CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)
Discussion
Carl_Manchester said:
Had the booster on 15th May, went on holiday and caught Rona again for the second time during the journey home this week. Now isolating.
Just got it for the first time after travelling back from Greece on Monday. Missed a wedding this weekend as seemed unfair to cough and splutter all over fellow guests.Carl_Manchester said:
Had the booster on 15th May, went on holiday and caught Rona again for the second time during the journey home this week. Now isolating.
Effective. Honk honkIn other news climate change is killing Aussies.
Juanco20 said:
Going on holiday in 2 weeks so went for a walk in booster yesterday just to avoid the drama of missing a holiday if I tested positive plus being £50 better off
I was the only one there, in and out in 2 minutes. Not feeling too great this morning though
Some people are getting covid immediately following the injections (A&E saw an influx when the rollout started). I assume you don’t have to do lateral flow tests/ PCR for the destination if you’d had a recent record of injection?I was the only one there, in and out in 2 minutes. Not feeling too great this morning though
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
Some people are getting covid immediately following the injections (A&E saw an influx when the rollout started). I assume you don’t have to do lateral flow tests/ PCR for the destination if you’d had a recent record of injection?
I would imagine so - probably Spain where they still require a test if you are unvaccinated which includes 270 since last Jab if no booster.Iirc a LFT will suffice which is easy to get a negative on...........
Harrison Bergeron said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Had the booster on 15th May, went on holiday and caught Rona again for the second time during the journey home this week. Now isolating.
Effective. Honk honkFirst time Carl? Hopefully you are okay?
Otispunkmeyer said:
On a Lufthansa flight just now. just had the spiel about masks and how they're protecting us during this pandemic.
I guess no one's told them it's not 2020 anymore and it's kind of over now.
Pretty annoying that I'm having to wear one again on the way back to the UK. Ryan air didn't bother with this. The science is pretty clear on masks surely. They're neither here nor there.
I work in telly and one of the studios I do a bit of work for are still in 2020.I guess no one's told them it's not 2020 anymore and it's kind of over now.
Pretty annoying that I'm having to wear one again on the way back to the UK. Ryan air didn't bother with this. The science is pretty clear on masks surely. They're neither here nor there.
You have to sign something online before you come to work.
A nurse double-checks the paperwork and your temp at the door. Masks must be worn and 2m rule still in place.
Very few live guests on show, most on Skype and a skeleton crew.
It's a relief to get back outside to the reality of 2022.
It makes me feel depressed. Luckily I rarely work there.
johnboy1975 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Had the booster on 15th May, went on holiday and caught Rona again for the second time during the journey home this week. Now isolating.
Effective. Honk honkFirst time Carl? Hopefully you are okay?
I feel Feel dizzy right now, I had a 38c fever this morning but as per first time most problems are solved with a couple of nurofen express.
My mate in Birmingham just texted me to say he has tested positive today and he caught it at work. He also caught it first time around December but be he had two shot Pfizer and recovered in about 36 hours.
Data from the Netherlands suggests signs of original antigenic sin for Omicron -
https://mobile.twitter.com/rintrahradagast/status/...
https://mobile.twitter.com/rintrahradagast/status/...
Carl_Manchester said:
Nah this is the second time, I caught it first time on 13th December, I was poorly for about two weeks.
Sounds like you’re one of the lucky 20 million.DM said:
Now a team of researchers have calculated the benefits of the jabs, estimating they saved 19.8million lives across 185 countries within the first 12 months of being used.
OkDM said:
Led by academics at Imperial College London, the team claimed more deaths were prevented in wealthy countries (12.2 million).
Oh. It’s b
ks then. It’s incredible they can claim that. There’s no conclusive evidence anywhere that the vaccines have contributed anything at all. Excess death rates in the UK are trending just as high if not higher than before the vaccines. As was in the official trial data, all cause mortality is not improved by these vaccines.
jameswills said:
It’s incredible they can claim that. There’s no conclusive evidence anywhere that the vaccines have contributed anything at all. Excess death rates in the UK are trending just as high if not higher than before the vaccines. As was in the official trial data, all cause mortality is not improved by these vaccines.
No evidence except the trials that demonstrated reduced mortality, severity and duration of the virus. The reams of data collected in Vivo demonstrating the same thing.Not to mention the fact that hospitalisation and mortality rates rates dropped dramatically with vaccine uptake.
Or the evidence that most patients entering ICU were unvaccinated.
No, no evidence at all.
cliffe_mafia said:
some moron on Twitter is trying to blame vaccines without any evidence or even logic -
https://mobile.twitter.com/rintrahradagast/status/...
Fixed that for you. https://mobile.twitter.com/rintrahradagast/status/...
captain_cynic said:
No evidence except the trials that demonstrated reduced mortality, severity and duration of the virus. The reams of data collected in Vivo demonstrating the same thing.
Not to mention the fact that hospitalisation and mortality rates rates dropped dramatically with vaccine uptake.
Or the evidence that most patients entering ICU were unvaccinated.
No, no evidence at all.
Have you got access to different trial data? All cause mortality was higher in the vaccine group than the placebo. Mortality hasn’t dropped at all since the vaccine, it remains as high as 2020. Unless you have other data to share?Not to mention the fact that hospitalisation and mortality rates rates dropped dramatically with vaccine uptake.
Or the evidence that most patients entering ICU were unvaccinated.
No, no evidence at all.
Citation needed for the ICU claim.
https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/#postvax-st...
More lies from so called 'experts' in California.
'From May 30, 2022 to June 5, 2022, unvaccinated people were 5.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
'From May 30, 2022 to June 5, 2022, unvaccinated people were 8.3 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
'From May 23, 2022 to May 29, 2022, unvaccinated people were 8.3 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
More lies from so called 'experts' in California.
'From May 30, 2022 to June 5, 2022, unvaccinated people were 5.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
'From May 30, 2022 to June 5, 2022, unvaccinated people were 8.3 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
'From May 23, 2022 to May 29, 2022, unvaccinated people were 8.3 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who received their booster dose.'
Edited by Rollin on Saturday 25th June 15:02
jameswills said:
captain_cynic said:
No evidence except the trials that demonstrated reduced mortality, severity and duration of the virus. The reams of data collected in Vivo demonstrating the same thing.
Not to mention the fact that hospitalisation and mortality rates rates dropped dramatically with vaccine uptake.
Or the evidence that most patients entering ICU were unvaccinated.
No, no evidence at all.
Have you got access to different trial data? All cause mortality was higher in the vaccine group than the placebo. Mortality hasn’t dropped at all since the vaccine, it remains as high as 2020. Unless you have other data to share?Not to mention the fact that hospitalisation and mortality rates rates dropped dramatically with vaccine uptake.
Or the evidence that most patients entering ICU were unvaccinated.
No, no evidence at all.
Citation needed for the ICU claim.
ks.Harrison Bergeron said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Nah this is the second time, I caught it first time on 13th December, I was poorly for about two weeks.
Sounds like you’re one of the lucky 20 million.DM said:
Now a team of researchers have calculated the benefits of the jabs, estimating they saved 19.8million lives across 185 countries within the first 12 months of being used.
OkDM said:
Led by academics at Imperial College London, the team claimed more deaths were prevented in wealthy countries (12.2 million).
Oh. It’s bks then. I'd have expected Imperial to be cheerleading harder, didn't they say millions of infections had been prevented in the UK alone? (Ok, turns out "prevented" meant "delayed" - who knew?)
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