CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)
Discussion
Seventy said:
isaldiri said:
the wacky stuff has been disagreed with before and mostly I can't be bothered to continually insult people when it comes up again so I'm happy to scroll past.
But it’s the wacky stuff that’s the most dangerous.Surely you can see that?
It’s the wacky stuff that the vulnerable gravitate towards, as constantly evidenced here. It should be called out when seen.
By saying ‘mostly I can't be bothered to continually insult people when it comes up again’ you’re saying that you’ve insulted them before, would you not agree?
Is that an admission of apathy?
Do you think that’s helpful?
I don’t.
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Friday 17th March 17:13
A nice overview of the whole s
tshow. In summary - looking at overall death figures it was a worse than average flu year. We destroyed the economy for it though
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2023/01/31/returning...
Indeed as he said back in March 2020.
tshow. In summary - looking at overall death figures it was a worse than average flu year. We destroyed the economy for it though https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2023/01/31/returning...
Indeed as he said back in March 2020.
Edited by irc on Friday 17th March 15:05
Ari said:
Roman Rhodes said:
"Faux indignation"? The irony..
You and Elysium appear totally incapable of recognising that your obsession with being victims of some kind of conspiracy to remove everyone's democratic rights and bombastic claims about treason and bringing politicians to justice are simply a joke. You believe that you are both right and the vast majority of the population is wrong. Quite why you both feel qualified to appoint yourselves the 'special ones' is a mystery. Maybe contemplate why you are in the minority? Hint: it isn't because you are wiser or some kind of modern day sages. Facts and reality long since departed anything you post. Elysium seems to be on a deluded mission to save the population from itself.
But of course, we're all like battered wives. If only we had your intelligence to save us from ourselves...
Wow.You and Elysium appear totally incapable of recognising that your obsession with being victims of some kind of conspiracy to remove everyone's democratic rights and bombastic claims about treason and bringing politicians to justice are simply a joke. You believe that you are both right and the vast majority of the population is wrong. Quite why you both feel qualified to appoint yourselves the 'special ones' is a mystery. Maybe contemplate why you are in the minority? Hint: it isn't because you are wiser or some kind of modern day sages. Facts and reality long since departed anything you post. Elysium seems to be on a deluded mission to save the population from itself.
But of course, we're all like battered wives. If only we had your intelligence to save us from ourselves...
You really are quite angry about this aren't you?
I wonder why...
Since you’ve decided/made up that I’m angry I’d be interested in your wondering.
The fact is that the only exposure I really get to the kind of maladjusted musings and downright ‘alternative truths’ seen here is on this thread. Real life is nothing like it. If it was, I might well be angry. Fortunately, you’re in such a minority as to be inconsequential to the more balanced majority. As such, this thread provides amusement primarily but sometimes the stupidity does need a challenge.
Roman Rhodes said:
Yes, I’m so steaming angry that I just read this..
Since you’ve decided/made up that I’m angry I’d be interested in your wondering.
The fact is that the only exposure I really get to the kind of maladjusted musings and downright ‘alternative truths’ seen here is on this thread. Real life is nothing like it. If it was, I might well be angry. Fortunately, you’re in such a minority as to be inconsequential to the more balanced majority. As such, this thread provides amusement primarily but sometimes the stupidity does need a challenge.
What do you think would happen if you didn't challenge it?Since you’ve decided/made up that I’m angry I’d be interested in your wondering.
The fact is that the only exposure I really get to the kind of maladjusted musings and downright ‘alternative truths’ seen here is on this thread. Real life is nothing like it. If it was, I might well be angry. Fortunately, you’re in such a minority as to be inconsequential to the more balanced majority. As such, this thread provides amusement primarily but sometimes the stupidity does need a challenge.
chris watton said:
Challo said:
The media cover what is news of the day. At the moment its the Budget and large banks collapsing in the US. Would you prefer they just talked about Covid?
What happened when the Telegraph leaked all the whatsapp messages? Was that story not on loop 24 hours a day for a few weeks? Was that the media shifting the narrative onto Covid?
....So you support the current thing?What happened when the Telegraph leaked all the whatsapp messages? Was that story not on loop 24 hours a day for a few weeks? Was that the media shifting the narrative onto Covid?
JuanCarlosFandango said:
isaldiri said:
So what has been revealed that is explosive or incriminating according to you by the telegraph then?
Not so much a revelation to me but a bold underlining of the fact that this was never a case of "following the science" to fight a disease but a bunch of idiots chasing poll ratings and headlines without giving a toss about the long term consequences. Pretty much as I thought all along, but hopefully this has helped bring it to a wider audience who will be that much more alert to such twaddle in future.
Point Two: I admire your optimism.
Seventy said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Please may I ask for further clarification of the alleged dangers being ascribed?
Could you tell me what the original post said before the edit? Edited by RSTurboPaul on Friday 17th March 17:13
Cheers.
Happy to have provided that clarification, I look forward to your response in due course.
You know what, Paul, I was going to have a ball and look back through the early volumes of this thread but they don’t seem to be there anymore.
