Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

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Byker28i

59,908 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Newarch said:
smn159 said:
Byker28i said:
NY Times are reporting on Russian money funneled to help Boris be elected
The ‘suspicious activity report’ flagged the donation as both suspected money laundering and a potentially illegal campaign donation, because it had come from a foreign citizen and an attempt was made to disguise the source.

Sir Ehud Sheleg’s bank alerted the NCA to a £450,000 donation he had made to the Conservatives. It said the cash originated from the Russian bank account of his father-in-law, Sergei Kopytov, once a senior politician in Ukraine’s previous pro-Kremlin government.

A lawyer for Mr. Sheleg acknowledged that he and his wife received millions of dollars from his father-in-law in the weeks before the donation. But they said that was “entirely separate” from the campaign contribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/ru...

Remember when Boris said: “There is no place for dirty money in the UK,” and “Those backing Putin have been put on notice: there will be nowhere to hide your ill-gotten gains.”

Apart from in tory party funds?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 12th May 13:30
Breathtaking hypocrisy but pretty much par for the course from this government
Much of the British political establishment has strong links to the Russian elite, something that has been going on since the end of the Soviet Union. But yes it is hypocritical.
Is this the stuff that Private Eye have previously reported?

Vanden Saab

14,101 posts

74 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Byker28i said:
NY Times are reporting on Russian money funneled to help Boris be elected
The ‘suspicious activity report’ flagged the donation as both suspected money laundering and a potentially illegal campaign donation, because it had come from a foreign citizen and an attempt was made to disguise the source.

Sir Ehud Sheleg’s bank alerted the NCA to a £450,000 donation he had made to the Conservatives. It said the cash originated from the Russian bank account of his father-in-law, Sergei Kopytov, once a senior politician in Ukraine’s previous pro-Kremlin government.

A lawyer for Mr. Sheleg acknowledged that he and his wife received millions of dollars from his father-in-law in the weeks before the donation. But they said that was “entirely separate” from the campaign contribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/world/europe/ru...

Remember when Boris said: “There is no place for dirty money in the UK,” and “Those backing Putin have been put on notice: there will be nowhere to hide your ill-gotten gains.”

Apart from in tory party funds?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 12th May 13:30
Even from you that is weak... your wife's father who is Russian gives you and your wife a few million and you seperately give half a million to the tory party and somehow it is dirty Russian money.
I had forgotten why i do not bother reading the Trump thread, thanks for reminding me.

Byker28i

59,908 posts

217 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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LOL - nice try again VS, but read closely without that chip on your shoulder in the way. It's a story in the NY Times today and I think has previously been in Private eye

blueg33

35,922 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Next week I have to lead a panel discussion on creating communities and the housing crisis.

Which bits of Goves mostly incoherent repetition of stuff I’ve heard for the last 30 years should I go with?


JagLover

42,422 posts

235 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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blueg33 said:
Next week I have to lead a panel discussion on creating communities and the housing crisis.

Which bits of Goves mostly incoherent repetition of stuff I’ve heard for the last 30 years should I go with?
Never mind that. To get the full "Gove effect" you will need to be coked up apparently.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Vanden Saab

14,101 posts

74 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Byker28i said:
LOL - nice try again VS, but read closely without that chip on your shoulder in the way. It's a story in the NY Times today and I think has previously been in Private eye
Which you posted here...

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

40 months

Thursday 12th May 2022
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Welshbeef said:
Interesting that you associate a fraud trial with Johnson.

I can see where you are coming from, but I can't see it coming to that.

Rufus Stone

6,232 posts

56 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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100 fines and counting for law breaking at No. 10 yet Boris bravely soldiers on. What a hero. rolleyes

What's the saying about only leaving feet first?

Prolex-UK

3,065 posts

208 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Plans to reduce civil servants by 90k now


Free up money to help get thru the cost of living crisis

Masterplan


Prolex-UK

3,065 posts

208 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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anonymous said:
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Was being sarcastic.

Will appeal to his base as all civil servants are seen as work shy.



Venisonpie

3,278 posts

82 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Prolex-UK said:
Was being sarcastic.

Will appeal to his base as all civil servants are seen as work shy.
It's classic Daily Mail fodder, will be single parents next etc.
BBC article alludes to an uplift in civil servants to deal with brexit and the pandemic. I think the impacts of both will be here for some time yet.

Rufus Stone

6,232 posts

56 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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The Government claims the civil service provides an outstanding service to the public. I think the public would strongly disagree.

Less staff is only going to make matters worse.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Can have a leaving party or two, or twenty!

JagLover

42,422 posts

235 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Rufus Stone said:
The Government claims the civil service provides an outstanding service to the public. I think the public would strongly disagree.

Less staff is only going to make matters worse.
Most of the issues with the civil service are likely due to inappropriate WFH (short term) and poor systems and management (long term). If you resolve this then I imagine it is perfectly possible to return to the same levels as 2016.

Out in the real world the place where I work decided to use mass WFH to more than halve the admin team.

Vanden Saab

14,101 posts

74 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Rufus Stone said:
100 fines and counting for law breaking at No. 10 yet Boris bravely soldiers on. What a hero. rolleyes

What's the saying about only leaving feet first?
Incorrect only some of the fines were for No.10 breaches. I can understand why you might think that though going by most of the media coverage.

bitchstewie

51,266 posts

210 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Prolex-UK said:
Plans to reduce civil servants by 90k now


Free up money to help get thru the cost of living crisis

Masterplan
The cost of living crisis is happening now.

This is just more red meat dog whistle to appeal to his base whilst achieving absolutely nothing.

I doubt it will ever happen ignoring that it's no help if people are having to decide between heating and eating today.

Murph7355

37,726 posts

256 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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anonymous said:
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You missed the final step...

Retirees then come back as outside IR35 contractors for a few years to help with the gaps biggrin

A well managed thinning out can work wonders. But not with the turkeys at play. It's the one thing I find a shame about the whole Cummings debacle. His approach could have disrupted the Civil Service properly and possibly seen real change. None of the current incumbents have the nous for it.

(That said, I've needed to use the passport service three times in the last few years for family. The online service worked really well. Passports all arrived quickly - inside two weeks - and the old ones were returned within a couple of months).

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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anonymous said:
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Aye.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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bhstewie said:
Prolex-UK said:
Plans to reduce civil servants by 90k now


Free up money to help get thru the cost of living crisis

Masterplan
The cost of living crisis is happening now.

This is just more red meat dog whistle to appeal to his base whilst achieving absolutely nothing.

I doubt it will ever happen ignoring that it's no help if people are having to decide between heating and eating today.
Indeed, it will play well with morons who whine about wfh (because needlessly travelling to a place of work is such a good thing) and who’ll be the first to moan when there is any discernible detriment to public services.


Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th May 08:36

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