Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has UK passport returned, MP says.

[pequod]

longblackcoat said:

pequod said:

I still wonder if there is more to this Iranian woman than we are being told?

So what are you suggesting?

Was she encouraged by previous Govt's (not necessarily ours) through her Thomson Reuters position to 'assist' the dissident factions within Iran?

There's rarely smoke without fire, and I doubt the Iran regime are interested in all Iranians (duel nationality or not) visiting their country of birth without good reason.

[longblackcoat]

pequod said:

Was she encouraged by previous Govt's (not necessarily ours) through her Thomson Reuters position to 'assist' the dissident factions within Iran?

There's rarely smoke without fire, and I doubt the Iran regime are interested in all Iranians (duel nationality or not) visiting their country of birth without good reason.

I don’t know whether she was. Do you have anything to back up your assertions?

[Johnnytheboy]

longblackcoat said:

I don’t know whether she was. Do you have anything to back up your assertions?

What assertions? All I can see are questions.

[pequod]

longblackcoat said:

pequod said:

Was she encouraged by previous Govt's (not necessarily ours) through her Thomson Reuters position to 'assist' the dissident factions within Iran?

There's rarely smoke without fire, and I doubt the Iran regime are interested in all Iranians (dual nationality or not) visiting their country of birth without good reason.

I don’t know whether she was. Do you have anything to back up your assertions?

Nope, but as I asked, is there more to this woman's background than we are being told?

A charity worker, involved in journalism, assisting young Iranian journalists, and whatever else?

[TonyToniTone]

Abdul Abulbul Amir said:

How do you know it was legally binding...have you seen it?

An international arbitration in 2008 ruled the UK owed the debt.

[Murph7355]

pequod said:

Was she encouraged by previous Govt's (not necessarily ours) through her Thomson Reuters position to 'assist' the dissident factions within Iran?

There's rarely smoke without fire, and I doubt the Iran regime are interested in all Iranians (duel nationality or not) visiting their country of birth without good reason.

What of Ashoori? And the third chap?

I suspect it needed to be a dual citizen, and ones from the UK. Timing was probably a factor.

Can't imagine there are that many of those travelling to Iran?

(Maybe there was more to it...doesn't really matter).

[longblackcoat]

pequod said:

Nope, but as I asked, is there more to this woman's background than we are being told?

A charity worker, involved in journalism, assisting young Iranian journalists, and whatever else?

Yes, you keep inferring that there’s something else. So what do you think it is?

Or are you doing that “just saying….” thing of making stuff up?

[The Mad Monk]

longblackcoat said:

Yes, you keep inferring that there’s something else. So what do you think it is?

Imply means to suggest or to say something in an indirect way.
Infer means to suppose or come to a conclusion, especially based on an indirect suggestion.

[Johnnytheboy]

Wikipedia has a bit more detail on her activities prior to her arrest.

[andyA700]

Murph7355 said:

pequod said:

Was she encouraged by previous Govt's (not necessarily ours) through her Thomson Reuters position to 'assist' the dissident factions within Iran?

There's rarely smoke without fire, and I doubt the Iran regime are interested in all Iranians (duel nationality or not) visiting their country of birth without good reason.

What of Ashoori? And the third chap?

I suspect it needed to be a dual citizen, and ones from the UK. Timing was probably a factor.

Can't imagine there are that many of those travelling to Iran?

(Maybe there was more to it...doesn't really matter).

There are tens of thousands of Iranians with dual citizenship travelling to Iran each year (my wife being just one), it is very normal for Iranians living in the UK to visit Iran, particularly at New Year.

[longblackcoat]

The Mad Monk said:

longblackcoat said:

Yes, you keep inferring that there’s something else. So what do you think it is?

Imply means to suggest or to say something in an indirect way.
Infer means to suppose or come to a conclusion, especially based on an indirect suggestion.

Thanks for making my point for me.

Pequod is indeed inferring - he's seemingly coming to conclusions based on scant information which may or may not have any value. It might be of benefit to all of us for him to share his information with us.

[pequod]

longblackcoat said:

Thanks for making my point for me.

Pequod is indeed inferring - he's seemingly coming to conclusions based on scant information which may or may not have any value. It might be of benefit to all of us for him to share his information with us.

I'm not inferring anything, yet I find it worthwhile to ask questions in this particular case.

Can you please explain why she was granted diplomatic protection?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-secreta...

[bitchstewie]

You've literally linked to an article that explains exactly why.

"Affording diplomatic protection in Nazanin’s case represents formal recognition by the British Government that her treatment fails to meet Iran’s obligations under International law and elevates it to a formal State to State issue."

[pequod]

bhstewie said:

You've literally linked to an article that explains exactly why.

"Affording diplomatic protection in Nazanin’s case represents formal recognition by the British Government that her treatment fails to meet Iran’s obligations under International law and elevates it to a formal State to State issue."

Does the British Govt do that for everyone else, when they are incarcerated in a prison of their 'home' nation abroad?

[bitchstewie]

Wouldn't have a clue but they've laid out the reasons that they did.

[longblackcoat]

pequod said:

bhstewie said:

You've literally linked to an article that explains exactly why.

"Affording diplomatic protection in Nazanin’s case represents formal recognition by the British Government that her treatment fails to meet Iran’s obligations under International law and elevates it to a formal State to State issue."

Does the British Govt do that for everyone else, when they are incarcerated in a prison of their 'home' nation abroad?

Why not do some research of your own rather than expecting others to do it?

[pequod]

bhstewie said:

Wouldn't have a clue but they've laid out their reasons that they did.

Did they, or was it simply subterfuge and covering their backsides? I don't wish to open a bag/tin of worms but I do find this particular case isn't as it seems and reported?

Many on here have criticised this woman for her apparent ungrateful attitude (including me) but I do wonder if there is more to this which explains why she is angry and full of hatred towards the British Govt, not just the incumbent one?

[Abdul Abulbul Amir]

Easy target once the yanks had paid up in 2016 for the release of their citizens. NZR only got her UK citizenship three years before her arrest.

[bitchstewie]

pequod said:

Did they, or was it simply subterfuge and covering their backsides? I don't wish to open a bag/tin of worms but I do find this particular case isn't as it seems and reported?

Many on here have criticised this woman for her apparent ungrateful attitude (including me) but I do wonder if there is more to this which explains why she is angry and full of hatred towards the British Govt, not just the incumbent one?

You said "I'm not inferring anything" and asked why she was granted diplomatic protection.

There's a page on the Government website that literally says why.

You think there's more to it than that because how dare she be ungrateful but you're not inferring anything.

Bit weird.

[pequod]

bhstewie said:

pequod said:

Did they, or was it simply subterfuge and covering their backsides? I don't wish to open a bag/tin of worms but I do find this particular case isn't as it seems and reported?

Many on here have criticised this woman for her apparent ungrateful attitude (including me) but I do wonder if there is more to this which explains why she is angry and full of hatred towards the British Govt, not just the incumbent one?

You said "I'm not inferring anything" and asked why she was granted diplomatic protection.

There's a page on the Government website that literally says why.

You think there's more to it than that because how dare she be ungrateful but you're not inferring anything.

Bit weird.

Asking a question why she was granted diplomatic protection is not inferring anything. How many others have been granted similar?

What part don't you understand?