Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

768 said:

Take all the money away from anyone with £80k.

What about all those rich bast*rds earning £70K?

Don't forget £69k

[vonuber]

Vanden Saab said:

Do tell, what is the correct answer to that question?

What do you think the correct answer is?

[JeffreyD]

Anyone going to give a st about the latest batch of fines?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

JeffreyD said:

Anyone going to give a st about the latest batch of fines?

Yada yada, standard response is STARMER HAD A BEER!!!!!!!!

[anonymous-user]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

JeffreyD said:

Anyone going to give a st about the latest batch of fines?

Yada yada, standard response is STARMER HAD A BEER!!!!!!!!

Something something big calls, more important issues, vaccination targets.

And to quote from the email I received earlier this week urging me to join the Conservative Party

Boris Johnson for it is he said:

We have been providing leadership in challenging times - leading the response to Putin's invasion and protecting lives and livelihoods against Covid.

And while we're getting on with the job, Labour and the Lib Dems have nothing to say.

They're playing politics with no ideas of their own.

[Camoradi]

blueg33 said:

Murph7355 said:

Brave Fart said:

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You use the word 'adversarial', and I think you're right. ...

The HoC is set up that way. There are lines drawn on the floor so that sword carrying opposing members couldn't hurt each other. It's set up for argument, not debate. PMQs being the biggest part of the whole panto, and our two latest protagonists take their roles very seriously.

As things currently stand, maybe the simplest change would be to move the two lines closer together!

And issue swords


My money would be on Rayner.

Gove would fend her off with his tiny spoon

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Camoradi said:

Gove would fend her off with his tiny spoon

Whilst giving his best Harry Enfield "Calm down" impression.

[Dixy]

JeffreyD said:

Anyone going to give a st about the latest batch of fines?

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Dixy said:

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

[smn159]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Dixy said:

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

Johnson is pretty clueless to be fair. Maybe he really does have no idea what goes on in his own office / house as Dixy suggests

[JeffreyD]

Dixy said:

JeffreyD said:

Anyone going to give a st about the latest batch of fines?

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

Well aware of the thread - and note you are happy to accept that he has no responsibility for what goes on in his office, nor any knowledge of what was occurring at the time.

[Vanden Saab]

smn159 said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Dixy said:

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

Johnson is pretty clueless to be fair. Maybe he really does have no idea what goes on in his own office / house as Dixy suggests

Why would he? A workplace with as many as 200 staff and many more coming and going and you are suggesting that the PM should be concentrating on what is going on there in the middle of a pandemic rather than doing his job.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Vanden Saab said:

Why would he? A workplace with as many as 200 staff and many more coming and going and you are suggesting that the PM should be concentrating on what is going on there in the middle of a pandemic rather than doing his job.

I hardly think it would take much concentrating to notice the illegal gatherings, how many has there been? Presumably he only needed to notice one and then if he'd put his foot down that would have been the end of them. The staff seemingly don't have much respect for him, do they? If the man cannot control his own office what hope does he have for the country?

[Randy Winkman]

Vanden Saab said:

smn159 said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Dixy said:

You do know this is a thread about the PM

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

Neither the PM nor Mrs Johnson are among those to be fined this time.

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

Johnson is pretty clueless to be fair. Maybe he really does have no idea what goes on in his own office / house as Dixy suggests

Why would he? A workplace with as many as 200 staff and many more coming and going and you are suggesting that the PM should be concentrating on what is going on there in the middle of a pandemic rather than doing his job.

The irony is the difference between No10 and the rest of the civil service at that time. As Jacob Rees Mogg will tell you, 99% of civil servants are all still at home now, never mind back then. Whereas at No10 it was party-central.

[dai1983]

dxg said:

Just listened to Marcus Fysh (yes, I'd never heard of him either) on this week's Chopper's Politics podcast, giving a damming indictment of the complacency of the incumbent leadership team and failing to offer any support to Johnson.

What was interesting about this, as being a Tory MP who doesn't support Johnson as a Tory MP isn't necessarily that uncommon (just perhaps not often verbalised), was the depth of his economic understanding.

