45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 13)

[Byker28i]

trumps at it again - more lies

[Byker28i]

Cawthorn has shut down his PAC, after only raising $21k
https://www.businessinsider.com/madison-cawthorn-s...

[InformationSuperHighway]

Byker28i said:

trumps at it again - more lies

Like him or not, he is not technically lying.

He is posing a very provocative question and suggesting for sure...

[deckster]

InformationSuperHighway said:

Byker28i said:

trumps at it again - more lies

Like him or not, he is not technically lying.

He is posing a very provocative question and suggesting for sure...

He is lying. He specifically says "Stop finding votes in Pennsylvania". They are not finding votes in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else, even when Trump specifically told them to).

The US definitely has an issue with the length of time it takes to count votes. But to say that the process is a laughing stock is to over-egg the pudding. If nothing else, the events of the last Presidential election show that the process, once it's run its course, is admirably transparent and robust.

[captain_cynic]

deckster said:

He is lying. He specifically says "Stop finding votes in Pennsylvania". They are not finding votes in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else, even when Trump specifically told them to).

The US definitely has an issue with the length of time it takes to count votes. But to say that the process is a laughing stock is to over-egg the pudding. If nothing else, the events of the last Presidential election show that the process, once it's run its course, is admirably transparent and robust.

Whilst Trump is certainly lying, it's not unusual for a system as complex as th US to take a while to count votes.

Australia is having an election this weekend and in recent years it's taken up to 2 weeks to declare a winner when you have to start counting preference votes.

I believe in the US different states can have different voting mechanisms.

[HM-2]

captain_cynic said:

I believe in the US different states can have different voting mechanisms.

IIRC they're all essentially first past the post, it's the way those votes are translated that becomes problematic.

[Byker28i]

Putin was frustrated with trump because he kept having to explain things to him, said Fiona Hill.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-frustrated-c...

[NMNeil]

deckster said:

InformationSuperHighway said:

Byker28i said:

trumps at it again - more lies

Like him or not, he is not technically lying.

He is posing a very provocative question and suggesting for sure...

He is lying. He specifically says "Stop finding votes in Pennsylvania". They are not finding votes in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else, even when Trump specifically told them to).

The US definitely has an issue with the length of time it takes to count votes. But to say that the process is a laughing stock is to over-egg the pudding. If nothing else, the events of the last Presidential election show that the process, once it's run its course, is admirably transparent and robust.

"As of Wednesday morning, the state said there were 105,000 mail ballots in Pennsylvania that still needed to be counted. At least one-third are expected to be Republican."

That number was below 70,000 as of 3:30 p.m. Wednesday.

In Lancaster County, workers are hand counting 16,000 misprinted mail ballots. Officials said they're about halfway done."

And mail in ballots are a very contentious issue after the 2020 election with some states now trying to limit their use because of abuses.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations...

Bottom line, US elections are a total stshow.

[NMNeil]

I forgot to add, if the result is close it triggers an automatic recount, which they would rather avoid because of the cost and delay. Better to get it right the first time.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsyl...

[Byker28i]

Alex Jones doesn't learn or care, no claims Buffalo shooting was a staged event
https://www.mediamatters.org/alex-jones/alex-jones...

[Byker28i]

Barr is now in discussion for a formal interview with the trump insurrection investigation. He really has been tryin g to get his side over in interviews, reminding people he resigned before trumps insurrection day (or because of the planning?).
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/19/bill-barr-jan6-co...

Remember Barr resigned on 14 Dec, at the time the faked electors plan was in full flow, trump was pushing him to declare the election as fraudulent. We know that Powell, Giuliani and Flynn were all at meetings prior, pushing conspiracy theories to trump,whilst Eastman, Meadows were tellign trump he could decalre the election as invalid. They had the plan for the fake electors and fake electoral votes.
trump finally found the line Barr wouldn't cross for him.

https://oversight.house.gov/news/press-releases/ne...
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Int...

[hidetheelephants]

Tucky O'Rose asked Hunter Biden for a favour.

Hypocritical tt asked for help getting son into Georgetown university in Washington.

[Byker28i]

The trump insurrection investigation has asked for Republican Rep. Barry Loudermilk to be interviewed by them, saying he lied about no tours were given through the Capitol Capitol complex the day before trumps coup attempt.

The committee;s letter to Loudermilk says that Republicans on the House Administration Committee, including Loudermilk had previously reviewed security footage from that day and claimed there were no tours, but Thompson and Cheney said the committee’s review of the evidence “directly contradicts that denial” that there were no tours.

