£7.50p a pint. That’s it I’m out
Discussion
2gins said:
Pretty much. That was just 1 main and a side among 2 as well.
Mains have gone from £7-8 to £11-12
Bhajis were £4.50, now £7
Sides £6-7, now at £9-10
Naans £2-3, now £4ish
Rice the same
Charging for chutneys, used to be free. Poppadoms 60p each from 30p
Takeaway! = £40-45
I cycle home from work past all the curry places in W London, by the time I get home I'm often gagging for a curry especially if we haven't got anything else lined up. I looked at the one over the road we usually use back in Novemberish, saw those prices, and thought you're having a laugh. They were always towards the bottom of the range, but had a sexy front of house lass and a few new signs. Going up market, I thought. Nope. The more expensive up market one across town has also increased by 25%. Chinese the same. The local chippy is still good value....
Haven't been in a pub since Plan B but I'm not expecting change from a tenner for the usual pint of ale and soft for the mrs. If we go for a long walk it'll be a picnic from the supermarket or high street deli.
I think you’re exaggerating. Of course you can find a takeaway curry for £45 but you’d have to look hard.Mains have gone from £7-8 to £11-12
Bhajis were £4.50, now £7
Sides £6-7, now at £9-10
Naans £2-3, now £4ish
Rice the same
Charging for chutneys, used to be free. Poppadoms 60p each from 30p
Takeaway! = £40-45
I cycle home from work past all the curry places in W London, by the time I get home I'm often gagging for a curry especially if we haven't got anything else lined up. I looked at the one over the road we usually use back in Novemberish, saw those prices, and thought you're having a laugh. They were always towards the bottom of the range, but had a sexy front of house lass and a few new signs. Going up market, I thought. Nope. The more expensive up market one across town has also increased by 25%. Chinese the same. The local chippy is still good value....
Haven't been in a pub since Plan B but I'm not expecting change from a tenner for the usual pint of ale and soft for the mrs. If we go for a long walk it'll be a picnic from the supermarket or high street deli.
I have a house in Twickenham, quite a pricey area.
Starter £3
Curry £6
Rice £3
Naan £2
There are cheaper places but £15 very easily from probably 10 restaurants.
2gins said:
Not just pubs. 25-30% increase in takeaway curry on the last few months. 1 main, 1 side, rice, naan, bhajis, poppadoms, £45. Bought Sainsbury's finest instead.
WTF?!It's a different world out there isn't it!
Main, rice, poppadoms and naan is £9 at the one 30 seconds from my house. Add chips and bhajis for another £5, so £14 all in.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
What's wrong with Wetherspoons?
Nothing, some of them are in very nice old buildings too. Sadly the period between it getting a returb tends to be about 20 years unfortunsyly. You know what you are getting and can’t argue at the price. After a few weeks of paying £6.50 plus a pint it’s good to chuck in a weatherspoons visit once in a while. They do differ from place to place though but my local one is pretty good. DeltonaS said:
Good luck.
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Oh the anti U.K. troll is back !The U.K. Is Two Months Away From a Brutal Cost-of-Living Crisis
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How’s it going in the Netherlands, how’s the housing crisis and cost of living protests getting on there ?
Inflation rate is currently 6.4% there, higher than the U.K.
People in glass houses eh ?
paulw123 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
What's wrong with Wetherspoons?
Nothing, some of them are in very nice old buildings too. Sadly the period between it getting a returb tends to be about 20 years unfortunsyly. You know what you are getting and can’t argue at the price. After a few weeks of paying £6.50 plus a pint it’s good to chuck in a weatherspoons visit once in a while. They do differ from place to place though but my local one is pretty good. paddy1970 said:
The top 10 cheapest cities for beer (average price per pint)
Buenos Aires, Argentina – £1.17.
Prague, Czech Republic – £1.34.
Mexico City, Mexico – £1.41.
Wroclaw, Poland – £1.70.
Kraków, Poland – £1.89.
Warsaw, Poland – £1.89.
Moscow, Russia – £2.06.
Fort Collins, US – £2.87.
Poland is fantastic, Warsaw was brilliant when I was over there. Whole bottles of vodka and mixer for under £20 in the pubs, lovely people as well.Buenos Aires, Argentina – £1.17.
Prague, Czech Republic – £1.34.
Mexico City, Mexico – £1.41.
Wroclaw, Poland – £1.70.
Kraków, Poland – £1.89.
Warsaw, Poland – £1.89.
Moscow, Russia – £2.06.
Fort Collins, US – £2.87.
I used to go to a pub called Shannon’s on the Portobello Road. About £2.50 a pint. Great bunch of punters from all walks of life. Pretty much the last old school Notting Hill boozer.
Until that is it became a naff sushi bar..
http://ukai.co.uk/
The boozer I refer to buy the way is the Cock and Bottle.
Which was another tatty pub before a tidy up under new owners.
Until that is it became a naff sushi bar..
http://ukai.co.uk/
The boozer I refer to buy the way is the Cock and Bottle.
Which was another tatty pub before a tidy up under new owners.