Maybe it’s my search capabilities!
They’d show you - usually in the early hours of the morning - posting ridiculous links, usually post scripted by ‘tin foil may be needed’ or similar.
Do you remember that!
Do you remember posters saying that the vaccine would turn you off and that it was all about population control amongst other such rubbish?
I do, and I’m sure you do too.
Where’s SteveT350 and his ilk nowadays?
Eta that there are and have been a lot of clearly vulnerable and gullible people on this thread since its inception.
People who asked where to buy crossbows.
People who wouldn’t be able to differentiate truth from fiction.
Posting the laughable rubbish that has been posted over the last 18 volumes has not helped them at all.
And that is abhorrent, and unforgivable.
They’ve failed to extricate themselves from threads such as this (and probably on other forums) BECAUSE of the rubbish that you and others like you have posted.
I hope you’re happy with yourself.
Maybe it’s my search capabilities!
They’d show you - usually in the early hours of the morning - posting ridiculous links, usually post scripted by ‘tin foil may be needed’ or similar.
Do you remember that!
Do you remember posters saying that the vaccine would turn you off and that it was all about population control amongst other such rubbish?
I do, and I’m sure you do too.
Where’s SteveT350 and his ilk nowadays?
Eta that there are and have been a lot of clearly vulnerable and gullible people on this thread since its inception.
People who asked where to buy crossbows.
People who wouldn’t be able to differentiate truth from fiction.
Posting the laughable rubbish that has been posted over the last 18 volumes has not helped them at all.
And that is abhorrent, and unforgivable.
They’ve failed to extricate themselves from threads such as this (and probably on other forums) BECAUSE of the rubbish that you and others like you have posted.
I hope you’re happy with yourself.
Edited by Seventy on Friday 17th March 19:52
jameswills said:
"safe and effective". That's one of the most abhorrent statements made over the last few years and it didn't come from this thread. So I think you're being a bit ridiculous
What on earth are you wittering on about?My post was in reply to Paul, not you.
And I’m not being ridiculous at all.
You’re another of the guilty ones, although fairly new - which doesn’t excuse you.
Challo said:
The claim was the 'media' has just moved on, when mentioned it hasnt. Covid will continue to be covered by journo's, but the mainstream media will move on to the next thing as it drives revenue and clicks.
This is true. As I see it the important thing is to remember that the next Current Thing is brought to you by the same lying, corrupt shower and covered by the same haphazard, click hungry media with every bit as complete disregard for truth, objectivity or the general weal of the people, country or world.So if there is a "positive" to come out of it then it's cynicism; or at least a much greater scepticism. My own journey over the last 3 years is from taking it with a pinch if salt through to discounting the possibility that the Current Thing is true.
Want me to care about climate change or Ukraine or monkeypox? Forget it. Bread and circuses for those who like to think they have a social conscience. I know where the front is now, and by definition it can't be the Current Thing.
I would rather take my chances with environmental, political and social disaster than have an over mighty government controlling food and energy for my own good. I would rather still have an evolved system of government with power distributed to the lowest practical level. Preferably the individual. So my objective is clearer, and it is not tackling the Current Thing.
I'm not expecting to change the world or lead the revolution but the truth does eventually out and ultimately people recognise it.
Seventy said:
Various stuff
And this has been my issue with some of the content posted in this thread by the like of Globs to name probably the worst offender.Edited by Seventy on Friday 17th March 19:52
Sagely posting utter cobblers that may well lead someone who is mentally vulnerable to a very dark place indeed. And it should be called out for the utter cobblers that it is.
I've no problem with questioning Covid as a whole and how the vast majority of the western world responded to it. I'm sure there was corruption and backhanders aplenty amongst many other shady practices. Lockdown caused a whole host of problems that we're still working our way through and, again, I have no issue with anyone questioning how it was handled or making suggestions for how we can learn from it if there is a next time.
But, I don't think it was a conspiracy, just (at best) incompetence and metaphorical stumbling in the dark from our leaders.
Seventy said:
May I ask how you’re challenging it apart from wittering on PH, which I’m pretty sure the government don’t read.
Sure. You can scoff at it too if you like. My grand plan is to nurture my resentment, keep discussing the fraud with anyone interested and never concede a single inch down the road that this was a legitimate public health crisis where mistakes were made out of a sincere desire to protect the public. JuanCarlosFandango said:
Sure. You can scoff at it too if you like. My grand plan is to nurture my resentment, keep discussing the fraud with anyone interested and never concede a single inch down the road that this was a legitimate public health crisis where mistakes were made out of a sincere desire to protect the public.
Then you’re going to have a pretty sad and lonely existence from now on. No scoffing.
Worry and pity in equal measure.
Seventy said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Sure. You can scoff at it too if you like. My grand plan is to nurture my resentment, keep discussing the fraud with anyone interested and never concede a single inch down the road that this was a legitimate public health crisis where mistakes were made out of a sincere desire to protect the public.
Then you’re going to have a pretty sad and lonely existence from now on. No scoffing.
Worry and pity in equal measure.
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