Loudermilk is now saying that no member of the group he led “has been investigated or charged in connection to January 6th.”

Remember Loudermilk filed an ethics complaint over the allegations there were reconnaissance tours days before the attack
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/19/politics/barry-...

Letter here:
https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.janua...

I wonder what other Georgia representatives they know about giving tours...

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 20th May 06:50

[Byker28i]

hidetheelephants said:

Tucky O'Rose asked Hunter Biden for a favour.

Hypocritical tt asked for help getting son into Georgetown university in Washington.

Interesting, whys that in the news again now? It came out last December
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/tucker-car...

Is this Carlson going to be under pressure for his promotion of white replacement, which he's pushed over 400 times on his show, following Buffalo, or is this another attempt to push the Hunter Biden laptop story?

We know the mails and other photos etc were robbed from his cloud account to give the claimed laptop disk a hint of authenticity. W also know there are claims now of many copies, they've been through many hands and a lot has been dismissed as russian disinformation, most likely obtained by Giuliani from his russian agent contacts in Ukraine as he sought to manufacture dirt on Biden.

Interesting this alleged laptop story comes around again like a bad penny, just as we find out tours were given of the capitol, the public hearings are about to start...

Why have the GOP repeatedly denied any tours took place, when we know they did, this is the second we know of now. What are they covering up?

It's no wonder they keep trying this disinformation story - it's all they have, weak as it is.

Edit:Questions asked about the coverup, if GOP members will face charges

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 20th May 07:01

[Byker28i]

InformationSuperHighway said:

Byker28i said:

trumps at it again - more lies

Like him or not, he is not technically lying.

He is posing a very provocative question and suggesting for sure...

trump has spent over 18 months moaning and lying about the election being stolen and is desperate to carry on accusing US elections of being fraudulent, he just can't get over that he lose - Bigly! This is just a continuation and his attempt to muddy the waters, declare everything is fraudulent so he can continue to complain about losing, how it was so unfair...

[Byker28i]

A judge ruled yesterday that Lindell will face sanctions against him and his lawyers as part of a decision throwing out the Lindells defamation lawsuits against Dominion Voting Systems Inc. and Smartmatic Corp, which Lindell filed in response to their suit against Lindell.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/mypillow...

[Byker28i]

The trump insurrection investigation have the photos from WH photographer Shealah Craighead (th one trump stiffed by stealing her photos and publishing them in a book whn she refused to give him a cut of the books profits).

They mostly have a minute by minute account now of trumps movements and actions on 6 Jan. They also have other photos taken that day
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/19/jan-6-whi...

[Byker28i]

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson has claimed that trump suggested she be arrested for treason and executed because she wouldn't overturn the election results in his favour.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/mic...

[deckster]

NMNeil said:

And mail in ballots are a very contentious issue after the 2020 election with some states now trying to limit their use because of abuses.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations...

Couple of points of information on that.

(1) They are still counting mail-in ballots because Republicans have repeatedly blocked attempts to allow them to start counting before election day.
(2) Some Republican-led states are trying to limit mail-in ballots because they are disproportionately used by minority groups who tend to vote Democrat. Every claim that mail-in ballots are subject to greater abuse than in-person voting has been debunked.
(3) The poor performance of USPS during the 2020 Presidential election was the direct and intended consequence of Trump installing his patsy Louis Dejoy as Postmaster General a few months earlier, who made it his mission to dismantle and sabotage as much of the mail-in voting system as he could.

[Byker28i]

deckster said:

NMNeil said:

And mail in ballots are a very contentious issue after the 2020 election with some states now trying to limit their use because of abuses.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations...

Couple of points of information on that.

(1) They are still counting mail-in ballots because Republicans have repeatedly blocked attempts to allow them to start counting before election day.
(2) Some Republican-led states are trying to limit mail-in ballots because they are disproportionately used by minority groups who tend to vote Democrat. Every claim that mail-in ballots are subject to greater abuse than in-person voting has been debunked.
(3) The poor performance of USPS during the 2020 Presidential election was the direct and intended consequence of Trump installing his patsy Louis Dejoy as Postmaster General a few months earlier, who made it his mission to dismantle and sabotage as much of the mail-in voting system as he could.

Exactly this, trump did his best to block/corrupt mail in voting as he knew it would be used heavily by those not voting GOP, and thats why there's been so many attempts by the GOP to further block it, whilst shouting fraud again, even though all the fraud has so far been republican voters, republican staffers