Will you continue to wear a mask in public after Jan 27th?

[GSE]

It’s so good to be back to pre-2020 normality now (well mostly..) “You don’t know what you had until it’s gone” comes to mind.

Right from the start I was very concerned that we could have ended up - thanks to the “no biggie” lot - sleepwalking into a compulsory mask up & “papers please” society, something that Communist Susan Michie of SAGE, Hancock, Whitty and all the rest would have loved to see no doubt. Thank God there was a lot of pushback and it didn’t happen. What happened to all the resident masketeers that used to plague this place? It seems far more civilised here now. The garden gnome, the tape loop, the game show host? Taken out by the forum rule change? May be they are out of work now as masks are no longer compulsory…

I have been to 3 concerts lately at large venues, and at all of them not a single mask was observed, with the exception of one show where all the front line stage crew were wearing one, probably the company they work for requires it as a condition of employment? Elsewhere I hardly see any mask wearing now, even on public transport it’s in the minority. We still have a few hardcore mask wearers at work though, that have been brainwashed into wearing one full time, it looks like they are going to be wearing one for the rest of their lives. Mind you, they have the BBC on all day long, so it’s understandable.

I too am wondering what the rhetoric will be from the Government as we approach winter 2022…mask up again? Surely few people will comply even those with half a brain can see the mask nonsense for what it was.

Muse - Compliance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP3zRBtgvJo

[dave_s13]

I think lack of forum engagement is partly due to certain folk getting banned from the individual threads. And because they aresnt ticking over at the speed they were and resetting than ban with a new volume it looks like they've disappeared.

I'm banned of the cure worse than the disease thread for being abusive toward one if the usual suspects. So elniw excluded from that discussion.

It's a pretty st rule by PH to be honest. Bans should time out and then strike out I reckon.

[Ari]

GSE said:

What happened to all the resident masketeers that used to plague this place? It seems far more civilised here now. The garden gnome, the tape loop, the game show host? Taken out by the forum rule change? May be they are out of work now as masks are no longer compulsory…

A very good question. I can't imagine that they've been banned, their 'insults' never really got beyond a rather infantile level, certainly not banworthy.

I assume that since it's become SO blindingly obvious that the rhetoric they clung to so vociferously was utter nonsense that they just slunk quietly away rather than doing the adult thing and admitting that they got carried away with it and were wrong.

[dave_s13]

Reply from my MP. I asked a question around there being any conservative plans to nudge the NHS into taking a more measured approach to their insistence on maintaining restrictions.

[voyds9]

dave_s13 said:

Reply from my MP. I asked a question around there being any conservative plans to nudge the NHS into taking a more measured approach to their insistence on maintaining restrictions.

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

[dave_s13]

voyds9 said:

dave_s13 said:

Reply from my MP. I asked a question around there being any conservative plans to nudge the NHS into taking a more measured approach to their insistence on maintaining restrictions.

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

My question was framed around both patients and staff being forced to comply and to consider the illogical and damaging effects that has as well. Not just mask wearing but continued enforced (effectively) working from home and all the social distancing vollocks.

[21TonyK]

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

I assume the logic being you are not inches away from each others face in a pub?

[bad company]

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

Interesting. I’m due to book my eye test and generally hate masks. You do get very close to the opticians though.

[Vanden Saab]

21TonyK said:

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

I assume the logic being you are not inches away from each others face in a pub?

What possible difference would that make with an airborne virus?

[anonymous-user]

21TonyK said:

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

I assume the logic being you are not inches away from each others face in a pub?

Logic?

[Cold]

garyhun said:

21TonyK said:

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

I assume the logic being you are not inches away from each others face in a pub?

Logic?

Yep, same logic as vaccines enthusiasts. Wearing a mask will only work if the other person is wearing one too. Otherwise the wearer will become infected because their mask needs two masks to be effective.

[pincher]

Mandatory wearing of face masks in airports and on European flights 'no longer recommended'


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mandatory-wear...

[Ari]

FAN BLOODY TASTIC!

Let's hope that the pointless wretched things are gone for good.

[Ari]

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

[Byker28i]

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

[Biker 1]

voyds9 said:

Only for patients, we (opticians) have just been advised to continue with mask wear for all staff and twice weekly LTF testing.

We have now got to the point if I test positive I cannot go to work but can sit in the pub with all the patients I can't test.

I had an eye test last September. All the staff & other punters in Specsavers were masked up - I wasn't, but nobody said anything. I was in there for about an hour & didn't die of covid.

[Biker 1]

pincher said:

Mandatory wearing of face masks in airports and on European flights 'no longer recommended'


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-mandatory-wear...

Do you reckon that includes cross-Channel ferries to France?

[anonymous-user]

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

They just can’t help themselves, can they?

Why can’t they just give us the good news and stop there. aholes, the lot of them.

[Ari]

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

And there it is, the one (widely discredited) study in a completely different part of the world that gets trotted out again and again.

Meanwhile, slightly closer to home, England dropped its mask mandate (that made zero difference when it was brought in) and immediately did better than Scotland and Wales which kept theirs.

Even a government study set up specifically to justify forcing face masks on school children failed to do so. They carried on making kids wear them in school anyway, proving that it was never about whether they work or not, it was all just all theatre.

[paulguitar]

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

If they are effective in the real world, what is the story with Scotland doing much worse for covid cases than England, with mandatory masks in Scotland but no masks in England?