CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)

[isaldiri]

Randy Winkman said:

I would never have agreed with childrens' playgrounds being closed or lots of other things for that matter. But I don't think that the future of kids is f****d because of that. I'm afraid I think it will have added to existing differences in wellbeing and opportunity but in more general terms I think you are exaggerating. Especially when you bring "and their kids" into it as well.

I think you're also rather missing his main point that most of the western world (and to be fair a lot of the developing world as well) went mad over the covid measures which ended up severely impacting kids to a disproportionate degree especially relative to the risks for them......

[EddieSteadyGo]

isaldiri said:

Randy Winkman said:

I would never have agreed with childrens' playgrounds being closed or lots of other things for that matter. But I don't think that the future of kids is f****d because of that. I'm afraid I think it will have added to existing differences in wellbeing and opportunity but in more general terms I think you are exaggerating. Especially when you bring "and their kids" into it as well.

I think you're also rather missing his main point that most of the western world (and to be fair a lot of the developing world as well) went mad over the covid measures which ended up severely impacting kids to a disproportionate degree especially relative to the risks for them......

And particularly children from poorer families, where the parents weren't able to focus as much supporting their children's learning; ensuring fast internet, good/clear desk space, adult supervision, good laptop etc. That will no doubt impact the attainment status of many children through no fault of their own.

[Roderick Spode]

EddieSteadyGo said:

isaldiri said:

Randy Winkman said:

I would never have agreed with childrens' playgrounds being closed or lots of other things for that matter. But I don't think that the future of kids is f****d because of that. I'm afraid I think it will have added to existing differences in wellbeing and opportunity but in more general terms I think you are exaggerating. Especially when you bring "and their kids" into it as well.

I think you're also rather missing his main point that most of the western world (and to be fair a lot of the developing world as well) went mad over the covid measures which ended up severely impacting kids to a disproportionate degree especially relative to the risks for them......

And particularly children from poorer families, where the parents weren't able to focus as much supporting their children's learning; ensuring fast internet, good/clear desk space, adult supervision, good laptop etc. That will no doubt impact the attainment status of many children through no fault of their own.

There have also been studies undertaken that show the learning progress of young children has been delayed, so a child now at 30 months has a similar level of cognitive development to a child previously at 24 months. No biggie.

[Rufus Stone]

Roderick Spode said:

There have also been studies undertaken that show the learning progress of young children has been delayed, so a child now at 30 months has a similar level of cognitive development to a child previously at 24 months. No biggie.

Clearly already consigned to the scrap heap and a life on benefits already.

Blame the pandemic be becoming the new blame the EU.

[Roderick Spode]

Rufus Stone said:

Roderick Spode said:

There have also been studies undertaken that show the learning progress of young children has been delayed, so a child now at 30 months has a similar level of cognitive development to a child previously at 24 months. No biggie.

Clearly already consigned to the scrap heap and a life on benefits already.

Blame the pandemic be becoming the new blame the EU.

Interesting take. Is cognitive impairment of thousands of young children a price worth paying to extend the life of Muriel (87)?

I know you're a bit of a contrarian on these threads, but even you cannot accept this as fair exchange. I'm sure you will find a reason though.

[Rufus Stone]

Roderick Spode said:

Interesting take. Is cognitive impairment of thousands of young children a price worth paying to extend the life of Muriel (87)?

I know you're a bit of a contrarian on these threads, but even you cannot accept this as fair exchange. I'm sure you will find a reason though.

I'm sure the children will recover quickly and not be a future burden to society.

[Roderick Spode]

Rufus Stone said:

Roderick Spode said:

Interesting take. Is cognitive impairment of thousands of young children a price worth paying to extend the life of Muriel (87)?

I know you're a bit of a contrarian on these threads, but even you cannot accept this as fair exchange. I'm sure you will find a reason though.

I'm sure the children will recover quickly and not be a future burden to society.

Your basis for this is...?

[Rufus Stone]

Roderick Spode said:

Your basis for this is...?

Common sense.

[bodhi]

Rufus Stone said:

Common sense.

A.k.a the "It'll be reet" defence.

[Roderick Spode]

bodhi said:

Rufus Stone said:

Common sense.

A.k.a the "It'll be reet" defence.

The "no biggie" defence.

[21st Century Man]

I caught a few minutes of one of those breakfast programmes mid morning on TV, there was some expert talking about covid and the tone/narrative was just like a year or two ago. At one point she was warning that it was highly transmissible and everyone should be extra vigilant as there are lots of asymptomatic cases around who are also not vaccinated and so they will be spreading it about.

