Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2
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vonuber said:
Literally holding the world hostage. A terrorist country.
Nope. All America's fault.UNITED NATIONS, May 26. /TASS/. The United States should stop misleading the world public regarding the causes of the world food crisis and cancel the unilateral sanctions that impede the delivery of food, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, Vasily Nebenzya, said at a meeting of the UN Security Council, devoted to the situation in the Middle East, including Palestine.
"It is regrettable that a number of our Western colleagues do not shy away from other far-fetched tales in their efforts to divert the attention of the world community from those who sabotage the Palestinian-Israeli settlement," he said.
"Once again we have heard the US representative tell an utterly out-of-place and rather hackneyed tale that Russia is to blame for the food crisis. We are asking you to stop misleading everyone and to lift the imposed sanctions that hinder the delivery of food, and the world will heave a sigh of relief," Nebenzya said.
MOTORVATOR said:
vonuber said:
Literally holding the world hostage. A terrorist country.
Nope. All America's fault.UNITED NATIONS, May 26. /TASS/. The United States should stop misleading the world public regarding the causes of the world food crisis and cancel the unilateral sanctions that impede the delivery of food, Russia’s ambassador to the United Nations, Vasily Nebenzya, said at a meeting of the UN Security Council, devoted to the situation in the Middle East, including Palestine.
"It is regrettable that a number of our Western colleagues do not shy away from other far-fetched tales in their efforts to divert the attention of the world community from those who sabotage the Palestinian-Israeli settlement," he said.
"Once again we have heard the US representative tell an utterly out-of-place and rather hackneyed tale that Russia is to blame for the food crisis. We are asking you to stop misleading everyone and to lift the imposed sanctions that hinder the delivery of food, and the world will heave a sigh of relief," Nebenzya said.
The Russians it seems are absolutely no different.
To think they are a country is just unbelievable that they’d think the rest of the world still would listen and believe their utter crap ….
MOTORVATOR said:
Lawmakers introduce bill to State Duma tightening penalty for mercenarism...
Is anyone actually using any mercenaries? Many of the foreigners fighting for Ukraine would miss the definition because they are party to the conflict in one way or another (e.g. Belarusians, Moldovans) and they are also unpaid. Even Russia's favourite PMC, Wagner Group, are typically supplying Russians who are not classed as mercenaries because Russia is party to the conflict.To be classed as a mercenary a person has to fit a very strict set of criteria outlined by the UN. The Russians like to talk about mercenaries a lot but I see scant evidence there are actually many being employed.
speedy_thrills said:
Is anyone actually using any mercenaries? Many of the foreigners fighting for Ukraine would miss the definition because they are party to the conflict in one way or another (e.g. Belarusians, Moldovans) and they are also unpaid. Even Russia's favourite PMC, Wagner Group, are typically supplying Russians who are not classed as mercenaries because Russia is party to the conflict.
To be classed as a mercenary a person has to fit a very strict set of criteria outlined by the UN. The Russians like to talk about mercenaries a lot but I see scant evidence there are actually many being employed.
Yep, and since manpower is the one thing Ukraine isn't lacking they are unlikely to have hired many mercenaries.To be classed as a mercenary a person has to fit a very strict set of criteria outlined by the UN. The Russians like to talk about mercenaries a lot but I see scant evidence there are actually many being employed.
I think it's just Russia doing the Nazi thing and accusing the other side of the things they're doing.
speedy_thrills said:
MOTORVATOR said:
Lawmakers introduce bill to State Duma tightening penalty for mercenarism...
Is anyone actually using any mercenaries? Many of the foreigners fighting for Ukraine would miss the definition because they are party to the conflict in one way or another (e.g. Belarusians, Moldovans) and they are also unpaid. Even Russia's favourite PMC, Wagner Group, are typically supplying Russians who are not classed as mercenaries because Russia is party to the conflict.To be classed as a mercenary a person has to fit a very strict set of criteria outlined by the UN. The Russians like to talk about mercenaries a lot but I see scant evidence there are actually many being employed.
Besides I don't think Russia uses the UN definition any more than we do?
MOTORVATOR said:
Here you go BBB. 100% conditional offer which is no offer at all.
Moscow is ready to make a "significant contribution" to averting a looming food crisis if the West lifts sanctions imposed on Russia over Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin said in a telephone call with Italy's Prime Minister Mario Draghi.
"Vladimir Putin emphasizes that the Russian Federation is ready to make a significant contribution to overcoming the food crisis through the export of grain and fertilizer, subject to the lifting of politically motivated restrictions by the West," the Kremlin said in a statement following the call.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-...
He could make a significant contribution by simply leaving the illegally invaded country! Moscow is ready to make a "significant contribution" to averting a looming food crisis if the West lifts sanctions imposed on Russia over Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin said in a telephone call with Italy's Prime Minister Mario Draghi.
"Vladimir Putin emphasizes that the Russian Federation is ready to make a significant contribution to overcoming the food crisis through the export of grain and fertilizer, subject to the lifting of politically motivated restrictions by the West," the Kremlin said in a statement following the call.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/26/ukraine-...
