UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda
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Byker28i said:
The latest stats from the ONS, suggest we need immigrants.
Nearly half (47.5%) of specialist doctors, such as oncologists and cardiologists, were born outside the UK.
About how many British born vs immigrants are in work, putting paid to that claim they just come here for benefits
Of people aged 16+ in England and Wales, 55.9% of those born in the UK were in employment. This compares with
?? 70.8% of those born in the EU
?? 58.0% among those born in non-EU countries
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...
Those stats must all be lies - all immigrants are scroungers who just want our NHS and housing benefits, in between being criminal gangs and terrorists. Nearly half (47.5%) of specialist doctors, such as oncologists and cardiologists, were born outside the UK.
About how many British born vs immigrants are in work, putting paid to that claim they just come here for benefits
Of people aged 16+ in England and Wales, 55.9% of those born in the UK were in employment. This compares with
?? 70.8% of those born in the EU
?? 58.0% among those born in non-EU countries
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...
blueg33 said:
Byker28i said:
The latest stats from the ONS, suggest we need immigrants.
Nearly half (47.5%) of specialist doctors, such as oncologists and cardiologists, were born outside the UK.
About how many British born vs immigrants are in work, putting paid to that claim they just come here for benefits
Of people aged 16+ in England and Wales, 55.9% of those born in the UK were in employment. This compares with
?? 70.8% of those born in the EU
?? 58.0% among those born in non-EU countries
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...
Those stats must all be lies - all immigrants are scroungers who just want our NHS and housing benefits, in between being criminal gangs and terrorists. Nearly half (47.5%) of specialist doctors, such as oncologists and cardiologists, were born outside the UK.
About how many British born vs immigrants are in work, putting paid to that claim they just come here for benefits
Of people aged 16+ in England and Wales, 55.9% of those born in the UK were in employment. This compares with
?? 70.8% of those born in the EU
?? 58.0% among those born in non-EU countries
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...
The Visa system operates to allow immigrants to work here.
I don't think anyone has an issue with this, do they?
Vasco said:
I'm sure we are confusing legal vs illegal immigrants.
Yes. Totally disingenuously.There are legal migrants, illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
But it suits some to lump them all together.
They clearly don’t give a toss about the real asylum seekers.
If they did, they would call out those who steal our resources from them.
hstewie said:
swisstoni said:
Vasco said:
I'm sure we are confusing legal vs illegal immigrants.
Yes. Totally disingenuously.There are legal migrants, illegal migrants and asylum seekers.
But it suits some to lump them all together.
They clearly don’t give a toss about the real asylum seekers.
If they did, they would call out those who steal our resources from them.
ZedLeg said:
Well he’s talking about illegal immigrants being conflated with “real” asylum seekers.
If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
No, he isn't.If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
He was talking about separating illegal immigrants from legal ones and asylum seekers, specifically in response to someone noting that a large proportion of doctors are immigrants - they will fall into the "legal immigrants" camp and there are clear pathways for them to apply to be here.
I agree that it would be helpful to create legal pathways for asylum seekers. Nobody's answered before, but I wonder what they are for other nations. And as noted before, I don't think this is something a single country can do solo, for fairly obvious unintended consequences.
This topic does seem to end up in people trying to polarise things. I do not think anyone on this thread has noted asylum seekers don't need help and that the UK shouldn't be part of that help. Equally I'm sure everyone agrees that the help needs to be prioritised to those most in need, and that determining that on current methods of entry is probably unwise.
Practical solutions to those challenges seem thin on the ground.
ZedLeg said:
Well he’s talking about illegal immigrants being conflated with “real” asylum seekers.
If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
Not this again...If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
UK Gov. said:
In 2021 (the latest year for which a full year of data is available), the UK resettled almost 1,600 individuals, ranking seventh globally for resettlement in that period. Between 2016 and September 2022, the UK has resettled over 26,000 individuals – the third highest number in the world (after the United States and Canada) and more than any other European country.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigrati...Murph7355 said:
Practical solutions to those challenges seem thin on the ground.
Should we be doing things that actually make the problem worse though? Undeported illegal migrants ‘to cost UK £9bn over three years’
southendpier said:
https://www.gov.uk/browse/visas-immigration
The Visa system operates to allow immigrants to work here.
I don't think anyone has an issue with this, do they?
Not at all, The Visa system operates to allow immigrants to work here.
I don't think anyone has an issue with this, do they?
We have a load of staff on visas, some sponsored and some HK.
I wouldn't call them asylum seekers.
Vanden Saab said:
ZedLeg said:
Well he’s talking about illegal immigrants being conflated with “real” asylum seekers.
If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
Not this again...If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
UK Gov. said:
In 2021 (the latest year for which a full year of data is available), the UK resettled almost 1,600 individuals, ranking seventh globally for resettlement in that period. Between 2016 and September 2022, the UK has resettled over 26,000 individuals – the third highest number in the world (after the United States and Canada) and more than any other European country.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigrati...ZedLeg said:
Vanden Saab said:
ZedLeg said:
Well he’s talking about illegal immigrants being conflated with “real” asylum seekers.
If there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
kIf there’s no legal path to get here, then there’s no way to tell whether someone who comes illegally is in need of asylum.
Not this again...
UK Gov. said:
In 2021 (the latest year for which a full year of data is available), the UK resettled almost 1,600 individuals, ranking seventh globally for resettlement in that period. Between 2016 and September 2022, the UK has resettled over 26,000 individuals – the third highest number in the world (after the United States and Canada) and more than any other European country.
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