UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda
Discussion
julianm said:
Another 500 odd yesterday - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51wqg3x8wno
That earned the people smugglers £6.75 million (500 x av £13,500 smuggling fees).Evanivitch said:
blueg33 said:
The old “they are criminals “ trope. Debunked so many times I can’t believe you thought it was worth mentioning!
I guess the question is how many end up involved in petty crime, illegally working and debt to criminals because of the delays in the processing and inability to work/education whilst they wait.Admitted working as an illegal driver ( via a friend with a firm) as waiting for asylum claim.
He was from Iran and was a doctor.
Now, I don’t know how Iranian doctor training rates against UK standards but surely he could have been given a chance to use skills in NHS, as a nurse or something?
Instead of receiving some pitiful benefits and working illegally.
jdw100 said:
Evanivitch said:
blueg33 said:
The old “they are criminals “ trope. Debunked so many times I can’t believe you thought it was worth mentioning!
I guess the question is how many end up involved in petty crime, illegally working and debt to criminals because of the delays in the processing and inability to work/education whilst they wait.Admitted working as an illegal driver ( via a friend with a firm) as waiting for asylum claim.
He was from Iran and was a doctor.
Now, I don’t know how Iranian doctor training rates against UK standards but surely he could have been given a chance to use skills in NHS, as a nurse or something?
Instead of receiving some pitiful benefits and working illegally.
I would prefer the former.
shed driver said:
£165,000 to sign a document. James Cleverly charters a private jet for the day to take himself, civil servants, his photographer and a BBC film crew to Kigali to sign the treaty back in December.
How many claims could be processed for that?
SD.
What, no Docusign in Rwanda?How many claims could be processed for that?
SD.
Rufus Stone said:
shed driver said:
£165,000 to sign a document. James Cleverly charters a private jet for the day to take himself, civil servants, his photographer and a BBC film crew to Kigali to sign the treaty back in December.
How many claims could be processed for that?
SD.
What, no Docusign in Rwanda?How many claims could be processed for that?
SD.
julian987R said:
julianm said:
Another 500 odd yesterday - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51wqg3x8wno
That earned the people smugglers £6.75 million (500 x av £13,500 smuggling fees).Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
paulw123 said:
How far from France do these small boats have to get before they get picked up by the larger ones and brought into Dover?
Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
I seem to recall Sky News a while back filming the RNLI picking up illegals in French waters and bringing them back to the UK.Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
Shameful.
paulw123 said:
How far from France do these small boats have to get before they get picked up by the larger ones and brought into Dover?
Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
Don't be making sensible suggestions, this thread is for talking about stupid, performatively doomed ideas. Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
In theory the "border" is exactly half way across the channel. Of course both coasts are kind of wiggly and the water moves around, so I'd imagine "somewhere near the middle" would do the job. I'm fairly sure people on boats don't normally let imaginary lines stop them from preventing people drowning.
fly by wire said:
paulw123 said:
How far from France do these small boats have to get before they get picked up by the larger ones and brought into Dover?
Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
I seem to recall Sky News a while back filming the RNLI picking up illegals in French waters and bringing them back to the UK.Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
Shameful.
Of course some people may make their donations conditional on the lifeboat captains ceding operational decisions to random knobs on the Internet instead of for example going to the nearest port where they can safely offload a bunch of people, or the safe port that gets them operational again soonest. Perhaps you'd have them run the lifeboat up the nearest French beach and ask the migrants nicely for a push back into the sea as they get off.
What is it that makes people so arrogant that they think their views should take precedence over actual f
king lifeboat captains? Genuine question, please answer it as well as you can. E63eeeeee... said:
What's shameful about saving people from drowning? That's literally what people donate to the RNLI for.
Of course some people may make their donations conditional on the lifeboat captains ceding operational decisions to random knobs on the Internet instead of for example going to the nearest port where they can safely offload a bunch of people, or the safe port that gets them operational again soonest. Perhaps you'd have them run the lifeboat up the nearest French beach and ask the migrants nicely for a push back into the sea as they get off.
What is it that makes people so arrogant that they think their views should take precedence over actual fking lifeboat captains? Genuine question, please answer it as well as you can.
The point is that the RNLI are bringing undocumented people from French Territorial Waters into the UK, the fact that they may or may not require rescue is down to the French.Of course some people may make their donations conditional on the lifeboat captains ceding operational decisions to random knobs on the Internet instead of for example going to the nearest port where they can safely offload a bunch of people, or the safe port that gets them operational again soonest. Perhaps you'd have them run the lifeboat up the nearest French beach and ask the migrants nicely for a push back into the sea as they get off.
What is it that makes people so arrogant that they think their views should take precedence over actual f
king lifeboat captains? Genuine question, please answer it as well as you can. Is this so difficult to understand?
fly by wire said:
paulw123 said:
How far from France do these small boats have to get before they get picked up by the larger ones and brought into Dover?
Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
I seem to recall Sky News a while back filming the RNLI picking up illegals in French waters and bringing them back to the UK.Surely setting up a processing centre in France run by the UK would be a sensible place to return the boats occupants to then process their claims.
Shameful.
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