Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

[mcdjl]

bmwmike said:

So they were basically treating Downing St like a students residence getting pissed, puking, fighting, and generally being s. All whilst telling everyone else what they could and couldn't do. And still people will defend them? Beyond words.

Looks like it. And yet students got fined £10,000 and in a number of cases kicked out of uni for it.

[don'tbesilly]

According to Adam Fleming (BBC's chief political correspondent), Johnson is safer today in his position than he was yesterday, and it's noticeable that the coverage (BBC) is more muted today than it was yesterday.

So the interim Gray report failed to oust him as has the Met report, and now the full Gray report (a damp squib in regards to Johnson) which was apparently going to be the final nail in Johnson's coffin has also failed, will the Privileges Committee report be the next much-awaited report to be hyped by the media to be the final coup de grace?

Naughty Guido



https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/15295478664...

[anonymous-user]

JagLover said:

So you don't find it the slightest bit hypocritical that he was calling for tighter lockdown restrictions one day and attending a social event the next?.

It's a fair point, but I can see a reasonable distinction between a work related event, in this case the Iraq British Business Council which Ellwood could conceivably have attended as Chair of the Defence Select Committee and a bi weekly piss up at No 10.

In any case Ellwood did apologise for attending (something iirc Boris has had yet to do in respect of his own contretemps).

In any case my eye is drawn to this at the end of the article...

"The PM has been clear throughout the pandemic that it's vital for everybody to abide by the rules in order to suppress the virus and therefore protect the NHS and save lives."

Yup.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 26th May 08:06

[bmwmike]

Does anyone still believe he was in ICU with covid? I don't and never have. More likely a hangover or alcohol poisoning by the sounds of it.

[AmitG]

bmwmike said:

Does anyone still believe he was in ICU with covid? I don't and never have. More likely a hangover or alcohol poisoning by the sounds of it.

I think that if it was not covid it would be almost impossible to cover up. NHS nurses are not the type to keep quiet over something like that...

[Murph7355]

Blackpuddin said:

Garvin said:

Mine was a well known figure of speech, yours was just crass.

Nice line in selective quoting there, I was referring to your entire comment as well you know.

There is quite literally no selective quoting there, as it's all you wrote. And Garvin's interpretation is how it read to me.

[anonymous-user]

bmwmike said:

Does anyone still believe he was in ICU with covid? I don't and never have. More likely a hangover or alcohol poisoning by the sounds of it.

I'm sure Boris was in intensive care, he is grossly overweight and unfit, but I suspect he knew playing up the death's door angle would play well as a sympathy vote and also to hammer home his message with the general public.

Sorry if that sounds very cynical but he can be quite calculating when he isn't playing the buffoon.

[don'tbesilly]

bmwmike said:

Does anyone still believe he was in ICU with covid? I don't and never have. More likely a hangover or alcohol poisoning by the sounds of it.

Jenny McGee and Luis Pitarma (the 2 nurses who treated Johnson in ICU) seemed fairly adamant Johnson was in ICU, perhaps they were also in on your theory, and it wasn’t Covid he was being treated for but a hangover or alcohol poisoning.

[Murph7355]

bhstewie said:

I like how people like you think someone showing poor judgement once and recognising and apologising for it is somehow worse than someone showing a pattern of poor judgement and blatant disregard for the rules they set and then lying to the public about it.

You cannot be half pregnant stewie.

When casting stones, it pays to be squeaky clean in politics. It seems there are few in the house at present who should be limbering up their throwing arm (on this topic at least).

The Tory MPs might prove me wrong, and might vote him out. But I'm really doubtful right now. And the more this particular angle is pushed, I suspect those pushing it will become the pariahs. I am not suggesting that is "right" or "wrong", but no matter how many YouGov polls are posted, I think people are sick of it and wish the whole charade that is Parliament just got on with the important things (note that question has not been polled as far as I'm aware... ).

Also, the more this ste is pushed, the more it is giving the Tories an "out" on the important stuff. Unfair? Sure. But that's politics.

I reckon he has a year to make material improvements on the 10 things I noted (he can book in with my cat whenever he wants). If he's made none, the party will eject him (ideally, for them, if there are signs of improvement but not massive).

