UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda
Discussion
JagLover said:
Rwanda is one of Africa's success stories in terms of economic growth and decent governance. It isn't a true democracy of course but the Tutsi minority are rather worried about what might happen if it were.
Think GDP was growing at around 7% a year for a decade before the pandemic came along.
"One of the safest countries in the world", Boris has just said. In principle, I can see the logic of this plan, and there has to be a solution other than what's been tried to date. And we cannot have an open door policy.Think GDP was growing at around 7% a year for a decade before the pandemic came along.
However, I have zero faith in the ability of this government to actually deliver this, or any other, plan. I suspect it's something to appease the electorate; all show and no go, as it were.
I am pleased something is being done, I just hope they follow through with it.
I am also pleased to see the military will be protecting the area around Dover - that should have happened years ago.
The fact someone can "rubber dinghy rapids" it over from France to the UK is frankly mental.
I am also pleased to see the military will be protecting the area around Dover - that should have happened years ago.
The fact someone can "rubber dinghy rapids" it over from France to the UK is frankly mental.
JeffreyD said:
frisbee said:
£120 million, up to 500 people a year, £250k each.
500?Just need to buddy up with someone on the dingy and claim persecution for homosexuality...
JeffreyD said:
JagLover said:
Distraction for the press 
The big announcement is a trial scheme apparently. Think Bojo will need to do rather better than that to save his miserable skin.
Jesus wept.The big announcement is a trial scheme apparently. Think Bojo will need to do rather better than that to save his miserable skin.
It's absolutely transparent isn't it?
500 people. What an absolute shower of s
t this lot are.Vanden Saab said:
Surely once the message gets through that they might or will end up in Rwanda they will decide that the EU is a better place to live and not come here in the first place...
Not if anyone can actually do the maths, no.500 people as part of a trial - an immaterial amount.
most people are successful in their applications and will end up here anyway.
so a small % of an immaterial amount of people could end up in Rwanda
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a higher chance of dying en-route. Or in their homeland.
Still I bet you absolutely f
king love it don't you?Countdown said:
frisbee said:
Pit Pony said:
I don't know what to say.
Why are we treating people so badly ?
It’s a vote winner!Why are we treating people so badly ?
It’ll be a colossal waste of money.
I was wondering what story would be used to deflect from Partygate when it kicked off again.
However it's a 100% votewinner for a lot of Tories so win-win for BoJo (regardless of it being a colossal and ineffective waste of public money)
My octagenarian dad is a lifelong Tory voter, and towards the right of the party, He is appalled by this, thinks it is a shameful way for a "once great country" to behave, and will not be voting for them again until the current lot are all out.
JeffreyD said:
Vanden Saab said:
Surely once the message gets through that they might or will end up in Rwanda they will decide that the EU is a better place to live and not come here in the first place...
Not if anyone can actually do the maths, no.500 people as part of a trial - an immaterial amount.
most people are successful in their applications and will end up here anyway.
so a small % of an immaterial amount of people could end up in Rwanda
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a higher chance of dying en-route. Or in their homeland.
Still I bet you absolutely f
king love it don't you?Vanden Saab said:
It is a good start, until you can explain where we put the 80 million 'refugees' you want to welcome to our already overcrowded Island then finding a way to stop them coming in the first place will remain the best solution.
you don't seriously think this is a serious effort to resolve the refugee situation do you?You are a deeply cynical individual - why does that attitude change now?
psgcarey said:
Don't be so sure about it being a vote winner.
My octagenarian dad is a lifelong Tory voter, and towards the right of the party, He is appalled by this, thinks it is a shameful way for a "once great country" to behave, and will not be voting for them again until the current lot are all out.
There will always be outliers either way but the polls are very clear on this issue, particularly when it comes to Tory voters. 77% of Tory voters think the government is handling migrant boats issue badly. My octagenarian dad is a lifelong Tory voter, and towards the right of the party, He is appalled by this, thinks it is a shameful way for a "once great country" to behave, and will not be voting for them again until the current lot are all out.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...
Vanden Saab said:
It is a good start, until you can explain where we put the 80 million 'refugees' you want to welcome to our already overcrowded Island then finding a way to stop them coming in the first place will remain the best solution.
500 of them can be sent to Rwanda for sureJagLover said:
There will always be outliers either way but the polls are very clear on this issue, particularly when it comes to Tory voters. 77% of Tory voters think the government is handling migrant boats issue badly.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...
My dad is not an outlier in his age group/demographic. All his friends think very similarly.https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-repo...
He is also one of the 77% that think this Govt. is handling the situation badly. Or very badly in his case. He does not, however, see this as an acceptable solution. For him, and probably many of his generation, this is not the way this country should behave.
I also note that the survey you quoted also asks "Sending people who apply for asylum in the United Kingdom to another country while their application is processed" with a 47% approval rating.
Electro1980 said:
GranpaB said:
Electro1980 said:
GranpaB said:
It is very sad that the UK is seen as an easy target.
It’s not.Nice that you support immigrants putting their lives at risk trying to cross the water from France, and the lining of the pockets of people smugglers.
Edited by GranpaB on Thursday 14th April 08:55
Rick1.8t said:
Bo_apex said:
SmoothCriminal said:
What's so dangerous in France that they can't stay there? Oh yes I imagine the French don't put them up in hotels and pay for domino's pizza.
And the blatant racism that prevails in France
psgcarey said:
My dad is not an outlier in his age group/demographic. All his friends think very similarly.
He is also one of the 77% that think this Govt. is handling the situation badly. Or very badly in his case. He does not, however, see this as an acceptable solution. For him, and probably many of his generation, this is not the way this country should behave.
I also note that the survey you quoted also asks "Sending people who apply for asylum in the United Kingdom to another country while their application is processed" with a 47% approval rating.
I would suspect that is because it is seen as a "softer" option. You will note that 61% want to simply turn the boats back and 68% want to stop any asylum applications from those coming from a safe country, such as France. He is also one of the 77% that think this Govt. is handling the situation badly. Or very badly in his case. He does not, however, see this as an acceptable solution. For him, and probably many of his generation, this is not the way this country should behave.
I also note that the survey you quoted also asks "Sending people who apply for asylum in the United Kingdom to another country while their application is processed" with a 47% approval rating.
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