45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 13)

[Byker28i]

Oh Johnson was lying again, when he tried lying about getting the faked electors to Pence, said he didn't know where they came from, he was just passing something...

Mike Kelly has said these allegations from senator Ron Johnson are patently false. He says he hasn't talked to the senator in the better half of a decade and he has no idea what Johnson is talking about
Video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1540146041839837184

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 24th June 06:48

[Byker28i]

Fox news shows it's worried now the DOJ are starting to take action

[Byker28i]

Boebart is losing the lease to her Shooters restaurant, the new owner says he has a moral reason to end her lease and let it to someone else for another restaurant. She says she may try to buy the building.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-it-last-call-for-...

[Byker28i]

More turn in evidence against trump.

Brian Kemp, the Republican governor of Georgia will testify via videotape before the special grand jury investigating Donald Trump's attempted coup, led by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. This will be on 25 July and his office also received as subpoena for documents, which must be turned over 72 hours in advance.

[Byker28i]

Remember all those reports of trump selling pardons. Now we have testimony of those requesting very broad pardons...


Remember Jared Kushner testified he was “working on pardons” during the exact time period all these Members of Congress were asking for them.

[Starfighter]

Byker28i said:

Snip...

Mo Brooks

How can "general (all purpose) pardons" be legal?

The principle of the pardon is supposed to be for a specific offence where the applicant / recipient is seen to be guilty. Do "general (all purpose) pardons" actually cover anything and everything? Can they only be used once or is it effectively a get out of jail card to be abused...

Ah, I may have answered my own question here.

[Al Gorithum]

Saw the British film maker on the telly this morning, who did the documentary on Trump that the Select Committee is going to use.

He says that Trump truly believes that the election was stolen. If so is that a game changer? Less of a cunning criminal and more a deluded idiot? Hopefully won't stop him being made accountable for the crimes though...

[Blackpuddin]

Al Gorithum said:

Trump truly believes that the election was stolen. If so is that a game changer? Less of a cunning criminal and more a deluded idiot? Hopefully won't stop him being made accountable for the crimes though...

Ignorance is no defence. It just means he's ignorant.

[98elise]

Starfighter said:

Byker28i said:

Snip...

Mo Brooks

How can "general (all purpose) pardons" be legal?

The principle of the pardon is supposed to be for a specific offence where the applicant / recipient is seen to be guilty. Do "general (all purpose) pardons" actually cover anything and everything? Can they only be used once or is it effectively a get out of jail card to be abused...

Ah, I may have answered my own question here.

I find it bizarre that a president has the power to pardon criminal activity at all.

Pardons should be for miscarriages of justice or the greater good, not because a criminal is your friend.

[paulguitar]

Blackpuddin said:

Al Gorithum said:

Trump truly believes that the election was stolen. If so is that a game changer? Less of a cunning criminal and more a deluded idiot? Hopefully won't stop him being made accountable for the crimes though...

Ignorance is no defence. It just means he's ignorant.

If trump genuinely believes the election was stolen, it suggests his mental illness has reached a point where he is not connecting with reality at all. I want to see trump and his appalling family held accountable for their actions, but bone spurs himself really needs professional psychological help to deal with his delusions.

[dukeboy749r]

paulguitar said:

If trump genuinely believes the election was stolen, it suggests his mental illness has reached a point where he is not connecting with reality at all. I want to see trump and his appalling family held accountable for their actions, but bone spurs himself really needs professional psychological help to deal with his delusions.

I don't believe he is delusional.

A lying, fraud yes. I think he was convinced by others (more clever than him) that there was a way to 'win' even if they lost.

He bought into that - he still lost, but cannot now back away from perpetuating the lie.

Plus, if you repeat something often enough it becomes your personal 'truth'

[Byker28i]

dukeboy749r said:

paulguitar said:

If trump genuinely believes the election was stolen, it suggests his mental illness has reached a point where he is not connecting with reality at all. I want to see trump and his appalling family held accountable for their actions, but bone spurs himself really needs professional psychological help to deal with his delusions.

I don't believe he is delusional.

A lying, fraud yes. I think he was convinced by others (more clever than him) that there was a way to 'win' even if they lost.

He bought into that - he still lost, but cannot now back away from perpetuating the lie.

Plus, if you repeat something often enough it becomes your personal 'truth'

There's also the whole trump thing of him calling people losers, it's the biggest insult he can think of, coupled with his insecurities about being the best ever, having the biggest crowd, the highest rating... so when he lost and lost hugely, in fact the same that Clinton lost to him... it hurts him, he can't accept he lost.

Remember he surrounded himself with sycophants, ambitious people willing to do anything trump wanted if it profited them. All those promises of positions of power, money etc, all believing trumps promises (we know trumps one true skill is conning people)

He's in the bubble of magalago or his golf clubs where those few people greet him with adoration... So he's in a bubble of everyone agreeing with him, doing what he wants, detached from reality, which is why it's still going on...

