Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2
Discussion
Wozy68 said:
TTmonkey said:
PRTVR said:
A game of hide and seek, is a lot more difficult when the opposition has a drone.
It’s a funny old thing to witness. A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
The way they ran around in this video shouts more they are just young lads with no idea what they are doing rather than professional soldiers who would have more savvy and know better and get the hell out of dodge asap.
It’s bizarre how I just watched men (most probs) just get killed.
They may have been mass murderers and/or rapists or maybe they were just a bunch of lads that were dragged into a war of not their making.
Whichever it is I’m not sure quite how I feel after watching it; happy that a few more Russians have died on the battlefield or the sad realisation that they will all have family at home who now have lost their love ones.
War….. What is it good for ….. absolutely nothing.
Edwin summed it up well.
dudleybloke said:
Literally, caught with his pants down 
TTmonkey said:
It’s a funny old thing to witness.
A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
My personal opinion is that we have become used to the fact that there is this massive war going on in Europe right now, that since the 24th February has killed somewhere in the region of 100,000 people. This would have been unthinkable 12 months ago yet here we are in Europe it's 2022 and this is happening. With it being 2022 we can witness it in 4k from a drone if we wish...A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
The other side to this is that since Mariupol, Bucha and Urpin I no longer care about Russia or its population. I don't enjoy seeing Russian soldiers being killed in this video I just feel nothing, it's as if they are a statistic or number that must be reduced for the good side to win.
dudleybloke said:
"Fool! I said bomb the *ammunition* dump!" RichFN2 said:
My personal opinion is that we have become used to the fact that there is this massive war going on in Europe right now, that since the 24th February has killed somewhere in the region of 100,000 people. This would have been unthinkable 12 months ago yet here we are in Europe it's 2022 and this is happening. With it being 2022 we can witness it in 4k from a drone if we wish...
The other side to this is that since Mariupol, Bucha and Urpin I no longer care about Russia or its population. I don't enjoy seeing Russian soldiers being killed in this video I just feel nothing, it's as if they are a statistic or number that must be reduced for the good side to win.
Good post ! The other side to this is that since Mariupol, Bucha and Urpin I no longer care about Russia or its population. I don't enjoy seeing Russian soldiers being killed in this video I just feel nothing, it's as if they are a statistic or number that must be reduced for the good side to win.
I feel very much the same.
TTmonkey said:
It’s a funny old thing to witness.
A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
I was banned for 30 days because I shared a video of Russians being captured and loaded in to a van, no visible injuries, no mistreatment but a 30 day ban with a warning it would be permanent next time.A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
Kyiv was struck by around 14 missiles this morning. At least one cruise missile appears to have struck a high rise building inadvertently, whilst on its way to a target. This is definitely nit the first time either.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
pquinn said:
I've just got bored of the same old videos showing some use of a drone or a bit of artillery or an antitank weapon or whatever - great as a bit of distraction but most of what's going on on the ground now doesn't seem to be quite as tidy or as effective.
People can w
k themselves silly over hardware specs but while the Russians have had a stty war they've still grabbed a load of territory and they're slowly gaining more.
I think everyone's so distracted by the toys they just aren't interested in the actual progress of the war.
The Russians have the advantage of them having large numbers of ordinance and material that they already built. Yes they are slowly gaining territory 25 km from their own border. But this is not something they can maintain because even Russia does not have endless tanks and they don't have the ability to tell Ukraine "Hey you can stop now" People can w
k themselves silly over hardware specs but while the Russians have had a stty war they've still grabbed a load of territory and they're slowly gaining more. I think everyone's so distracted by the toys they just aren't interested in the actual progress of the war.
In fact the next step should be a regroup, and recovery. Use the 18 patrol boats from the US to take out Kersh Bridge and cut off the Crimea troops from retreating as they attack Kerson.
If the Ukrainians keep hitting fuel, ammo and food supply lines this is only getting worse for the Russians.
