Ghislaine Maxwell trial

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anonymoususer

5,855 posts

49 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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I see this is starting to become a Trump hate thread engineered by a certain chap.

Its way wider than that

tangerine_sedge

4,803 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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anonymoususer said:
I see this is starting to become a Trump hate thread engineered by a certain chap.

Its way wider than that
It's OK to point out everyone else that 'hung around' Epstein, but not trump? Feel free to post your opinion on any of the other 'names'...

CoolHands

18,698 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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Any names yet? I predict a damp squib

grumbledoak

31,551 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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CoolHands said:
Any names yet? I predict a damp squib
I'm not sure it isn't the exact same list we've seen before in Maxwell's trial.

Am certainly not expecting any investigation. They'd get Hillary'd and they all know it.

paulguitar

23,569 posts

114 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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grumbledoak said:
CoolHands said:
Any names yet? I predict a damp squib
I'm not sure it isn't the exact same list we've seen before in Maxwell's trial.

Am certainly not expecting any investigation. They'd get Hillary'd and they all know it.
Have you seriously been taken in by the 'Clinton body count' stuff?

dvs_dave

8,645 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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paulguitar said:
grumbledoak said:
CoolHands said:
Any names yet? I predict a damp squib
I'm not sure it isn't the exact same list we've seen before in Maxwell's trial.

Am certainly not expecting any investigation. They'd get Hillary'd and they all know it.
Have you seriously been taken in by the 'Clinton body count' stuff?
Shouldn’t come as a surprise with Gullibledoak.

Carl_VivaEspana

12,240 posts

263 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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the problem with the previous posts seems to indicate :

selfies with Epstein + flights on Epstein's jet = guilty of sexual assault and therefore liable to jail time.

Its a bit thin and it's one of the risks highlighted when the thread started.


frisbee

4,983 posts

111 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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CoolHands said:
Any names yet? I predict a damp squib
Isn't that Prince Andrew's codename?

Voldemort

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279 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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williamp

19,267 posts

274 months

Tuesday 2nd January
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
the problem with the previous posts seems to indicate :

selfies with Epstein + flights on Epstein's jet = guilty of sexual assault and therefore liable to jail time.

Its a bit thin and it's one of the risks highlighted when the thread started.
This is correct. the wheat and chaff needs to be sorted: a photo on a night out at a gala, or who used his personal jet, is not the same as someone who flew to Paedo island on his jet. That is the key, as we are trying to say. There are rumours of very high up people visiting.

For me, the main point is this: GM was found guilty of sex trafficking children to the Peado island. Not one of their...clients? customers? sick paedos have even been investigated or arrested. It stinks.

(but yeah, thats some sort of conspiracy theory)

And, what I understand is the list is not the client list. Is not a flight list, nor a list of those who visitied the island. They include victims, employees, bankers, housekeepers and anyone else who was named in the recent court case. This does not mean they are guilty.

We know the client list exists. But this aint it.


Byker28i

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60,170 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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anonymoususer said:
I see this is starting to become a Trump hate thread engineered by a certain chap.

Its way wider than that
It was in response to 105 claiming he hadn't seen anything where trump was associated with Epstein biggrin

Meanwhile I've posted lots about the other names in the list

Lets not forget the flight logs have been around since 2015
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-ep...

As previously mentioned, they show Prince Andrew, as well as Bill Clnton and trump took flights on Epsteins plane, neither flew to Epsteins Island
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton...

It'll be interesting to see how much Dershowitz is mentioned

Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 3rd January 09:46

williamp

19,267 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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so, 118 pages. 40 pages longer then the first version.

Someone whose initials are "JG" are on almost all the later flights. There are a lot of repeat users, too
The earlier flights are not as heavily redacted as the later versions. I wonder what changed?? And will there ever be a third, un-redacted version??

Of course he didn't just give away free jet rides, but its hard to know if, say he "gave them a lift" en route to Peado island. The press will need to be very careful what they say about who. Mud sticks, as they say.


Byker28i

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218 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Maxwell has issued a statement via her lawyer saying it's all about men abusing women for a long time, but only a woman is in jail...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ghislaine-maxwell-br...

Another trying to whitewash their history

williamp

19,267 posts

274 months

Thursday 4th January
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Byker28i said:
Maxwell has issued a statement via her lawyer saying it's all about men abusing women for a long time, but only a woman is in jail...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ghislaine-maxwell-br...

Another trying to whitewash their history
Not really: shes right. Yes she did arrange the meetings, and rightly is in jail for this.

But as we speak, she sex trafficked girls... for no clients. None at all. Nobody. Isnt that weird?? (Park your anti Rep stance for a moment)...

Byker28i

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Thursday 4th January
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There's no anti Rep stance on this. Epsteins associates included everyone across the spectrum, as I tried to point out to 105 when he claimed everything about the Dems would be covered uop. As as I've brought up several times, the true incriminating evidence all disappeared.


Thefirst batch filing is released if anyone wants to read it - more will be released today
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuff...

As expected, Clinton and trump are in there as we already knew, but there's no allegation of wrong doing, trump's name appears in a document in which Epstein is quoted as saying he would invite the then-real estate mogul to join him at a casino. In another document, a witness said she was never asked to have sex with trump.

Dershowitz has said "The Epstein list and guilt by association,"

The list also includes the identities of some of his victims, such as Carolyn Andriano. Andriano, household staff, and other people named in the Maxwell court case.

More here
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-li...

Byker28i

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218 months

Thursday 4th January
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One of the docs released repeats the allegations against Dershowitz, the one he got the woman to drop and say it was a case of mistaken identity


He was the one that got Epstein his original deal

He was the one claiming he wanted everything out
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/43861...



Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th January 08:18

Ridgemont

6,599 posts

132 months

Thursday 4th January
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…. and Stephen Hawking… confused

Rufus Stone

6,295 posts

57 months

Thursday 4th January
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Byker28i said:
One of the docs released repeats the allegations against Dershowitz, the one he got the woman to drop and say it was a case of mistaken identity


He was the one that got Epstein his original deal

He was the one claiming he wanted everything out
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/43861...



Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th January 08:18
Has this document been proved to be 100% accurate?

paulguitar

23,569 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th January
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Ridgemont said:
…. and Stephen Hawking… confused
Dark horse. Cunning disguise.


Zoon

6,710 posts

122 months

Thursday 4th January
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paulguitar said:
Ridgemont said:
…. and Stephen Hawking… confused
Dark horse. Cunning disguise.
Maybe he just liked watching