Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2

Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2

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Porsche guy

3,465 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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sisu said:

If the Ukrainians keep hitting fuel, ammo and food supply lines this is only getting worse for the Russians.
One can only hope!

hidetheelephants

24,545 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Russia sending their finest, it's General Hilarity. rofl


vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I read somewhere that the previous chief of staff who tried to reform the army a few years ago got the boot in part because he made fitness tests for generals mandatory again.

944 Man

1,744 posts

133 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I was banned for 30 days because I shared a video of Russians being captured and loaded in to a van, no visible injuries, no mistreatment but a 30 day ban with a warning it would be permanent next time.
A couple of mods are great. Others alright and some are clearly not up to the job. No surprise, surely|?|

SlimJim16v

5,689 posts

144 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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yes

BikeBikeBIke

8,107 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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hidetheelephants said:
Russia sending their finest, it's General Hilarity. rofl

If there are pie shops in Western Ukraine I'm putting my money on a rapid advance for Russia.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,869 posts

82 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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hidetheelephants said:
Russia sending their finest, it's General Hilarity. rofl

Doubt the Ukranians will need to take him out, the exercise of putting his body armour on will probably give him a heart attack.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Another good Perun video:


Steamer

13,866 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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hidetheelephants said:
Russia sending their finest, it's General Hilarity. rofl

If ever there was a more aptly named poster in relation to the image hehe

ridds

8,230 posts

245 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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loafer123 said:
madbadger said:
FourWheelDrift said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
This is an interesting piece of news.

Kaliningrad is looking like an extremely good pressure point - far better than many of the other sanctions which have had little effect on the Kremlin. Here they instructed Lukashenko to say something, which wasn't as provocative as the Kremlin saying it themselves, but we know exactly they wanted to signal this.

It's like Canada and the confiscation of Russian assets - the US using Canada to signal what's coming if the Russians don't take heed.

Kaliningrad is so effective as it directly affects Russian citizens, which then makes the Russian regime look impotent, which they hate.



https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/154071666940...
Instead of stopping Russian trains entering Lithuania to Kaliningrad all they have to do is take up the rails for the last half mile it's in Lithuania. It's their tracks, in their country they can do anything they want with them. It's no different to the no fly zone for Russian airliners.
Couple of feet would probably do never mind half a mile.
Like this…?





https://twitter.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1541057...
It's not even the rails. Just unbolt or remove the rail pins, clips or screws from the shoes on the sleepers, on one rail, for a few feet and job done. thumbup

As in that pic, one rail is out of place, surprised it went inbound though.

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonuber said:
Another good Perun video:
Particularly salient in the context of the "Russia consistently taking territory" comments that have been doing the rounds in recent days.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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That wonderful Russian talkshow is now threatening Germany. Burn in hell, we can nuke them, Stalin made a mistake allowing it to remain, the usual. The changed rhetoric from Scholtz must be having an effect, then.
https://twitter.com/Flash43191300/status/154113299...

This is North Korean levels of ranting nonsense, utterly comical.

Frimley111R

15,688 posts

235 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Frimley111R said:
Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?
I think that the west will continue to enjoy watching Russia slowly grind its forces into a long drawn out, forced ‘victory’. It’s costing them epic hardware and Ukraine has lots of support still to arrive.

Ukraine needs some morale boosting news

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Frimley111R said:
Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?
What are you basing that on?
Russia holds less of ukraine than it did 3 months ago.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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TTmonkey said:
Frimley111R said:
Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?
I think that the west will continue to enjoy watching Russia slowly grind its forces into a long drawn out, forced ‘victory’. It’s costing them epic hardware and Ukraine has lots of support still to arrive.

Ukraine needs some morale boosting news
A factor is how long the west can continue to supply weapons for. It must be vastly expensive, and whilst now there is massive public support for it, public support long term can by no means be taken for granted.

J4CKO

41,661 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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vonuber said:
Frimley111R said:
Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?
What are you basing that on?
Russia holds less of ukraine than it did 3 months ago.
And the Ukrainians have some new toys to play with.




Cheib

23,288 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Ayahuasca said:
TTmonkey said:
Frimley111R said:
Could someone provide a short update on the war.

From what I can see it looks like Ukraine are losing and Russia slowly crawling forwards toward victory. Is there any chance of Ukraine repelling Russia and do they have enough soldiers to do so/left?
I think that the west will continue to enjoy watching Russia slowly grind its forces into a long drawn out, forced ‘victory’. It’s costing them epic hardware and Ukraine has lots of support still to arrive.

Ukraine needs some morale boosting news
A factor is how long the west can continue to supply weapons for. It must be vastly expensive, and whilst now there is massive public support for it, public support long term can by no means be taken for granted.
I think a bigger factor will be wha the political will is like for a continued conflict this winter with fuel/electricty/heating prices through the roof, possible gas rationing and some serious inflation in food prices.

I think a lot of European governments will come under massive pressure from the electorate to seek some kind of peace...the US on the other hand will probably keep arming them for years.



simo1863

1,868 posts

129 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Ayahuasca said:
A factor is how long the west can continue to supply weapons for. It must be vastly expensive, and whilst now there is massive public support for it, public support long term can by no means be taken for granted.
The vast majority of materiel is stuff that has a limited shelf life or was due to be decommissioned anyway. There are obviously stated costs for these that we're throwing on the pile but a lot may actually be cheaper used to killing Russians than being maintained here before paying to deactivate it.

The original 'who is winning?' Question is very simple question with many, complicated answers. Peruns video does a good job of explaining this but essentially it amounts to what an individual defines as winning.

Russia will never take Kyiv (which was undoubtedly its original war aim) but its going to be very difficult for Ukraine to get back to pre-2014 borders (which seems to be what they want), and if they do they'll have lost hundreds of thousands of citizens.

In terms of the situation now, the Russians move 300-500m East daily in the salient with Lysychans'k. That is not a lot and I imagine it'll peter out when they get to Lysychans'k itself.

Meanwhile the Ukranians are looking to build momentum to take back territory North/North East of Kharkiv (which has back and forthed for a few weeks) and looking to retake Kherson in the south (which I think the Russians will withdraw from within a month or two).

The Ukranians seem to be relying more and more on their territorial army whereas the Russians seem to be doing an 'operation hide behind the men of (a very loose) fighting age from the Donesk and Luhansk held territories' and using them very disposably. I don't want to throw phrases like 'human wave attacks' or 'human shields' about as its hyperbolic and I've not seen any evidence of it, but they're suffering massive casualties at the moment. You'll also see clips of them with ancient weapons like Mosin Nagants or DP-28s, and WW2 steel helmets.

Very little news online about Wagner group or the tiktok battalion (owing to rumours of both taking heavy casualties too).

isaldiri

18,624 posts

169 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Ayahuasca said:
A factor is how long the west can continue to supply weapons for. It must be vastly expensive, and whilst now there is massive public support for it, public support long term can by no means be taken for granted.
It's not just the cost of supplying military arms, substantial as that is. It's also the knock-on costs to the public with regards to energy and other commodity supplies that remain disrupted as long as the conflict drags on where it's a little less clear substantial public support to bear those costs in return for supporting Ukraine will continue to remain quite as strong as it has been....