Will you continue to wear a mask in public after Jan 27th?

[hotchy]

paulguitar said:

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

If they are effective in the real world, what is the story with Scotland doing much worse for covid cases than England, with mandatory masks in Scotland but no masks in England?

Don't forget scotlands numbers have been plummeting since masks removed.

[Roderick Spode]

hotchy said:

paulguitar said:

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

If they are effective in the real world, what is the story with Scotland doing much worse for covid cases than England, with mandatory masks in Scotland but no masks in England?

Don't forget scotlands numbers have been plummeting since masks removed.

It's a real world case study as well, as the numbers now choosing to wear a comfort blanket / badge of virtue is in the low single percentage range in most settings. Was at a gig last week in Edinburgh, where the clientele tended towards the middle aged middle class demographic, and even in that environment the mask wearing was probably 20ish out of a crowd of 2,000. Big signs everywhere saying MASKS ARE MANDATORY were completely ignored. I did notice a small group in front of us in the queue dutifully mask up, enter the venue, had a look around and noticed nobody else had bothered, and dispensed with the life saving panacea. The results in case numbers reinforce the hypothesis that masks are worse than useless.

[remedy]

paulguitar said:

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

If they are effective in the real world, what is the story with Scotland doing much worse for covid cases than England, with mandatory masks in Scotland but no masks in England?

Or that Germany, who mandated FFP2 masks everywhere since Nov 21 had the same up and down trajectory as UK, Scotland and Sweden despite different masking rules.

Note the study above was Sep 21. Then the real world happened and immediately disproved their findings!

[Ari]

Exactly! And yet we still have important organisations such as the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC stating as fact: face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

This is the reason I fear these things will be forced upon us again the moment we get a bad flu season or whatever, because it's become an unquestionable doctrine.

[Gary C]

Bloody hell. Off to London to watch a show next week and they are demanding vaccination passes.

Thought we were done with all this.

[bad company]

Gary C said:

Bloody hell. Off to London to watch a show next week and they are demanding vaccination passes.

Thought we were done with all this.

What show? I’m amazed.

[Brave Fart]

Byker28i said:

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

I'm sorry but it really wasn't. The Nature article you quote was based on erroneous claims made by the authors of the Bangladesh study.
The authors then released the raw data, allowing critics to fully understand the study.
It became very clear that the study was deeply flawed; even the claim it made regarding medical masks was discredited.

If you're interested, this analysis explains why it was not a very good study and certainly not conclusive:
https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~brecht/papers/CP...

[kingston12]

bad company said:

Gary C said:

Bloody hell. Off to London to watch a show next week and they are demanding vaccination passes.

Thought we were done with all this.

What show? I’m amazed.

Indeed. I've been to two West End shows in the last six weeks or so and neither even said at booking that a pass would be required and there was certainly no mention of it when we got there.

The proportion wearing masks was tiny at the first show and zero (as far as I could see) at the second one last week,

[anonymous-user]

kingston12 said:

bad company said:

Gary C said:

Bloody hell. Off to London to watch a show next week and they are demanding vaccination passes.

Thought we were done with all this.

What show? I’m amazed.

Indeed. I've been to two West End shows in the last six weeks or so and neither even said at booking that a pass would be required and there was certainly no mention of it when we got there.

The proportion wearing masks was tiny at the first show and zero (as far as I could see) at the second one last week,

It’s probably Question Time

[bad company]

garyhun said:

It’s probably Question Time

Yep. That’s plausible.

[bodhi]

Quick question folks. I'm due to fly to Texas tomorrow via BA - should I bring my lanyard or will masks be optional on the way over?

[Brave Fart]

bad company said:

garyhun said:

It’s probably Question Time

Yep. That’s plausible.

Is it me, or are they still doing social distancing in the QT audience? If they are, then frankly WTF?

[pincher]

bodhi said:

Quick question folks. I'm due to fly to Texas tomorrow via BA - should I bring my lanyard or will masks be optional on the way over?

I don't think you'll have any problems. with masks given that the mandate has been dropped in the US

[Seventy]

bodhi said:

Quick question folks. I'm due to fly to Texas tomorrow via BA - should I bring my lanyard or will masks be optional on the way over?

If you have a genuine medical exemption then why are you worried?

[Gary C]

garyhun said:

kingston12 said:

bad company said:

Gary C said:

Bloody hell. Off to London to watch a show next week and they are demanding vaccination passes.

Thought we were done with all this.

What show? I’m amazed.

Indeed. I've been to two West End shows in the last six weeks or so and neither even said at booking that a pass would be required and there was certainly no mention of it when we got there.

The proportion wearing masks was tiny at the first show and zero (as far as I could see) at the second one last week,

It’s probably Question Time

Piccadilly theatre

Its on the ATG tickets site but I'm now wondering if its just a hangover from when I booked.

Ah, apparently its people in the front row (Can Can seats) that need it because of the 'proximity of your seats to the performers'

Wonder what they think people are going to do !

Edited by Gary C on Wednesday 11th May 19:49

[mike80]

I flew to Italy today. Masks very thin on the ground at Heathrow, bar one person in full hazmat suit and visor, which was quite bizarre...

No masks til we were on the plane (BA) where we were asked if we had one, or they could give us one. Reminded via announcement that they were still required on public transport in Italy. Most seemed to take them off fairly quickly

Hardly a mask to be seen in Italy in restaurants etc. All feels so normal!

[Timothy Bucktu]

Seventy said:

bodhi said:

Quick question folks. I'm due to fly to Texas tomorrow via BA - should I bring my lanyard or will masks be optional on the way over?

If you have a genuine medical exemption then why are you worried?

I still have my 'exemption' lanyard in the drawer just in case.

[g3org3y]

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

Except it wasn't.

This has been discussed extensively here with the raw data actually revealing that the original conclusions were somewhat 'disingenuous' shall we say.

Try and keep up, thanks.

[nick30]

g3org3y said:

Byker28i said:

Ari said:

The move, announced by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and ECDC, is due to come into force on 16 May. Both authorities have advised travellers that, despite the rule being lifted, face masks remain "one of the best protections" against COVID-19.

Really? Any real world evidence for that? At all?

Well the Bangladesh study was pretty conclusive
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02457-y

Except it wasn't.

This has been discussed extensively here with the raw data actually revealing that the original conclusions were somewhat 'disingenuous' shall we say.

Try and keep up, thanks.

Yeah and don’t you have a president you need to beast daily or should I say hourly.

[Supercilious Sid]

nick30 said:

Yeah and don’t you have a president you need to beast daily or should I say hourly.

That is utterly bizarre behaviour.