CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 15)
Discussion
Big Al. said:
Thank You Big Al.Kim Iversen: VIOLENT Protests Show The World Is OVER Covid Mandates
Protests all around the world (that we don't see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHpZ2vqJbMA
Protests all around the world (that we don't see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHpZ2vqJbMA
LeighW said:
I see a certain Scottish tennis player has piped up.
"Andy Murray backs demands for ALL Australian Open players to be vaccinated - despite Novak Djokovic leading the rebels - as Brit insists stars must follow the rules after a 'painful 18 months' Down Under"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/artic...
Interesting way of getting a rival banned from the tournament
As usual, terrible reporting from the media, as at no point does it report Novak Djokovic has already had and recovered from Covid."Andy Murray backs demands for ALL Australian Open players to be vaccinated - despite Novak Djokovic leading the rebels - as Brit insists stars must follow the rules after a 'painful 18 months' Down Under"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/artic...
Interesting way of getting a rival banned from the tournament
The mass denial of infection immunity is going to be one of the biggest scandals from this and cause horrific problems in the trust of scientists, doctors and politicians for generations to come.
Interesting:
The ethics of age-selective restrictions for COVID-19 control
https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2021/01/27/th...
Bmj:
“Much of the rhetoric around this issue has hinted that those who suggest consideration of an age-selective approach are ageist and unconcerned with the fate of older people; callously willing to sacrifice them for a return to normal life. However, an approach of age-selective liberty restrictions as vaccines are rolled out, and in future epidemics, may result in fewer deaths, specifically among the elderly, while also allowing the most important social and economic activities to continue. Further analysis would be required to determine whether such a policy would indeed be feasible and effective at minimizing the harms of the pandemic, and how best this should be combined with rapid vaccine roll-out. However vague concerns about ageism and a reluctance to accept any harm due to COVID-19 or refusing to acknowledge that harm will inevitably occur, should not prevent such analysis from occurring.”
I say we should be looking at this. Those nhs passports will allow venues and businesses to refuse entry to people above a certain age, for their own good of course.
The ethics of age-selective restrictions for COVID-19 control
https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2021/01/27/th...
Bmj:
“Much of the rhetoric around this issue has hinted that those who suggest consideration of an age-selective approach are ageist and unconcerned with the fate of older people; callously willing to sacrifice them for a return to normal life. However, an approach of age-selective liberty restrictions as vaccines are rolled out, and in future epidemics, may result in fewer deaths, specifically among the elderly, while also allowing the most important social and economic activities to continue. Further analysis would be required to determine whether such a policy would indeed be feasible and effective at minimizing the harms of the pandemic, and how best this should be combined with rapid vaccine roll-out. However vague concerns about ageism and a reluctance to accept any harm due to COVID-19 or refusing to acknowledge that harm will inevitably occur, should not prevent such analysis from occurring.”
I say we should be looking at this. Those nhs passports will allow venues and businesses to refuse entry to people above a certain age, for their own good of course.
andyeds1234 said:
Square Leg said:
Thanks goodness they discovered these issues before they gave it to anyone.
Given that the percentage of instances of heart issues, shown in individuals who have contracted Covid, is significantly higher than those from any of the vaccines, the vaccine is a significantly lesser risk than that from Covid.If you go for natural immunity by acquiring Covid, heart issues may be much more prevalent.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-80...
Edited by andyeds1234 on Sunday 10th October 20:01
me said:
And if you’ve been one of the lucky 99.904% why risk it again if you don’t need(ie not powerfully built and or old)?
Wonder if doctor andy will answer in this volume?55north1west said:
Volume 14 seemed to go so quickly, let’s hope 15 sees us quietly through the winter
Not according to my statsVolume | Start Date | End Date | Days |
1 | 21/03/2020 | 05/05/2020 | 45 |
2 | 05/05/2020 | 25/06/2020 | 51 |
3 | 25/06/2020 | 16/08/2020 | 52 |
4 | 16/08/2020 | 27/09/2020 | 42 |
5 | 27/09/2020 | 31/10/2020 | 34 |
6 | 31/10/2020 | 29/11/2020 | 29 |
7 | 29/11/2020 | 24/12/2020 | 25 |
8 | 24/12/2020 | 13/01/2021 | 20 |
9 | 13/01/2021 | 12/02/2021 | 30 |
10 | 12/02/2021 | 25/03/2021 | 41 |
11 | 25/03/2021 | 10/05/2021 | 46 |
12 | 10/05/2021 | 22/06/2021 | 43 |
13 | 22/06/2021 | 30/07/2021 | 38 |
14 | 30/07/2021 | 14/10/2021 | 76 |
15 | 14/10/2021 | Current |
Was actually the slowest to get to 125 pages since the thread topic was started
Rufus Stone said:
PH4555 said:
18 months and 15 volumes in, and people still to this day believe it's about a deadly virus . Mind-boggling. Do we think they'll have finally woken up before the end of this volume?
I'm yet to see a conspiracy loon explain what it is about. Care to enlighten us?There will be some venues that they will not be able to attend, maybe some Countries they will not visit or activities in which they cannot partake. Their choice.
It seems the economy is recovering which has to be good and employment percentage remains robust.
Rufus Stone said:
PH4555 said:
18 months and 15 volumes in, and people still to this day believe it's about a deadly virus . Mind-boggling. Do we think they'll have finally woken up before the end of this volume?
I'm yet to see a conspiracy loon explain what it is about. Care to enlighten us?Taiwan: more dying from Covid jabs than from Covid
https://twitter.com/kukicat7/status/14486574785314...
https://twitter.com/kukicat7/status/14486574785314...
M1AGM said:
Interesting:
The ethics of age-selective restrictions for COVID-19 control
https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2021/01/27/th...
Bmj:
“Much of the rhetoric around this issue has hinted that those who suggest consideration of an age-selective approach are ageist and unconcerned with the fate of older people; callously willing to sacrifice them for a return to normal life. However, an approach of age-selective liberty restrictions as vaccines are rolled out, and in future epidemics, may result in fewer deaths, specifically among the elderly, while also allowing the most important social and economic activities to continue. Further analysis would be required to determine whether such a policy would indeed be feasible and effective at minimizing the harms of the pandemic, and how best this should be combined with rapid vaccine roll-out. However vague concerns about ageism and a reluctance to accept any harm due to COVID-19 or refusing to acknowledge that harm will inevitably occur, should not prevent such analysis from occurring.”
I say we should be looking at this. Those nhs passports will allow venues and businesses to refuse entry to people above a certain age, for their own good of course.
Cant see the garden centres turning away the vulnerable quadruple jabbed, even though they probably shouldn't even be outside of their homes this winter.The ethics of age-selective restrictions for COVID-19 control
https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2021/01/27/th...
Bmj:
“Much of the rhetoric around this issue has hinted that those who suggest consideration of an age-selective approach are ageist and unconcerned with the fate of older people; callously willing to sacrifice them for a return to normal life. However, an approach of age-selective liberty restrictions as vaccines are rolled out, and in future epidemics, may result in fewer deaths, specifically among the elderly, while also allowing the most important social and economic activities to continue. Further analysis would be required to determine whether such a policy would indeed be feasible and effective at minimizing the harms of the pandemic, and how best this should be combined with rapid vaccine roll-out. However vague concerns about ageism and a reluctance to accept any harm due to COVID-19 or refusing to acknowledge that harm will inevitably occur, should not prevent such analysis from occurring.”
I say we should be looking at this. Those nhs passports will allow venues and businesses to refuse entry to people above a certain age, for their own good of course.
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