Leicester Loyal said:
2gins said:
Not just pubs. 25-30% increase in takeaway curry on the last few months. 1 main, 1 side, rice, naan, bhajis, poppadoms, £45. Bought Sainsbury's finest instead.
WTF?!It's a different world out there isn't it!
Main, rice, poppadoms and naan is £9 at the one 30 seconds from my house. Add chips and bhajis for another £5, so £14 all in.
Alot of them seem to have reduced the meat count and its nowhere near filling the container.
One place locally just used half the size containers overnight with the same prices....
I've not had a decent restaurant or takeaway curry for over 5years in Manchester.
When I say decent not slop based stuff. I mean different regions with spices that you can actually differentiate.
Shnozz said:
thebraketester said:
Covent garden the other night in the Coach and Horses (fab pub) Pint of Guinness and a pint of Neck Oil.... £12.10
Are you suggesting cheap or expensive. Given the two drinks you’ve ordered and the location, that sounds extremely reasonable to me.
I’m probably going to regret this….
Pubs generally buy in the beer they sell at not much less than it can be bought in the supermarket. Obviously the bigger you are (Wetherspoons), the greater the purchasing power and the cheaper it will be from the supplier. But if you are a PubCo tenant, with one pub, locked into a supply agreement… To say this has been a point of contention for the on-trade for many years, would be rather a big understatement.
All pubs will sell at whatever gets the most pints sold at the highest price. Supply & demand, economics 101. The same goes for the biggest group/brewery to the smallest single operator pub.
Obviously all publicans are in it to make a profit and would, of course, like to be able to buy a Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren etc. No different from any other business. Risks are taken with capital and returns are hoped for/expected. Unsurprisingly, most will not be able to buy a Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren etc.
Prices have risen as all the other costs of running a pub have risen. Some of these are simple and obvious price rises that eat into margins, but others are regulatory changes, etc that have increased costs.
Wages make up the biggest element of course. At the moment, the labour market is very tight for some reason. Well I can think of a couple of reasons. Regardless, wage prices are moving higher and higher to just be able to staff pubs well enough to meet holiday allowances.
The pandemic has also meant that there is a lot of debt that will be added to the pile. Here’s a brief snapshot of some of the costs the average publican will be paying from the price of the pint.
Wages
N I - Employers
Pension Employer
Temporary Contract
Rates - Property
Rates - Water
Rent Paid
Electricity
Gas
Travelling
Printing & Stationary
Stocktaking Fees
Cleaning
Trade Waste
Laundry
Repairs & Renewals - Premises
Repairs & Renewals - Equipment
Bank Charges
Advertising
Entertainment
General Expenses
Glasses
Insurance
Licences
Alarm/Security
Door Staff
Subscriptions
Internet/Computer Costs
Training Costs
Uniforms
Put simply, the price of a pint in the hand in a pub consists of a lot more than just the price of the beer from the Brewer/Supplier.
Hope that helps.
Pubs generally buy in the beer they sell at not much less than it can be bought in the supermarket. Obviously the bigger you are (Wetherspoons), the greater the purchasing power and the cheaper it will be from the supplier. But if you are a PubCo tenant, with one pub, locked into a supply agreement… To say this has been a point of contention for the on-trade for many years, would be rather a big understatement.
All pubs will sell at whatever gets the most pints sold at the highest price. Supply & demand, economics 101. The same goes for the biggest group/brewery to the smallest single operator pub.
Obviously all publicans are in it to make a profit and would, of course, like to be able to buy a Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren etc. No different from any other business. Risks are taken with capital and returns are hoped for/expected. Unsurprisingly, most will not be able to buy a Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren etc.
Prices have risen as all the other costs of running a pub have risen. Some of these are simple and obvious price rises that eat into margins, but others are regulatory changes, etc that have increased costs.
Wages make up the biggest element of course. At the moment, the labour market is very tight for some reason. Well I can think of a couple of reasons. Regardless, wage prices are moving higher and higher to just be able to staff pubs well enough to meet holiday allowances.
The pandemic has also meant that there is a lot of debt that will be added to the pile. Here’s a brief snapshot of some of the costs the average publican will be paying from the price of the pint.
Wages
N I - Employers
Pension Employer
Temporary Contract
Rates - Property
Rates - Water
Rent Paid
Electricity
Gas
Travelling
Printing & Stationary
Stocktaking Fees
Cleaning
Trade Waste
Laundry
Repairs & Renewals - Premises
Repairs & Renewals - Equipment
Bank Charges
Advertising
Entertainment
General Expenses
Glasses
Insurance
Licences
Alarm/Security
Door Staff
Subscriptions
Internet/Computer Costs
Training Costs
Uniforms
Put simply, the price of a pint in the hand in a pub consists of a lot more than just the price of the beer from the Brewer/Supplier.
Hope that helps.
Edited by Leithen on Saturday 22 January 09:38
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Chorlton in Manchester. Its a dirty heavy traffic suburb of Manchester full of redbrick terraces. Yet the bars charge 3-4 for a half
That's a slightly mis-leading description of Chorlton. It's always been fairly expensive. It's a fairly affluent place with almost constantly very busy bars and restaurants. A mixture of young people and artsy/academic older people (along with all sorts of others).Very similar to some places I've been to in London.
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