The "journalists" of course left this unchallenged or put into any perspective of where we are now with covid being both endemic and extremely mild.

[anonymous-user]

Roderick Spode said:

Your basis for this is...?

He’s not worth the effort, Roderick. Best ignored.

[Rufus Stone]

Roderick Spode said:

The "no biggie" defence.

I've recently had my moral outrage booster vaccination.

[Roderick Spode]

garyhun said:

Roderick Spode said:

Your basis for this is...?

He’s not worth the effort, Roderick. Best ignored.

I know I know, but I can't help myself sometimes. He's part of the snarky one-liner crew, the type for whom The Script was invented. I'll put him back on my scroll-past ignore list.

[Brave Fart]

21st Century Man said:

I caught a few minutes of one of those breakfast programmes mid morning on TV, there was some expert talking about covid and the tone/narrative was just like a year or two ago. At one point she was warning that it was highly transmissible and everyone should be extra vigilant as there are lots of asymptomatic cases around who are also not vaccinated and so they will be spreading it about.

The "journalists" of course left this unchallenged or put into any perspective of where we are now with covid being both endemic and extremely mild.

As I said the other day on here, these covid obsessives haven't gone away. The likes of Michie, Pagel, Greenhalgh and Independent (ha!) Sage will be on our TV screens and radio 'phone ins to remind us about a resurgence of the Killer Virus. No doubt they will demand the return of mask mandates and perhaps all the other nonsense. Marvellous.

[Boringvolvodriver]

Rufus Stone said:

I'm sure the children will recover quickly and not be a future burden to society.

Really? Depends on the children’s circumstances and family background I suppose.

Take Children from deprived areas where the schools have enough trouble normally getting them to attend school at the best of times. Do you think they will have bothered with going back to school after all the shut downs?

So whilst pre restrictions they might have stood a chance of getting an education and bettering themselves, I would suggest that there will a fair few of this years cohort of year 11s (who have been the worst affected ) won’t stand a chance.

[Boringvolvodriver]

Donbot said:

Also, society doesn't appear to accept that the response to Covid was a huge mistake, thus we are doomed to repeat it. The government still haven't got rid of the emergency legislation ffs.

It is easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled - aided and abetted by the MSM who, in my opinion have not done their jobs that well.

[21st Century Man]

Brave Fart said:

21st Century Man said:

I caught a few minutes of one of those breakfast programmes mid morning on TV, there was some expert talking about covid and the tone/narrative was just like a year or two ago. At one point she was warning that it was highly transmissible and everyone should be extra vigilant as there are lots of asymptomatic cases around who are also not vaccinated and so they will be spreading it about.

The "journalists" of course left this unchallenged or put into any perspective of where we are now with covid being both endemic and extremely mild.

As I said the other day on here, these covid obsessives haven't gone away. The likes of Michie, Pagel, Greenhalgh and Independent (ha!) Sage will be on our TV screens and radio 'phone ins to remind us about a resurgence of the Killer Virus. No doubt they will demand the return of mask mandates and perhaps all the other nonsense. Marvellous.

They're like those Japanese soldiers coming out of the jungle unaware that the war is over and reluctant to even take their commanding officers word for it. Much like the two mask wearers we still have at work, outside, amongst 50 odd staff and thousands of visitors who are all unmasked.

[RemarkLima]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Rufus Stone said:

I'm sure the children will recover quickly and not be a future burden to society.

Really? Depends on the children’s circumstances and family background I suppose.

Take Children from deprived areas where the schools have enough trouble normally getting them to attend school at the best of times. Do you think they will have bothered with going back to school after all the shut downs?

So whilst pre restrictions they might have stood a chance of getting an education and bettering themselves, I would suggest that there will a fair few of this years cohort of year 11s (who have been the worst affected ) won’t stand a chance.

Don't forget, this cohort will also be paying off the (AIUI) inflation linked debt, so that £400b, now has another 10% added so no chance of inflating it all away. I'd be happy to be corrected on this...

[Rufus Stone]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Really? Depends on the children’s circumstances and family background I suppose.

Take Children from deprived areas where the schools have enough trouble normally getting them to attend school at the best of times. Do you think they will have bothered with going back to school after all the shut downs?

So whilst pre restrictions they might have stood a chance of getting an education and bettering themselves, I would suggest that there will a fair few of this years cohort of year 11s (who have been the worst affected ) won’t stand a chance.

Of course some children will suffer long term adverse consequences of the pandemic. They aren't immune by age. The vast majority wont though. Those claiming they will are spouting rubbish in my opinion.