CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Seventy said:

Then you’re going to have a pretty sad and lonely existence from now on.

No scoffing.

Worry and pity in equal measure.

Woe is me.

But I'm fine really. It would bother me a lot more to internalise lies and "move on" to fall for the next load of rubbish.

[isaldiri]

BigMon said:

Sagely posting utter cobblers that may well lead someone who is mentally vulnerable to a very dark place indeed. And it should be called out for the utter cobblers that it is.

And you really think that aggressively insulting and mocking those posters is the best way to try to persuade others who might be in a bad place to ignore said cobblers? Someone having a rough time of the pandemic for example is probably rather more likely to be prepared to consider some of the more fringe things for all manner of reasons, some relating directly to the idiocy constantly shown by the authorities.

How you actually think it would be in any way helpful to call them thick CT loons for even beginning to consider some of the wacky stuff is something I remain rather surprised by.

[BigMon]

isaldiri said:

BigMon said:

Sagely posting utter cobblers that may well lead someone who is mentally vulnerable to a very dark place indeed. And it should be called out for the utter cobblers that it is.

And you really think that aggressively insulting and mocking those posters is the best way to try to persuade others who might be in a bad place to ignore said cobblers? Someone having a rough time of the pandemic for example is probably rather more likely to be prepared to consider some of the more fringe things for all manner of reasons, some relating directly to the idiocy constantly shown by the authorities.

How you actually think it would be in any way helpful to call them thick CT loons for even beginning to consider some of the wacky stuff is something I remain rather surprised by.

As opposed to what, saying nothing and let them post consequence free?

I think it should be pointed out that they are talking rubbish, yes. For the reasons I mentioned earlier. I never said anything about aggressively insulting and mocking them.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

BigMon said:

And this has been my issue with some of the content posted in this thread by the like of Globs to name probably the worst offender.

Sagely posting utter cobblers that may well lead someone who is mentally vulnerable to a very dark place indeed. And it should be called out for the utter cobblers that it is.

I've no problem with questioning Covid as a whole and how the vast majority of the western world responded to it. I'm sure there was corruption and backhanders aplenty amongst many other shady practices. Lockdown caused a whole host of problems that we're still working our way through and, again, I have no issue with anyone questioning how it was handled or making suggestions for how we can learn from it if there is a next time.

But, I don't think it was a conspiracy, just (at best) incompetence and metaphorical stumbling in the dark from our leaders.

Unhelpful as some of the wilder fringes of the non-believers may be I still reserve the brunt of my anger for the people who shut down society and signed us up for an unpayable debt for no good reason.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

BigMon said:

As opposed to what, saying nothing and let them post consequence free?

I think it should be pointed out that they are talking rubbish, yes. For the reasons I mentioned earlier. I never said anything about aggressively insulting and mocking them.

This is an interesting juxtaposition. Pointing out the problems with our handling of covid is an unhealthy obsession but pointing out the problems with pointing out those problems is a noble public service.

[BigMon]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

This is an interesting juxtaposition. Pointing out the problems with our handling of covid is an unhealthy obsession but pointing out the problems with pointing out those problems is a noble public service.

Why not quote my previous post which utterly refutes your statement above?

[JuanCarlosFandango]

BigMon said:

Why not quote my previous post which utterly refutes your statement above?

I did. Above. It's vaguely interesting in the way that it's vaguely interesting that the USSR had pretty decent public transport but it doesn't excuse them holding the world to ransom on pain of nuclear armageddon.

[BigMon]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

BigMon said:

Why not quote my previous post which utterly refutes your statement above?

I did. Above. It's vaguely interesting in the way that it's vaguely interesting that the USSR had pretty decent public transport but it doesn't excuse them holding the world to ransom on pain of nuclear armageddon.

Well, as I said, the vast majority of the Western world took more or less the same approach so I guess we're all in it together.

I'm not saying it was the right approach, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I have no argument with enquiries being held into how it was all handled, or campaigns for something like that. Everyone should be able to learn from past mistakes.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

BigMon said:

Well, as I said, the vast majority of the Western world took more or less the same approach so I guess we're all in it together.

I'm not saying it was the right approach, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I have no argument with enquiries being held into how it was all handled, or campaigns for something like that. Everyone should be able to learn from past mistakes.

That's the problem. Foresight is also a wonderful thing and it turns out the foresght we had was way batter than "following the science " we implemented. So why is hindsight now telling us that foresight would have been better?

[BigMon]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

That's the problem. Foresight is also a wonderful thing and it turns out the foresght we had was way batter than "following the science " we implemented. So why is hindsight now telling us that foresight would have been better?

I have no idea what you're hoping for, but I doubt very much there will be a modern-day Nuremburg trial of the great and the good who led us through Covi.

If you think some great injustice has been perpetuated then I guess you really need to try to do something about it with like-minded people.

