CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)
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Jacinda Ardern has tested positive for CV19. Moderate symptoms, apparently. She's been in isolation since May 8th after her partner also tested positive.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zea...
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zea...
johnboy1975 said:
Stats say she'd have been good either way (41, F, average / below average weight).
Yes, she did reduce her hospitalisation odds from very low to very very low. Which Is something worth celebrating I suppose
The vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms for the vast majority that have received it. I didn't think that was in doubt.Yes, she did reduce her hospitalisation odds from very low to very very low. Which Is something worth celebrating I suppose
Dear addicts addicted to this thread,
North Korea is having some problems. Problems of the March 2020 vintage. You guys have your alternate reality fully constructed and must be itching to try it out.
How about you all jump on a plane to NK and present your ideas to the Great Tubby Leader. You could take this thread as “evidence” that they will work.
Yes, that’s right, you’re just a plane flight away from total and utter vindication!
Oh, wait. A plane flight? Oh, that’s going to me a bit of an issue…
North Korea is having some problems. Problems of the March 2020 vintage. You guys have your alternate reality fully constructed and must be itching to try it out.
How about you all jump on a plane to NK and present your ideas to the Great Tubby Leader. You could take this thread as “evidence” that they will work.
Yes, that’s right, you’re just a plane flight away from total and utter vindication!
Oh, wait. A plane flight? Oh, that’s going to me a bit of an issue…
BlackWidow13 said:
Oh, wait. A plane flight? Oh, that’s going to me a bit of an issue…
Ignoring the rest of the presuppositions and fallacy, why is a plane flight an issue? Having flown out of Gatwick and Heathrow this year, plenty of people are flying regardless of vaccination status, booster status etc... I assume that's what you were getting at?
Rufus Stone said:
johnboy1975 said:
Stats say she'd have been good either way (41, F, average / below average weight).
Yes, she did reduce her hospitalisation odds from very low to very very low. Which Is something worth celebrating I suppose
The vaccination reduces the severity of symptoms for the vast majority that have received it. I didn't think that was in doubt.Yes, she did reduce her hospitalisation odds from very low to very very low. Which Is something worth celebrating I suppose
vixen1700 said:
Gotta laugh at that Simpsons meme, just for the fact that so many people are saying it.
People getting really sick and knocked out by something the unvaccinated are shrugging off as nothing more than a hangover.
Hearing this online and anecdotally from people.
Come on now, that can’t be right can it? I mean you have got to have evidence! People getting really sick and knocked out by something the unvaccinated are shrugging off as nothing more than a hangover.
Hearing this online and anecdotally from people.
My evidence is that me and Mrs BVD unvaccinated and had covid twice (checked with a test which could have been false positives) and both were vaguely unwell for a day. Daughter and son in law both boosted up to the max caught it (not from us) and were both ill for 4/5 days.
Boringvolvodriver said:
vixen1700 said:
Gotta laugh at that Simpsons meme, just for the fact that so many people are saying it.
People getting really sick and knocked out by something the unvaccinated are shrugging off as nothing more than a hangover.
Hearing this online and anecdotally from people.
Come on now, that can’t be right can it? I mean you have got to have evidence! People getting really sick and knocked out by something the unvaccinated are shrugging off as nothing more than a hangover.
Hearing this online and anecdotally from people.
My evidence is that me and Mrs BVD unvaccinated and had covid twice (checked with a test which could have been false positives) and both were vaguely unwell for a day. Daughter and son in law both boosted up to the max caught it (not from us) and were both ill for 4/5 days.
23 out of 24 cases of the dreaded Omicron were in the double / triple jabbed, and several of these were absolutely wiped out for a week or more. This was between Christmas 2021 and sometime in March, after which it appears the bosses got bored and stopped giving a f
k Boringvolvodriver said:
Come on now, that can’t be right can it? I mean you have got to have evidence!
My evidence is that me and Mrs BVD unvaccinated and had covid twice (checked with a test which could have been false positives) and both were vaguely unwell for a day. Daughter and son in law both boosted up to the max caught it (not from us) and were both ill for 4/5 days.
