Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

[DeejRC]

There is no hoisting, by petard or anything else though. Nothing of consequence to anybody will happen. Except…the police will spend resources looking at something obsolete to, at best, issue somebody with a £50 fine. In other words - zero consequences. The frothing mob, ie ppl like Stewie and Rob will jump up and down getting excited that it’s evidence of something and everybody else will carry on fairly unbothered.
I strongly suspect that 99% of the police force would dearly wish any and everything to do with Covid lockdown laws would also bugger off into the long grass.
Let his voting constituents deal with him next yr. They will pass ultimate judgement as is their job.

[bitchstewie]

I’m not frothing at this Deej he’s gone from public life and good riddance.

It’s just funny that his sponging ways seem to have backfired and his own defence lawyers have had to report him.

[Prolex-UK]

bhstewie said:

I’m not frothing at this Deej he’s gone from public life and good riddance.

It’s just funny that his sponging ways seem to have backfired and his own defence lawyers have had to report him.

My thoughts too

Any idea how many days he has been to the HofC since he was sacked?

[brickwall]

Randy Winkman said:

brickwall said:

robemcdonald said:

swisstoni said:

Unjust as it may seem, Johnson, Sunak and Starmer could quite easily earn more than a PM’s salary for a lot less grief I suspect.

Still it’s not a pittance. Absolute or relative.

His PM salary was about 1/20th of what he’s earning now. If that is not a relative pittance, what is?

But isn't one partly because of the other? When someone takes on the job of PM with a relatively "modest" salary they know the doors that will subsequently open.

For sure - the salary paid to the PM is largely irrelevant because a) As PM you generally have other things to be thinking about and b) The amount is a pittance in comparison to the king’s ransom you are likely to earn after leaving office.

It only becomes an issue if there’s a liquidity problem (as was the case for Boris).

[pghstochaj]

DeejRC said:

There is no hoisting, by petard or anything else though. Nothing of consequence to anybody will happen. Except…the police will spend resources looking at something obsolete to, at best, issue somebody with a £50 fine. In other words - zero consequences. The frothing mob, ie ppl like Stewie and Rob will jump up and down getting excited that it’s evidence of something and everybody else will carry on fairly unbothered.
I strongly suspect that 99% of the police force would dearly wish any and everything to do with Covid lockdown laws would also bugger off into the long grass.
Let his voting constituents deal with him next yr. They will pass ultimate judgement as is their job.

That post is one long contradiction.

How are his voting constituents going to pass judgement on him unless they know facts around his behaviour?

How can you say that the police investigation will have no consequences if ultimately you are accepting he might lose his job when judged by his constituents following the outcome of the police investigation?

[DeejRC]

bhstewie said:

I’m not frothing at this Deej he’s gone from public life and good riddance.

It’s just funny that his sponging ways seem to have backfired and his own defence lawyers have had to report him.

You have been frothing about him for 4yrs.
Why do you think so many of us have been laughing at you?

[cgt2]

Prolex-UK said:

My thoughts too

Any idea how many days he has been to the HofC since he was sacked?

Probably far more days than he has been in Uxbridge

[Wills2]

It's no surprise, surprised they didn't ask these questions at the time, as clearly the rules didn't apply to Bojo as he's a large rules free zone, or so he thinks.

[Derek Smith]

bhstewie said:

I’m not frothing at this Deej he’s gone from public life and good riddance.

It’s just funny that his sponging ways seem to have backfired and his own defence lawyers have had to report him.

It is rather delicious irony.

Peston, as he frequently does, informs us of the details of the matter succinctly.

I know Johnson is yesterday's man, whatever happens with these enquiries, but comeuppance is so rare for politicians that it doesn't feel wrong to indulge in a little laugh, frothy or not, with what's happening to the dolt.

With apologies to Deej - Ha, ha.

[Blue62]

pghstochaj said:

That post is one long contradiction.

How are his voting constituents going to pass judgement on him unless they know facts around his behaviour?

How can you say that the police investigation will have no consequences if ultimately you are accepting he might lose his job when judged by his constituents following the outcome of the police investigation?

This. I suspect some people still have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they fell for it, it’s not nice to be the victim of a hoax and denial is part of the process, though in some cases it does seem to be going on a bit. Boris treats everyone with contempt, he’s brilliant at it and just needs a willing audience to carry on with his act.

[anonymous-user]

Blue62 said:

This. I suspect some people still have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that they fell for it, it’s not nice to be the victim of a hoax and denial is part of the process, though in some cases it does seem to be going on a bit. Boris treats everyone with contempt, he’s brilliant at it and just needs a willing audience to carry on with his act.

people are very angry, Brexit, Levelling up etc, many ordinary people were duped and the people they thought “had their backs” have sold them down the river…. The problem is they are not quite in denial, at least not publicly, and not yet ready to be angry at the people responsible but are instead angry at the people they are told to be angry at, the “wokies”, the lefty lawyers etc etc.