I would imagine most people just want to move forward with their lives and get on with 'it' as best they can. I don't think that makes them 'sheeple', just ordinary folk muddling through.

Edited by BigMon on Friday 17th March 23:46

[RSTurboPaul]

Seventy said:

You know what, Paul, I was going to have a ball and look back through the early volumes of this thread but they don’t seem to be there anymore.
Maybe it’s my search capabilities!

They’d show you - usually in the early hours of the morning - posting ridiculous links, usually post scripted by ‘tin foil may be needed’ or similar.

Do you remember that!

Do you remember posters saying that the vaccine would turn you off and that it was all about population control amongst other such rubbish?

I do, and I’m sure you do too.

Where’s SteveT350 and his ilk nowadays?

Eta that there are and have been a lot of clearly vulnerable and gullible people on this thread since its inception.
People who asked where to buy crossbows.
People who wouldn’t be able to differentiate truth from fiction.

Posting the laughable rubbish that has been posted over the last 18 volumes has not helped them at all.
And that is abhorrent, and unforgivable.

They’ve failed to extricate themselves from threads such as this (and probably on other forums) BECAUSE of the rubbish that you and others like you have posted.

I hope you’re happy with yourself.

Edited by Seventy on Friday 17th March 19:52

Could you tell me what the original post said before the edit?
Cheers.

[JagLover]

Covid inquiry to likely take another seven years and £114m already spent, a large part of which is going into the pockets of 150 lawyers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/17/covid-...

[anonymous-user]

JagLover said:

Covid inquiry to likely take another seven years and £114m already spent, a large part of which is going into the pockets of 150 lawyers.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/17/covid-...

That’s what you want though, right?

[scenario8]

Aside from the generally being mean to each other for a moment…

Djokovic denied entry into the US once more due to his vaccination status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/64997434

Seems crazy to me. Again.

[tim0409]

scenario8 said:

Seems crazy to me. Again.

The vaccine requirements made very little sense 2 years ago, now they are completely bonkers and there is zero evidence to support them.

[untakenname]

The rules make no sense, earlier this year I was given a mask on entry to the dentists and due to having the first appointment of the day was the only one in the waiting room yet within seconds of taking the mask off I got a chastised so must have been monitored via the CCTV.



This tweet from an MP is going viral as YouTube is now censuring parliamentary debate
https://twitter.com/ABridgen/status/16368245453309...

All he did yesterday was quote statistics in parliament so imo it should be allowed.

[Elysium]

scenario8 said:

Aside from the generally being mean to each other for a moment…

Djokovic denied entry into the US once more due to his vaccination status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/64997434

Seems crazy to me. Again.

He just needs to move on. I can’t believe he is still going on about COVID. He should just cheer himself up by going out for a walk.

[anonymous-user]

Elysium said:

scenario8 said:

Aside from the generally being mean to each other for a moment…

Djokovic denied entry into the US once more due to his vaccination status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/64997434

Seems crazy to me. Again.

He just needs to move on. I can’t believe he is still going on about COVID. He should just cheer himself up by going out for a walk.

He isn’t “going on about COVID” though is he? Nor does he appear to need to “cheer himself up” or “move on”, unlike some on this thread.

Spectacular own goal there Elysium.

[RemarkLima]

Roman Rhodes said:

Elysium said:

scenario8 said:

Aside from the generally being mean to each other for a moment…

Djokovic denied entry into the US once more due to his vaccination status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/64997434

Seems crazy to me. Again.

He just needs to move on. I can’t believe he is still going on about COVID. He should just cheer himself up by going out for a walk.

He isn’t “going on about COVID” though is he? Nor does he appear to need to “cheer himself up” or “move on”, unlike some on this thread.

Spectacular own goal there Elysium.

Wooooosh parrot incoming in 3...2...1... Man, the sense of humour failure of the anti CT crowd is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Perhaps, re-read what Elysium wrote, and have a think about their position on the vaccine mandates, and then ask yourself, could there be a possibility that they were being sarcastic?

Edit, sense of failure = sense of humour failure

Edited by RemarkLima on Saturday 18th March 12:58

[KAgantua]

RemarkLima said:

Roman Rhodes said:

Elysium said:

scenario8 said:

Aside from the generally being mean to each other for a moment…

Djokovic denied entry into the US once more due to his vaccination status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/64997434

Seems crazy to me. Again.

He just needs to move on. I can’t believe he is still going on about COVID. He should just cheer himself up by going out for a walk.

He isn’t “going on about COVID” though is he? Nor does he appear to need to “cheer himself up” or “move on”, unlike some on this thread.

Spectacular own goal there Elysium.

Wooooosh parrot incoming in 3...2...1... Man, the sense of failure of the anti CT crowd is like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Perhaps, re-read what Elysium wrote, and have a think about their position on the vaccine mandates, and then ask yourself, could there be a possibility that they were being sarcastic?

Wow... just... wow.

Wow.