I have to agree with that. Our company has about 20 full time people & there are a further 20-odd regular subbies who we deal with. All the nasty cases I know of, certainly since Christmas, have been people jabbed to the max. I guess time will tell & most of this will be brushed under the carpet in the public enquiry. Be interested to see the terms of reference for that one.My evidence is that me and Mrs BVD unvaccinated and had covid twice (checked with a test which could have been false positives) and both were vaguely unwell for a day. Daughter and son in law both boosted up to the max caught it (not from us) and were both ill for 4/5 days.
Trouble is that so few needed hospitalisation anyway that it’s hard to say. Two years into this circus and the majority who would have needed hospital treatment have either had it or died, and most of the population will have had it in some form thus achieving herd immunity.
Before Mrs BSDD finished working on the respiratory ward, the majority of patients were jabbed but in the same demographic as before (elderly/fat/both). They rarely saw the filthy unjabbed, and if they did it was usually mild symptoms and there as a precaution due to age.
Before Mrs BSDD finished working on the respiratory ward, the majority of patients were jabbed but in the same demographic as before (elderly/fat/both). They rarely saw the filthy unjabbed, and if they did it was usually mild symptoms and there as a precaution due to age.
V88Dicky said:
Also aligns to what we’ve seen at my place of work.
23 out of 24 cases of the dreaded Omicron were in the double / triple jabbed, and several of these were absolutely wiped out for a week or more. This was between Christmas 2021 and sometime in March, after which it appears the bosses got bored and stopped giving a fk
Out of interest, were those suffering the most pretty fat? 23 out of 24 cases of the dreaded Omicron were in the double / triple jabbed, and several of these were absolutely wiped out for a week or more. This was between Christmas 2021 and sometime in March, after which it appears the bosses got bored and stopped giving a f
k Well, I'm 57, unvaccinated, and fairly fit. 5' 10" and 11 stone.
Having avoided Covid for over 2 years (despite having not particularly gone out of my way to try and avoid it that whole time) I finally got it over the recent Bank Holiday weekend.
Headache, cough, sore throat. The usual suspects. LFT test gave immediate double line positive. Had a few days off work (so as not to spread it to colleagues) and was fine by the following weekend.
I've had worse colds. I doubt the jab would have made a jot of positive difference.
Am more certain now than at any point that avoiding the jab was the right thing to do. It should NEVER have been offered, let alone forced upon, anyone under 65 who wasn't very obviously vulnerable.
15 million jabs to freedom. That was the last thing the government said in which I had confidence. Everything they have said since is lies, coercion and control.
Having avoided Covid for over 2 years (despite having not particularly gone out of my way to try and avoid it that whole time) I finally got it over the recent Bank Holiday weekend.
Headache, cough, sore throat. The usual suspects. LFT test gave immediate double line positive. Had a few days off work (so as not to spread it to colleagues) and was fine by the following weekend.
I've had worse colds. I doubt the jab would have made a jot of positive difference.
Am more certain now than at any point that avoiding the jab was the right thing to do. It should NEVER have been offered, let alone forced upon, anyone under 65 who wasn't very obviously vulnerable.
15 million jabs to freedom. That was the last thing the government said in which I had confidence. Everything they have said since is lies, coercion and control.
OddCat said:
Well, I'm 57, unvaccinated, and fairly fit. 5' 10" and 11 stone.
Having avoided Covid for over 2 years (despite having not particularly gone out of my way to try and avoid it that whole time) I finally got it over the recent Bank Holiday weekend.
Headache, cough, sore throat. The usual suspects. LFT test gave immediate double line positive. Had a few days off work (so as not to spread it to colleagues) and was fine by the following weekend.
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55, Unjabbed and tested positive start of April.Having avoided Covid for over 2 years (despite having not particularly gone out of my way to try and avoid it that whole time) I finally got it over the recent Bank Holiday weekend.
Headache, cough, sore throat. The usual suspects. LFT test gave immediate double line positive. Had a few days off work (so as not to spread it to colleagues) and was fine by the following weekend.
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Felt tired on Tuesday afternoon, so had a doze.
Fine but a bit groggy on Wednesday and a slight sore throat which was cured with a Strepsil.
Care home visit in Thursday morning, temperature taken and tested. Got a call Thursday afternoon saying I was positive.
So the test was well checked then?Took LemSip Night and Day capsules and felt normal by Saturday, but still tested positive until Thursday.
Was good though and stayed at home for the week missing out on a fun sounding day job at the London Stadium.
Unjabbed Mrs didn't get a thing.
/my covid tale.
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