PRTVR said:
An insight into life on the Ukrainian front line, what struck me most was the humour, in Ukrainian but with English subtitles.
Fascinating series there, worth a watch! They certainly have great morale, seem well organised, well stocked and mostly locals. They have done plenty of damage to the "Orcs" and realise they have little professional opposition. Talk of the Russians being messy folk in their trenches and houses they have occupied is well evident. Third world for sure, morale for them must be horrendous.
Get your bulk carriers fired up, the Butcher of Mariupol says you can all go through tomorrow. 
Naval corridor for exit of foreign ships from Ukrainian ports expanded - Defense Ministry
In order to ensure safe exit of foreign ships from ports of Odessa, Nikolayev, Chernomorsk, Ochakov and Yuzhny to open sea, Russian Armed Forces introduced changes to the humanitarian corridor routeм
MOSCOW, May 26. /TASS/. The humanitarian provided for foreign ships to leave Ukrainian Black Sea ports has been corrected and now covers 139 nautical miles, with width of 3 nautical miles, Russian National Defense Control Center head Colonel General Mikhail Mizintsev said Thursday.
"In order to ensure safe exit of foreign ships from ports of Odessa, Nikolayev, Chernomorsk, Ochakov and Yuzhny to open sea, Russian Armed Forces introduced changes to the humanitarian corridor route. Starting on May 27, 2022, the naval humanitarian corridor is a route for ship navigation 139 nautical miles long and 3 nautical miles wide," he said.
Naval corridor for exit of foreign ships from Ukrainian ports expanded - Defense Ministry
In order to ensure safe exit of foreign ships from ports of Odessa, Nikolayev, Chernomorsk, Ochakov and Yuzhny to open sea, Russian Armed Forces introduced changes to the humanitarian corridor routeм
MOSCOW, May 26. /TASS/. The humanitarian provided for foreign ships to leave Ukrainian Black Sea ports has been corrected and now covers 139 nautical miles, with width of 3 nautical miles, Russian National Defense Control Center head Colonel General Mikhail Mizintsev said Thursday.
"In order to ensure safe exit of foreign ships from ports of Odessa, Nikolayev, Chernomorsk, Ochakov and Yuzhny to open sea, Russian Armed Forces introduced changes to the humanitarian corridor route. Starting on May 27, 2022, the naval humanitarian corridor is a route for ship navigation 139 nautical miles long and 3 nautical miles wide," he said.
MOTORVATOR said:
How are Belarusians 'party' to the conflict'? It's Russia alone that declared a 'not a war' special military operation.
Besides I don't think Russia uses the UN definition any more than we do?
Party to a conflict.Besides I don't think Russia uses the UN definition any more than we do?
BikeBikeBIke said:
Exit, not entrance.
Well there's 80 odd ships in there at the moment, some loaded some not, that need to come out of the way to make room for new to go in but it''s irrelevant as they aren't moving without an escort or mines removed and that's before you get into the export licences etc.Don't know if it's been mentioned yet? Only a few months ago Putin, through his fat boy puppet Lukashenko was happily using immigration in an attempt to destabilise the West. Maybe this is part of the reason he's planning on starving half of Africa?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59233244
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59233244
7mike said:
Don't know if it's been mentioned yet? Only a few months ago Putin, through his fat boy puppet Lukashenko was happily using immigration in an attempt to destabilise the West. Maybe this is part of the reason he's planning on starving half of Africa?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59233244
It’s been talked about that the purpose of some of this was to trigger a wave of immigration to destabilise western democracies. Not sure he thinks that far ahead though, but I’m sure it is in his plans now. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/59233244
US sending MLRS.
While we're at it perhaps the UK should ask Jordan nicely if they would sell their surplus Challenger tanks to Ukraine?
While we're at it perhaps the UK should ask Jordan nicely if they would sell their surplus Challenger tanks to Ukraine?
BikeBikeBIke said:
MOTORVATOR said:
In my list of things that amuse me about Russia
https://tass.com/politics/1455847
Lawmakers introduce bill to State Duma tightening penalty for mercenarism
Pure 1984.https://tass.com/politics/1455847
Lawmakers introduce bill to State Duma tightening penalty for mercenarism
vonuber said:
fblm said:
I think so. They are grinding forward every day. Everyone is laughing at the garbage reserves and armour they are bringing up but they will just be used to terrorise any civilian population left behind and free up the better stuff to move forward. As much as I enjoy the "hopinion" pieces saying this is Russia's last push, I think they all ignore the obvious contempt Russia has for even it's own troops. Depressing.
Better stuff? What better stuff?This is such a pervasive line of thought even though its been debunked by far more knowledgeable people than me.
The Russians think we want the grain to be exported for ourselves. They haven't worked out that the people who will starve aren't western people:
https://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/36737
(There's a native translator.)
https://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/36737
(There's a native translator.)
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, and there's estimates upto 1 million, have been sent through Russian "filtration camps" and into Russia as part of program of forced removal.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/26/politics/ukrain...
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/26/politics/ukrain...
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