TTmonkey said:
Kyiv was struck by around 14 missiles this morning. At least one cruise missile appears to have struck a high rise building inadvertently, whilst on its way to a target. This is definitely nit the first time either.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
Their tech isn't that bad when it needs to be - at least when they had stocks of the good stuff - it's more they just don't care and whatever they hit got the point across. If you're trying to kill a specific target hitting the wrong thing is a problem but if your strategy is disruption and terror then hitting a high rise is still a 'success'.Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
TTmonkey said:
Kyiv was struck by around 14 missiles this morning. At least one cruise missile appears to have struck a high rise building inadvertently, whilst on its way to a target. This is definitely nit the first time either.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
Seems feasible this was in response to Ukraine's first use of the HIMARS yesterday. Russian twitter is saying Putin called a late night meeting in the Kremlin after the Ukraine strike was confirmed, and the Kyiv strikes were decided at that meeting.Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
Problem with that type of escalation by Russia, attacking "decision making" sites rather than military targets, is that it just encourages Ukraine to adopt a similar tactic. And Russia now can't complain when they get the same thing back...
pquinn said:
TTmonkey said:
Kyiv was struck by around 14 missiles this morning. At least one cruise missile appears to have struck a high rise building inadvertently, whilst on its way to a target. This is definitely nit the first time either.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
Their tech isn't that bad when it needs to be - at least when they had stocks of the good stuff - it's more they just don't care and whatever they hit got the point across. If you're trying to kill a specific target hitting the wrong thing is a problem but if your strategy is disruption and terror then hitting a high rise is still a 'success'.Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
TTmonkey said:
Kyiv was struck by around 14 missiles this morning. At least one cruise missile appears to have struck a high rise building inadvertently, whilst on its way to a target. This is definitely nit the first time either.
Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
I remember the CNN guy commenting that the missile wasn't that clever, as it went through a red light Seems to me their technology is appealing. In the gulf war US cruise missiles were following roadways to targets to avoid buildings that weren’t targets.
And this is a good thread using the reported equipment destroyed by Ukraine as a proxy for the intensity of the fighting.
Despite what we are reading, which would imply lots of activity, the rate of reported losses is around a third what it was during the peak. And the reason for that is the Russians are only making an effort in a very small area of the front line around Severodonetsk - everywhere else is pretty much static.
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1540961...
Despite what we are reading, which would imply lots of activity, the rate of reported losses is around a third what it was during the peak. And the reason for that is the Russians are only making an effort in a very small area of the front line around Severodonetsk - everywhere else is pretty much static.
https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1540961...
Yesterday Russia suffered a very high loss of tanks & armoured carriers, 1st video is actually a Russian command base and the 2nd is a Russian convoy.
I would guess this is the work of some advanced NATO long range artillery, rather than HIMARS
https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/15407960596...
https://twitter.com/walter_report/status/154074911...
I would guess this is the work of some advanced NATO long range artillery, rather than HIMARS
https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/15407960596...
https://twitter.com/walter_report/status/154074911...
TTmonkey said:
It’s a funny old thing to witness.
A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
I changed my view a long time ago - about when the explanation shifted from “I had no idea where I was” to “ yeah there was this baby just sitting there and I was horny”. They just need to be exterminated now, like bugs. A few months ago at the start of this, I posted a link to a video that dared to show, in passing and not in close up, images of a dead Russian soldier near a tank. You couldn’t see much, other than the fact that it was a body lying in the street,
I was heavily criticised with cry’s of ‘NSFW’, and demands of details and warnings of the link content . Like war shouldn’t show death. My post was removed by mods and I was sent an email saying I had broken site rules.
Now we watch a video of four men carrying an injured colleague, trying their best to evacuate this person, using a blanket as a stretcher, and they get hunted down in ‘real time’ by artillery, they refuse to leave him, to run and scatter, Without doubt, it ends with them being hit and probably shredded by shrapnel. They may be the enemy, but they are probably scared and unsure why they are there. Under paid, abused, and little more than human waste. They may be murderers, rapists, looters, or just scared mummies boys.
And no one gives a fek.
Not saying I do much either. But it shows how we change.
EddieSteadyGo said:
Seems feasible this was in response to Ukraine's first use of the HIMARS yesterday. Russian twitter is saying Putin called a late night meeting in the Kremlin after the Ukraine strike was confirmed, and the Kyiv strikes were decided at that meeting.
Problem with that type of escalation by Russia, attacking "decision making" sites rather than military targets, is that it just encourages Ukraine to adopt a similar tactic. And Russia now can't complain when they get the same thing back...
...and it's militarily useless. Just a total waste of ammo. Nobody has ever given up because their capital was bombed.Problem with that type of escalation by Russia, attacking "decision making" sites rather than military targets, is that it just encourages Ukraine to adopt a similar tactic. And Russia now can't complain when they get the same thing back...
Looks really desperate.
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