[Derek Smith]

Newarch said:

I'm sure Boris was in intensive care, he is grossly overweight and unfit, but I suspect he knew playing up the death's door angle would play well as a sympathy vote and also to hammer home his message with the general public.

Sorry if that sounds very cynical but he can be quite calculating when he isn't playing the buffoon.

He's calculating when he's play the buffoon, but more so.

[Murph7355]

don'tbesilly said:

....
So the interim Gray report failed to oust him as has the Met report, and now the full Gray report (a damp squib in regards to Johnson)...

I think it was only a damp squib because of the way these events have been handled/released. His opponents went too quick and decided on drip drip drip rather than a knockout punch. And then spent way too much time on minutiae and process that most people couldn't care less about.

It could, of course, have been no10 that leaked this stuff exactly for that reason. But I'm not sure they're that shrewd.

[anonymous-user]

Derek Smith said:

Newarch said:

I'm sure Boris was in intensive care, he is grossly overweight and unfit, but I suspect he knew playing up the death's door angle would play well as a sympathy vote and also to hammer home his message with the general public.

Sorry if that sounds very cynical but he can be quite calculating when he isn't playing the buffoon.

He's calculating when he's play the buffoon, but more so.

I remember someone on tv recently saying that he met Boris Johnson for a show, he turned up looking completely normal, but a few seconds before he was due to go on he'd mess up his hair and adopt his trademark orangutan posture.

[Garvin]

Murph7355 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Garvin said:

Mine was a well known figure of speech, yours was just crass.

Nice line in selective quoting there, I was referring to your entire comment as well you know.

There is quite literally no selective quoting there, as it's all you wrote. And Garvin's interpretation is how it read to me.

There was selective quoting . . . but not by me . . . if you look back at the nested posts you will see that he selectively (snipped) my previous post and didn’t provide any indication that he had done so. Hypocrisy and poor forum etiquette rolled into one as well as given to irrational hyperbole.

[Electro1980]

bhstewie said:

I like how people like you think someone showing poor judgement once and recognising and apologising for it is somehow worse than someone showing a pattern of poor judgement and blatant disregard for the rules they set and then lying to the public about it.

It is bizarre.

Boris has multiple parties, regular piss-ups, lots of people, including him, fined, suitcases full of wine, tables of spirits and snack, says in parliament it was all fine and legal - “it’s all fluff! He did nothing wrong! You’re all over reacting! It’s just cake!”

Ellwood attends one event, that was completely legal and apologises after seeing that whilst legal wasn’t the best look - “HANG HIM!!!”.

I thought it was a party political tribal thing, but it’s not. It’s just about Boris. It’s insane.

[NRS]

He "got Brexit done".

[williamp]

This sums up how I feel, but as its the Speccie its put better than I can

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/boris-johnsons...

[bitchstewie]

Electro1980 said:

It is bizarre.

Boris has multiple parties, regular piss-ups, lots of people, including him, fined, suitcases full of wine, tables of spirits and snack, says in parliament it was all fine and legal - “it’s all fluff! He did nothing wrong! You’re all over reacting! It’s just cake!”

Ellwood attends one event, that was completely legal and apologises after seeing that whilst legal wasn’t the best look - “HANG HIM!!!”.

I thought it was a party political tribal thing, but it’s not. It’s just about Boris. It’s insane.

It clearly isn't about Conservativism.

I've said before it's cultish behaviour

[Evanivitch]

williamp said:

This sums up how I feel, but as its the Speccie its put better than I can

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/boris-johnsons...

Agreed until the last bit. There's no time to learn. Boris has been behaving like this for over a decade.

[ddom]

bhstewie said:

It clearly isn't about Conservativism.

I've said before it's cultish behaviour

That’s not how you spell it

[Blackpuddin]

Murph7355 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Garvin said:

Mine was a well known figure of speech, yours was just crass.

Nice line in selective quoting there, I was referring to your entire comment as well you know.

There is quite literally no selective quoting there, as it's all you wrote. And Garvin's interpretation is how it read to me.

I'm referring to the selective quoting of his own post, not mine. If you are serious about your self-proclaimed role of PH thread arbiter you really need to think a bit more.