There's no defence to his crimes. There's been his family and team trump members telling him he lost (or testifying to that). He was at the center of it, knew everything, was being kept informed because those lackeys wanted him to know, wanted his praise...

[tangerine_sedge]

Byker28i said:

There's also the whole trump thing of him calling people losers, it's the biggest insult he can think of, coupled with his insecurities about being the best ever, having the biggest crowd, the highest rating... so when he lost and lost hugely, in fact the same that Clinton lost to him... it hurts him, he can't accept he lost.

It's at this point in the future trump biopic, that there's a black and white flashback to his childhood, where his father is repeatedly calling him a loser, whilst figures of his peers flash around him laughing. He eventually collapses to the ground in tears and drops his snowglobe golf clubs.

I think you're right, trump needs to win at any cost, and I think when his losing plan to steal the presidencey is laid out in simple terms, he'll irrationally still cling onto thinking he won, because the alternative is unthinkable to him - for all the privileged life benefits he's had, all the laws he's broken, all the bailouts he's been given, he's still the bigliest loser.

[Byker28i]

Remember how trump paid off ex employees to keep quiet, how his ex bodyguard and woman finder Schiller was paid a monthly fee from the NRC for 'security consultation'.

Remember how Omarosa Onee Manigault Newman said she was paid $15k a month to keep quiet and several more had been as well.
Remember how trumps campaign records showed that was true.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/omarosa-price-silence-tr...

Not so strange then to find that Jeffrey Clark is now employed by The Center for Renewing America - Jeffrey Clark’s employer, a project of the Conservative Partnership Institute which is run by Mark Meadows, Cleta Mitchell, Jim DeMint, and funded in part by trump’s leadership PAC.
https://twitter.com/ericuman/status/15400909202212...

Also employed there is Kash PAtel, digging into italian satellite and voting machines, and his dodgy film, 'the plot against the president'
quite the trump rogues gallery


A go fund me...

[Byker28i]

tangerine_sedge said:

Byker28i said:

There's also the whole trump thing of him calling people losers, it's the biggest insult he can think of, coupled with his insecurities about being the best ever, having the biggest crowd, the highest rating... so when he lost and lost hugely, in fact the same that Clinton lost to him... it hurts him, he can't accept he lost.

It's at this point in the future trump biopic, that there's a black and white flashback to his childhood, where his father is repeatedly calling him a loser, whilst figures of his peers flash around him laughing. He eventually collapses to the ground in tears and drops his snowglobe golf clubs.

I think you're right, trump needs to win at any cost, and I think when his losing plan to steal the presidencey is laid out in simple terms, he'll irrationally still cling onto thinking he won, because the alternative is unthinkable to him - for all the privileged life benefits he's had, all the laws he's broken, all the bailouts he's been given, he's still the bigliest loser.

The other big thing with trumps childhood is his mother, a powerful, dominent figure in his life and the reason trump needs to demean women, why he probably sexually assaults them and as some have claimed, rapes. It's to get back against that dominence his mother had over him.

It's why he hates that women are prosecuting him, both in NY and Georgia, why he's always been against powerful women, which is why it's appropriate it'll be two powerful women who take him down.

[Al Gorithum]

Byker28i said:

...which is why it's appropriate it'll be two powerful women who take him down.

That will be delicious

[Byker28i]

Oh look, another go fund me. Another let someone else pay

[captain_cynic]

paulguitar said:

Blackpuddin said:

Al Gorithum said:

Trump truly believes that the election was stolen. If so is that a game changer? Less of a cunning criminal and more a deluded idiot? Hopefully won't stop him being made accountable for the crimes though...

Ignorance is no defence. It just means he's ignorant.

If trump genuinely believes the election was stolen, it suggests his mental illness has reached a point where he is not connecting with reality at all. I want to see trump and his appalling family held accountable for their actions, but bone spurs himself really needs professional psychological help to deal with his delusions.

Is there any question trump is a deluded fool?

The thing about lying successfully is that you need to believe your own BS to sell it and that is Trump's only real talent. Selling BS to bigger or greedier idiots than himself.

He's isn't a master criminal like Capone who could walk into and out of court like he was untouchable. Trump has been relying on selling people down the river to keep himself out of court and he's running out of people to throw in front of the bus.

Also the people who he's thrown in front of the bus are turnong on him.

I said it years ago, he is a criminal and not a smart one. He's not smart enough to cover his own tracks and now we're all seeing it (unless you're the fool who's bought Trump's BS).

[Al Gorithum]

Byker28i said:

"Let's beat the fascist b@st@rds" says the fascist b@st@ard. Oh dear...

[Byker28i]

Did Marge ask for a pardon, after only being in office 3 days? There's a lot of details happening, a lot of distraction and accusations being thrown around..