Perhaps there is some hope that the generation behind Johnson might actually know what they are doing and could offer a viable alternative? Another I'd place in that camp is Kemi Badenoch.

Despite that, it seems that the UK might be heading to its own "lost decade" and look what that did to Japan...

He's my MP and 2019 hustings was just GETBREXITDONEBOT3000 and got in again because of that. Don't really see much from him and is a fan of supply side economics.

[loafer123]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

So you’re saying Starmer should resign even without a FPN…?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

loafer123 said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Regardless of whether he is personally fined this time, are you honestly saying that there is no connection between events at 10 Downing Street and the Prime Minister?

So you’re saying Starmer should resign even without a FPN…?

I couldn't give a stuff about Starmer, what's his relevance to the PM and breaches of Covid rules at No.10? I am questioning someone's assertion that the PM and events at No. 10 are not in anyway connected, seems a tad disingenuous to me.

[Byker28i]

NY Times are reporting on Russian money funneled to help Boris be elected
The ‘suspicious activity report’ flagged the donation as both suspected money laundering and a potentially illegal campaign donation, because it had come from a foreign citizen and an attempt was made to disguise the source.

Sir Ehud Sheleg’s bank alerted the NCA to a £450,000 donation he had made to the Conservatives. It said the cash originated from the Russian bank account of his father-in-law, Sergei Kopytov, once a senior politician in Ukraine’s previous pro-Kremlin government.

A lawyer for Mr. Sheleg acknowledged that he and his wife received millions of dollars from his father-in-law in the weeks before the donation. But they said that was “entirely separate” from the campaign contribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/ru...

Remember when Boris said: “There is no place for dirty money in the UK,” and “Those backing Putin have been put on notice: there will be nowhere to hide your ill-gotten gains.”

Apart from in tory party funds?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 12th May 13:30

[smn159]

Byker28i said:

NY Times are reporting on Russian money funneled to help Boris be elected
The ‘suspicious activity report’ flagged the donation as both suspected money laundering and a potentially illegal campaign donation, because it had come from a foreign citizen and an attempt was made to disguise the source.

Sir Ehud Sheleg’s bank alerted the NCA to a £450,000 donation he had made to the Conservatives. It said the cash originated from the Russian bank account of his father-in-law, Sergei Kopytov, once a senior politician in Ukraine’s previous pro-Kremlin government.

A lawyer for Mr. Sheleg acknowledged that he and his wife received millions of dollars from his father-in-law in the weeks before the donation. But they said that was “entirely separate” from the campaign contribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/ru...

Remember when Boris said: “There is no place for dirty money in the UK,” and “Those backing Putin have been put on notice: there will be nowhere to hide your ill-gotten gains.”

Apart from in tory party funds?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 12th May 13:30

Breathtaking hypocrisy but pretty much par for the course from this government

[anonymous-user]

smn159 said:

Byker28i said:

NY Times are reporting on Russian money funneled to help Boris be elected
The ‘suspicious activity report’ flagged the donation as both suspected money laundering and a potentially illegal campaign donation, because it had come from a foreign citizen and an attempt was made to disguise the source.

Sir Ehud Sheleg’s bank alerted the NCA to a £450,000 donation he had made to the Conservatives. It said the cash originated from the Russian bank account of his father-in-law, Sergei Kopytov, once a senior politician in Ukraine’s previous pro-Kremlin government.

A lawyer for Mr. Sheleg acknowledged that he and his wife received millions of dollars from his father-in-law in the weeks before the donation. But they said that was “entirely separate” from the campaign contribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/ru...

Remember when Boris said: “There is no place for dirty money in the UK,” and “Those backing Putin have been put on notice: there will be nowhere to hide your ill-gotten gains.”

Apart from in tory party funds?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 12th May 13:30

Breathtaking hypocrisy but pretty much par for the course from this government

Much of the British political establishment has strong links to the Russian elite, something that has been going on since the end of the Soviet Union. But yes it is hypocritical.