadly we've not got a nearby giant supermarket with fuel to keep the local prices honest. Oh Joes garage has upped his price, we better do the same in case we lose customers..
silverfoxcc said:
Roman Rhodes said:
What has delivery got to do with it? Its a free market. They'll be pricing as they see fit for the location - same as everyone else.
If that is the case, why do they not prrice EVERYTHING they sell to suit the location.. Food prices are common throught the system why not petrol? and have yhou noticed tht when one garage raises it price, they all do. Ehy not keep it a few pence cheaper ( like they did when they ( the big supermarkets) srated in the fuel business.. Some bollody illogical thinking to meOh Joes garage has upped his price, we better do the same in case we lose customers..
Roman Rhodes said:
Murph7355 said:
I know. I really wish we could invent a time machine so we can go back in time, I can change my vote and companies like BP can continue to be logistics masterminds rather than having to wear the dunce cap.
The BP that has no logistics because they contract that out - like pretty much everyone else?OK.
etc.
Murph7355 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Murph7355 said:
I know. I really wish we could invent a time machine so we can go back in time, I can change my vote and companies like BP can continue to be logistics masterminds rather than having to wear the dunce cap.
The BP that has no logistics because they contract that out - like pretty much everyone else?OK.
etc.
Same people? Many companies use Hoyer.
Same price? Is that how you'd run a business - "please don't charge me less than my competitors"?
What "requirements" do you think they've skimped on?
Roman Rhodes said:
Competitive tender.
Same people? Many companies use Hoyer.
Same price? Is that how you'd run a business - "please don't charge me less than my competitors"?
What "requirements" do you think they've skimped on?
There was fuel at the terminals and they were the ones that precipitated the trouble, AIUI, in noting that a number (small AIUI) of their stations were low on fuel.Same people? Many companies use Hoyer.
Same price? Is that how you'd run a business - "please don't charge me less than my competitors"?
What "requirements" do you think they've skimped on?
If that was the case, they clearly weren't doing everything the same as their competitors.
Do we not think its got to the point now where its actually ridiculously expensive?
When it was 1 20 or 1 30 ltr it was bad but whatever. Now look at the pump price and glad I don't fill up my little 40mpg eco turd that often. Would not want to be commuting in an e92 m3 like I was a few years ago once a week filling up after draining the tank in 200 miles.
Not sure what it was when I started driving. 88p ltr maybe.
This is from someone with a decent income too. Well I thought it was decent. I guess money is now worthless
When it was 1 20 or 1 30 ltr it was bad but whatever. Now look at the pump price and glad I don't fill up my little 40mpg eco turd that often. Would not want to be commuting in an e92 m3 like I was a few years ago once a week filling up after draining the tank in 200 miles.
Not sure what it was when I started driving. 88p ltr maybe.
This is from someone with a decent income too. Well I thought it was decent. I guess money is now worthless
Bathroom_Security said:
Do we not think its got to the point now where its actually ridiculously expensive?
Thing is, it's not, not really. I mean it's not cheap, but in real terms (adjusted for inflation) it's no more expensive than the peaks of 10 or 20 years ago (or most of the 80s for that matter!) 
Murph7355 said:
Roman Rhodes said:
Competitive tender.
Same people? Many companies use Hoyer.
Same price? Is that how you'd run a business - "please don't charge me less than my competitors"?
What "requirements" do you think they've skimped on?
There was fuel at the terminals and they were the ones that precipitated the trouble, AIUI, in noting that a number (small AIUI) of their stations were low on fuel.Same people? Many companies use Hoyer.
Same price? Is that how you'd run a business - "please don't charge me less than my competitors"?
What "requirements" do you think they've skimped on?
If that was the case, they clearly weren't doing everything the same as their competitors.
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