[cgt2]

I'm no fan of his but I believe he did intend for levelling up to be a real thing.

Unfortunately due to his shambolic leadership, lack of focus on issues, inability to understand budgets and being surrounded by incompetent sycophants rather than capable managerial talent it was never going to actually happen.

[S600BSB]

DeejRC said:

There is no hoisting, by petard or anything else though. Nothing of consequence to anybody will happen. Except…the police will spend resources looking at something obsolete to, at best, issue somebody with a £50 fine. In other words - zero consequences. The frothing mob, ie ppl like Stewie and Rob will jump up and down getting excited that it’s evidence of something and everybody else will carry on fairly unbothered.
I strongly suspect that 99% of the police force would dearly wish any and everything to do with Covid lockdown laws would also bugger off into the long grass.
Let his voting constituents deal with him next yr. They will pass ultimate judgement as is their job.

Agree. The key thing now is that he is accountable to his constituents. Hopefully the good people of Uxbridge will boot him out next year in a way that will be a suitably humiliating experience.

[Blue62]

cgt2 said:

I'm no fan of his but I believe he did intend for levelling up to be a real thing.

Unfortunately due to his shambolic leadership, lack of focus on issues, inability to understand budgets and being surrounded by incompetent sycophants rather than capable managerial talent it was never going to actually happen.

I can’t agree, there’s simply too much evidence that Boris believes only in himself and the furthering of his career and ambitions. He is our version of Trump, capable of holding multiple positions on all issues and waiting to see which way the crowd moves before hailing ‘follow me.’

There is nothing, anywhere, in this man’s life to suggest he holds anything dear, quite why the plight of downtrodden northerners would weigh heavy on his mind can simply be explained by the need to keep the red wall on side, he couldn’t give a toss.

[isaldiri]

cgt2 said:

I'm no fan of his but I believe he did intend for levelling up to be a real thing.
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I think it's quite curious that anyone actually still thinks that Boris Johnson believes in anything other than what's perceived as in the interests of...Boris Johnson. Levelling up was a good soundbite for him to use so he was more than happy to jump on that bandwagon, no more. What has he ever done in his political career that makes you believe he actually did intend for it to happen if he could have?

[sugerbear]

cgt2 said:

I'm no fan of his but I believe he did intend for levelling up to be a real thing.

Unfortunately due to his shambolic leadership, lack of focus on issues, inability to understand budgets and being surrounded by incompetent sycophants rather than capable managerial talent it was never going to actually happen.

He said it to get elected. He is an itinerent liar whose contacts have kept him in place for far too long. He hasn't excelled at any position he has held and has been sacked or shown the door on many occassions. He is also a poor liar as he constantly forgots the lies he has told as well.

And his sister has also dropped him in it as she has admitted that she met him at chequers during lockdown.

[cgt2]

I don't disagree with both of you at all... but I always got the perception that those poor downtrodden folk who fell for his bull*hit were in his mind now 'his tribe' who would vote for him repeatedly for decades making him a four term PM and celebrate his glorious leadership for turning Scun*horpe into Singapore.

I'm sure he didn't give a toss about them but his ego and self interest wanted it to happen for the accolades.

[Escort3500]

Derek Smith said:

bhstewie said:

I’m not frothing at this Deej he’s gone from public life and good riddance.

It’s just funny that his sponging ways seem to have backfired and his own defence lawyers have had to report him.

It is rather delicious irony.

Peston, as he frequently does, informs us of the details of the matter succinctly.

I know Johnson is yesterday's man, whatever happens with these enquiries, but comeuppance is so rare for politicians that it doesn't feel wrong to indulge in a little laugh, frothy or not, with what's happening to the dolt.

With apologies to Deej - Ha, ha.

There’s also a delicious irony in Deej accusing bhstewie of frothing

[anonymous-user]

cgt2 said:

I'm no fan of his but I believe he did intend for levelling up to be a real thing.

Unfortunately due to his shambolic leadership, lack of focus on issues, inability to understand budgets and being surrounded by incompetent sycophants rather than capable managerial talent it was never going to actually happen.

Gove, to his credit, was the driver behind levelling up and really pushed for it. He vehemently believed in it and wanted it to succeed. I have a friend in the dept and they were all motivated, sadly the energy was sucked out in the summer of 22 when Clark and Clarke were in post

[Randy Winkman]

Escort3500 said:

There’s also a delicious irony in Deej accusing bhstewie of frothing

Yes - frothing, bleating, whining and whinging are what the other side do aren't they? I always put forward carefully considered arguments.