Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2
Discussion
Olivera said:
https://energybulletin.org/peak-oil-reference/peak...
2003 oil production, in million barrels per day:
United States 5.68
Iraq 1.31
Total, OPEC plus top 30 non-OPEC 72.66
Anyone who thinks Iraq was primarily about oil needs to lay down the crack pipe. The primary motivation was always neoconservative 'regime change' ideology.
No. It was about keeping the private defence industry in constant bumper paydays.2003 oil production, in million barrels per day:
United States 5.68
Iraq 1.31
Total, OPEC plus top 30 non-OPEC 72.66
Anyone who thinks Iraq was primarily about oil needs to lay down the crack pipe. The primary motivation was always neoconservative 'regime change' ideology.
Defence companies love war.
vonuber said:
For some reason it seems like the anti-German sentiment is higher than anti-Russian on here.
Especially considering Germany is doing no different to a lot of other countries, and a lot more than say France is, especially given Macron's attempts to sell Ukraine down the river.
Look Germany has alot of baggage, I am not defending their poor effort but I can understand why its not simply a gut move on their part. Its like a Royal visit to the Caribbean Especially considering Germany is doing no different to a lot of other countries, and a lot more than say France is, especially given Macron's attempts to sell Ukraine down the river.
On a brighter note Lithuanian Andrius Tapinas is crowd funding to buy Ukraine a €5 mil Bayraktar drone. If you would like to help just search #bayraktarasUkrainai
Interesting thread here:
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1505563...
The TL:DR version is that logistics wins wars, and the ability to degrade the opponents ability to produce weapons is probably the most important factor - destroying irreplaceable kit is more important than winning battles.
If you follow this line of thinking, then the sanctions that are crippling Russia's production capability are probably the most important aspect. Closely followed by the airbridge that seems to be linking the US and Poland at the moment.
I've ordered his book for holiday reading.
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1505563...
The TL:DR version is that logistics wins wars, and the ability to degrade the opponents ability to produce weapons is probably the most important factor - destroying irreplaceable kit is more important than winning battles.
If you follow this line of thinking, then the sanctions that are crippling Russia's production capability are probably the most important aspect. Closely followed by the airbridge that seems to be linking the US and Poland at the moment.
I've ordered his book for holiday reading.
8bit said:
fblm said:
8bit said:
You're not wrong on the "wrong score" but the intention was purely about getting control of Iraq's oil, wasn't it?
Spend $1100bn to secure the supply of $40bn/year in oil that the US doesn't even need? CNN Article said:
"Of course it's about oil; we can't really deny that," said Gen. John Abizaid, former head of U.S. Central Command and Military Operations in Iraq, in 2007. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed, writing in his memoir, "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." Then-Sen. and now Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the same in 2007: "People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are."
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Olivera said:
https://energybulletin.org/peak-oil-reference/peak...
2003 oil production, in million barrels per day:
United States 5.68
Iraq 1.31
Total, OPEC plus top 30 non-OPEC 72.66
Anyone who thinks Iraq was primarily about oil needs to lay down the crack pipe. The primary motivation was always neoconservative 'regime change' ideology.
No. It was about keeping the private defence industry in constant bumper paydays.2003 oil production, in million barrels per day:
United States 5.68
Iraq 1.31
Total, OPEC plus top 30 non-OPEC 72.66
Anyone who thinks Iraq was primarily about oil needs to lay down the crack pipe. The primary motivation was always neoconservative 'regime change' ideology.
Defence companies love war.
One word...
Halliburton
rovermorris999 said:
There's been a lot of discussion about how the state of the Russian nuclear forces. Not too bad perhaps. According to this article, they've been upgrading heavily for the last few years (assuming the money has been spend as intended)...
The number of them that work is a rather moot point but personally I'd expect even more of the money to have been stolen from a program that is shrouded in secrecy and which, should it ever be used in anger and most of it not work, it won't matter!PRTVR said:
The Russians are moving old T62 tanks up to the battle.
The comments are interesting, it requires a 4 man crew, the crew conditions are terrible and in previous battles it was a death trap.
Lots of comment on twitter, for those who aren't on twitter:The comments are interesting, it requires a 4 man crew, the crew conditions are terrible and in previous battles it was a death trap.
- Might indicate lack of electronics for the targeting optics (FWOABW) on the newer tanks dues to sanctions.
- Might indicate lack or tooling capability for the newer tanks. (Import banned under 2014 sanctions.)
- Parts and ammo are totally different to all the other tanks which gives them a logistics nightmare.
MOTORVATOR said:
Bearing in mind Germany's reunification happened at the same time as Ukraine was afforded their freedom from Soviet rule they have managed yet again to display a total lack of sentience. Germany 'should' have been one of the most vocal and vociferous in defending Ukraines sovereignty.
That's an excellent point. Thank you for making it. rxe said:
Interesting thread here:
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1505563...
The TL:DR version is that logistics wins wars, and the ability to degrade the opponents ability to produce weapons is probably the most important factor - destroying irreplaceable kit is more important than winning battles.
If you follow this line of thinking, then the sanctions that are crippling Russia's production capability are probably the most important aspect. Closely followed by the airbridge that seems to be linking the US and Poland at the moment.
I've ordered his book for holiday reading.
Listen to We Have Ways of Making You Talk Podcast, episodes 162 and 163, Where the War was Won, Parts 1 and 2.https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1505563...
The TL:DR version is that logistics wins wars, and the ability to degrade the opponents ability to produce weapons is probably the most important factor - destroying irreplaceable kit is more important than winning battles.
If you follow this line of thinking, then the sanctions that are crippling Russia's production capability are probably the most important aspect. Closely followed by the airbridge that seems to be linking the US and Poland at the moment.
I've ordered his book for holiday reading.
Edited to add some interesting links to other works including publicly available essays in that Twitter thread.
Edited by FiF on Thursday 26th May 08:23
Oilchange said:
Putin doesn't care if it's a Pyrrhic victory, as long as it's a victory...
Well, yeah, most likely Putin is scrabbling around for *something* he can claim as a victory.- But* we don't actually know what Putin thinks. For all the comment and analysis *nobody* knows what Putin is thinking. Most likely even the people around him don't.
Yes, I know the USA making the decision with experts involved didn't work, either.
Sanctions are hitting home though
Western sanctions imposed after the Ukraine invasion are leading Russia to devolve into a secondhand economy dependent on poor substitutes, where shortages are stirring memories of the consumer wasteland that was the Soviet Union.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/26/ru...
Western sanctions imposed after the Ukraine invasion are leading Russia to devolve into a secondhand economy dependent on poor substitutes, where shortages are stirring memories of the consumer wasteland that was the Soviet Union.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/26/ru...
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